Say you have a good casual date with someone, good kino and lots of positive signs, lots of holding hands, talking into her ear, but no kiss close yet. but insider info says she's happy and very interested….

Is it ok to send any sweet kind of texts, was thinking of using a line that worked well on the chick from 3 weeks ago, something along the lines of me thinking about how cute she looked while at work. last girl really liked that one, but things havent worked out with her soo…lol

basically I'm stuck on business for the next 4-5 days and busy due to thxgiving, and have no way of getting another date so I'm stuck to text. I've only sent a DHV post showing the cool place I'm at on business which she responded well too…but i want to put something sweet out there? i know the usual PUA rule is that texting anything very emotional is not good until AFTER you close, up until close its mostly supposed to be about just setting dates. what the heck do i do for 4-5 days!!!

quick background because it might affect things, she is NOT american. she is much different than many of the american whores ive sexted/dated in the past lol. this past few months ive talked to strippers, table girls, and even escorts lmao, (some are actually very good people and are great wings). previous relationships ive been able to get away with sexting before closing, but i dont get the same sense here so NO obscene texts.

friends all describe her as innocent, shes very shy but has been comfortable enogh to send me pics of her lying in bed and other cutesy stuff which i usually compliment.


anyways as i was typing this she just texted me asking whats up...lmao......i had a long stressful day my anxiety is through the roof.

Da fuck?

Of-course you don't text any "sweet" lines. You've been on a date and you haven't even at least kissed her. Why in the world would you text something sweet?
It's not a "PUA Rule", it's a common sense rule. You don't give people more than they've earned, because doing so would be a sign of neediness.

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well i went with a sweet line and was rewarded with a "awww so sweet *heart eye emojis* and a picture of her lying in bed (clothes on lol) that turned me into the scene from the mask when he first sees cameron diaz.

so either maybe im a pussy and if i went hardcore PUA i would have gotten no clothes in the text..LOL.

but i think at end of day you just have to go with what you are feeling is best for each girl. theres girls ive sexted about going down on all night which ended with nude pics and F closes, but my gut tells me to not take that approach here.


i was honestly surprised by the pic because she hasnt sent anything like that before, her other pics were more casual this was definately more intimate, lights dimmed and full view of her upper body.....it definately set a little tension for next meet up. i made sure to not respond too thirsty, kind of casual said it looked comfy and cant wait to see you again to which she replied "yes!! and more smiley heart faces..."

insider info (my good homegirl is her new friend) already says that she is attracted and interested in me.


but yeah i cant see her for 3 more days so i have to tread carefully, need to keep up this tension until next meet and then its time to close. definately no needy "what are you doing" every 3 hour texts.



eddie - i like the idea about the call however i feel like id rather just talk to her in person? i dont wanna waste any good lines and then just hang up the phone, i need to save them for next meet when the impact will be greater and more room for reward.

but hey feel free to share some of that 30 minute phone technique!!

so now im semi curious about this...what kind of call are we talking about. are you bringing up anything sexual? i thought that was a no-no until actual close? what is your approach on getting them anxious to meet you on the next time. i want to go in for quick kino escalation fast so that the ice is broken early, no more pussyfootin around, RC had a great post in another thread that broke it down great.


just wondering how to keep tension alive, because i woke up this morning myself kind of feeling like i lost a little interest in her. i mean havent seen her in 3-4 days, even with the good text up until yesterday i feel like its slippin away a bit and need to re-engage and spark some kind of emotion.

thxgiving kind of threw everything off a bit, everyones out doing their own thing with family and i dont want to text about food.

I'm not a big fan of calling unless you have some solid conversational threads lined up. Better in my opinion to send her 1 or 2 ping texts over this 4-5 day period, mentioning something you have done or about to do to keep you on her mind. Don't go overboard on the "DHV" texts, those sound a little like qualifying to me. And don't send any neediness texts like i miss you, etc until you've f closed. When the 4-5 days are up, get her out and escalate hard.

yea thats why i was wondering what exactly hes claiming to say in 30 minutes to get them worked up, but i feel like its a waste of possible material IRL...

anyways...im trying to think of a good re-engage text because we both froze eachother out for most of thxgiving. i dont want to really mention anything like "how was your thxgiving" aka boring.....

i was thinking more along the lines of "hey im back in town saturday lets see eachother"

but i am semi curious of whats shes up to....she hits me with alot of "how was your day, what are you up to" stuff that usually annoys me if its a girl i dont like, but i dont mind when she says it so maybe its OK to ping her with something like that.

i was also thinkin of something like "guess where im at!?!" then answer with "on my way to LA to see ya silly"

or something like that. "i might drop by this place called apex towers i heard theres someone who wants to see me there lol" (aka her place)

she doesnt really live at apex lol if anyone is familiar with DTLA...

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I never knew calling a woman was such a big deal. And what do you mean by wasting lines? Theres no way to predict a conversation so extensively that you would have to waste "lines". And why are you saving lines anyway? Throw them shits out and continue to make new ones.

If you're game is in a can you'll be done once its opened.

Theres trillions of things to talk about, i can never run out of topics. New things happen in the world every day and I always have fresh ideas on my mind. Come on guys

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Wrote a response but eddie's was better. Yeah there are so many things to talk about. Don't plan it or think of it as material. Think of it like this...if you dont enjoy talking to her, why do you want to date her? To fuck her because she's hot but boring? If thats the case, fine but then she knows all you want is sex and a hot face and body is all she has to bring. Actually pursue women you have a good time with, in person and over the phone.

thats why i was wondering exactly what eddie was talking about...i thought he was insinuating that he would be talking some sexual game to get her worked up and ready for the lay. but then the last post was about talking about any topics, more casual? also we already had a very good convo during our date about all that stuff, backgrounds, interests, etc...now its time to escalate into something else, id be too tempted to start sexual pr physical dialouge. i dont want to have another long convo about any other stuff until AFTER close lol....plenty of time for that later.

my main issue with phone game right now is....lets say she gets all worked up etc. she still has 12-24 hours to cool down so to speak. otherwise i string her along and get her worked up in person and then can close easier.

also not sure if a call is good after a 24 hour freezeout? need to re-engage with a text somehow before i think about calling.

lol i know i know...just saying that im not talking to your typical LA hollywood club girl whos out in her LBD every weekend showing off her ass. i have homegirls who will go on twitter and brag about the good D they just got, and others who will watch porn on their phone while out to dinner with friends. this girl is a nerd and barely has any social media prescence she comes from a very sheltered background in a foreign country. when our circle went out last week she was very shy and shot down several attempts from the guys to go dance. but when i grabbed her hands she came and danced with me.

just trying to give an idea of the background here, i know at the end of the day its all wet down there lol....

damn my work situation, i should be seeing her tonight in person but got delayed until the weekend....so might have to settle for that call like eddie says.

fwiw, after freezeout i re-engaged pretty simply, just said hi whats up in her native language lol. i caught her at a good time (possibly drunk) because i got a flurry of responses and had her begging for me to come back to town. then this morning she sent me another cute little selfie of her in her bed...pretty brave of her considering she had no makeup and was hungover. anyways im seeing her tonight and going quick kino/escalation here no pussyfootin around. i had a good week, ate healthy and worked out a bunch got my body lookin and feelin good, even got a tan the other day...time to enjoy the weekend!