So, this girl I occasionally fuck/get bj's from hunted me down at a bar the last month. I played hard to get and ignored her as I had a gf, plus I know that's what she responds to. The last time we hooked up was 5 months previous. When we hooked up then, she asked me to commit to her and hinted at having kids. she was crying and often gets like this with me...confessions of love, etc.

Needless to say, we both flaked. I literally drove past her house on the next date and did not stop.

So this time she starts writing shit in my notebook when I'm not looking. Finally we talk, and agree it's good to be "cool with each other" because we never had that before, and "whatever happens, happens". She lives with a boyfriend, which makes things even weirder. She's also an alpha, and literally responds with huge, welcoming eyes when you call her out on disrespect. I've heard from her friends that she's "terrified of me, loves me, can't get over me, and doesn't know what to do".


So, after icing her for a week, I get this at 11 pm Saturday:

"Hey, this is me hitting you up when I'm drunk."

I respond 20 minutes later:

"Hey this is me returning your text."

Her 4 minutes later:

"Fuck."

Me four minutes later:

"I used that word often today".

That was the last I heard of her. I was with another girl that night (a 9 on any planet) so I didn't really care. But this girl intrigues me otherwise I wouldn't be posting here.

I do very well in person, and shoot myself in the nuts via text. How would you play this one without being needy?

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She was asking you to fuck.

There's no needy. It's yes or no.

So...when I responded with "Hey this is me returning your text. " rather than "okay" or "yes", she assumed I was saying no, and that I had other plans. Thus the "fuck".

She knows I'm seeing this other girl (she hates her, but if I got them in a party SPAM I think they'd hit it off).

Either way, this girl does not respond to being chased. She loves to do the chasing until a guy starts blowing up her phone and getting needy. She has dozens of dudes texting her (she's a lingerie model/bartender).If I hit her up tonight, I'll upset the balance here.

Thanks for your input, Charles.

The other, unsavory scenario is that after she texted me, she texted another dude during my 20 minute response delay (or went home with another dude at the bar), thus the "fuck" and lack of response later. It's possible.

If so, hit up drunk texts fast. I let this one slide for 20 because I don't want her thinking I'm at her beck and call.

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She was drunk. She didn't do much assuming. Not efficiently anyway.

Here's how you should've handled it:

"Hey, this is me hitting you up when I'm drunk."

I respond 20 minutes later:

"Hey this is me returning your text."

Her 4 minutes later:

"Fuck."

Me four minutes later:

"Now?"

After that everything would've been smooth sailing.
Well, you could've been at her back. If you know what I mean. But you decided to play stupid "hard to get" gamey games instead.

People live on their smartphones nowadays. If you are not doing anything at that particular moment, for the love of god, text back.
Just be normal.

PS:Read my texting guide. It goes deeper into this.

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Thanks R.C., and excellent texting guide.

I have no issues with other women. I'm natural and seem to know intuitively what to do...this one baffles me. We have this weird, intense history and unspoken bond that just doesn't seem to go away with time. I don't get it.

How would you proceed going forward? Wait for her to hit me up again, text her something funny, or show up at the bar after a good work out?

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Personally I wouldn't stress so much over her.

However, if you have a possibility of meeting her in person, always do that.

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She's a bartender at a place i frequent. That's how we met. She tried to take me home a couple weeks ago but i wanted to watch the NLCS instead (terrible, I know). But...I did get the drunk text after a week of not showing up there.

I date a lot. Currently seeing a 9.5 on a regular basis. I wouldn't mind living with her. This girl we're talking about is also a 9.5. I wouldn't mind if things work out with her, either.

They both have the attributes I prefer: talllish, thin, huge alien eyes, great bone structure, long feminine hair and intelligence. I've done a lot of "weeding" to get to them, and keep them in my life on some kind of basis.

I have two-itis right now. Nothing else is doing it for me unless I move out of town. Don't get me wrong, i still hang with other girls. It's just that these two are the ones that really do it for me.

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Great thread, R.C's advice is on point.

I fail to see a problem. You are banging two 9.5's

This is how it's supposed to work.

Your giving them exactly what they want. - To chase.

Although many talk about women's instincts and drives as if they’re the same thing, there is a subtle difference.

Drives are strong, compelling, almost irresistible urges that spur a them into performing a particular action. Such as the drive to eat (food drive) or the drive to reproduce (sex drive).

Instincts are their natural abilities they are born with that allow it to perform a task without having had to learn how. Such as the instinct to chase, or give shit tests.

Their drive is to fuck, their instinct tells them to chase to satisfy that drive.



Keep the rotation going. by the distance you toss the ball for each girl.

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Thanks, man.

Grrrr..the other girl I've been seeing (not the bartender) hasn't texted me in three days after we hooked up (she spent the night Sunday night...actually invited herself over).

I know she's fucking with me on purpose. Another alpha game player.

I like Coach Corey Wayne's saying of "The Illusion of Action". I think the best play with these two girls right now is exactly that...nothing.

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Being that you were with another chick you played it the only way you knew how. I honestly would of ignored it and contacted her on my own time being that there was no way for me to respond to what she wanted at the time.

Check this out when you get a moment: pua-lounge/topic190620.html

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Clarification? Thanks.

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Binary. There's only 0 or 1. Either you do it, or you don't.

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Thanks.

Even weirder, the girl I spent the weekend with (when the bartender texted for a hookup) has not texted me since last Monday morning, which is fucked up. I know she was out of town for most of that, but fuck. She said she was afraid of "what came next", that she might be in love with me the morning she left. It makes no sense at all. Either I did something to piss her off that morning, and she's just done with me, or I'm being iced. I sent her a text on Wednesday asking how her court date was, but got no reply.

I know she has an ex in that part of the state she may not be entirely over. Also lots of family.

This chick literally invited herself over to my place three nights in a row, showing up in my driveway at 2am on two nights saying "how can I go for it if you're never home".

My advice: Do not fall for two lingerie models at the same time. I don't give a flying rats ass about any other women. These two however...

Trust me, I've tried to bang them out of my mind with other girls. They just have all the attributes I prefer...including quirks that stick with you.

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It's called onitis.

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Your acting like this is an outbreak of herpes you picked up, like it's something that 'happened' to you.

You can only find temporary relief, not a cure. As if it were out of your control.
Assuming she has a cock in her as soon as you can't see her, is a GIANT red flag for oneitis.

But it's NOT out of your control. You chose it, this is the feeling that this/these particular woman are actually special. This is just an illusion; they are the same as the other three or so billion.

The reason "Go fuck ten other women" the most commonly prescribed SPAM for this "STD" is not working for you, is YOU choose for it NOT to work.

Bro; In other words, get over yourself and your obsession with these girls, because it's just an illusion. And when you get rejected, don't be depressed. Because there's really not much to worry about, it's just a glistening pool of water in a far off desert.

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