I know his topic has been beat to death but I want to try add another dimension or find something out. What is the reason girls are so flaky and I don't mean dates just in general in their messages. What's the point of them going through the effort to make their profiles etc. Surely validation can't be the only reason.

Even more so with tinder, they've actually matched someone they mutually like but are still flaky. I agree like most guys on here online game should only be used as a top for real game but has always baffled me the amount of people I've messaged and the meets I've had.

Why do girls go on the hear sites, like what's their angle. Just to get an insight on how men and women view online gaming differently is basicslly what I want to know.

Girls get flooded with messages. Even if you match on apps like tinder, you may be 1 of 100. They are going to respond to the guys that appeal most out of that group.

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Even average looking girls on Tinder get hundreds of matches.

They don't try because they don't need to try.

Men do the work. Unfortunately that's usually how it is online.

Remember that when you're messaging new matches - you're competing with 50 other guys at the same time likely. IE: don't just say "hi there"

Jack beat me to it.

Aha I'm past those kinda mistakes however. Was just genuinely interested as to why they even bother. I mean they get guys coming up to them all the time, why waste their time with online stuff.

It is because they are still single. If the random guys approaching them on the street aren't doing it for them, why not increase their options?

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most girls, unless they are in a logistically advantageous environment (like college or gym rats), dont have desirable guys coming up to them all the time. And many girls aren't going to have the same open attitude to guys approaching them on the street as they would online or through or a friend.

As other have mentioned Tinder is tough because girls are overwhelmed by guys of all different levels of game bombarding them, you need to develop some solid online techniques to stand out.

What Charles and Jack said.

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Just so bizarre, this sounds petit as I type but never had this before. Matched on tinder, I tried skipping the pointless ping-pong messages that can go on for ever until you ask for the date and they blank it. So I've been trying to be more direct which weeded the girls out quicker. Think good online game is about been direct but funny at the same time.

got kind of side tracked about the petit bit but one girl followed me on snapchat as soon as I gave her the number as soon as I said are you free next Tuesday completely blanked my messages but kept looking st my snap chat stories. I may post the pictures of convo soon.

Go outside.

I might get robbed

It's more difficult to build a quality connection online than it is in real life. Not impossible, but certainly more difficult. Feelings will fade much more quickly, leads will be less solid, and as everyone else has said, women have significantly more guys approaching them.

Totally agree, this leads me to next question both online/offline. When i've been talking to a girl and things haven't worked out, i often wonder what is the other guy did/doing differently that is working for him because i know for a fact even though they may not be with anyone doesn't mean there getting a lot of dick, so what is separating the two of us.

So do what I did - create a Tinder account for a girl and watch the messages (and obscene amount of unsolicited dick pics --- as openers).

Was really one of the better moves I made in terms of understanding what works and what doesn't.

I have contemplated this many a time but always thought it weird