I was wondering if people had good ways to ask for the number (timingwise and how). I was also wondering if you let the girl type her number into your phone, or do you get the number verbally?

Your mindset is focused on the end goal to obtain the number.

When you're doing well with a girl, often the girl will suggest to stay in touch. But a default way for me is to simply suggest "let's do this again, How about a drink sometime?"

You really should aim for the sex, then the number will come easier. "Aim for the moon and you will get the stars" and all that clichè shite.

These days I literally don't even ask the number despite the fact that I know I would get it if I asked. I can't be arsed trying to persuade flakey girls to go out with me. I know when girls are interested or not interested... but for a noob, I would agree with the ABC mentality (always be closing) no matter what at the 1st stage.

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Don't use gimmicky routines, you'll come off weird.

Have a look at my guide. It covers the getting her number part. That's really all there is to it.

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Ok, these are good points. But what about times when you actually have to end the interaction?

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What if you don't drink? And do you hand her the phone or do you just ask verbally?

No difference whether you are sober or drunk...it's still the same and you are getting annoying.

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Timing wise? No set time I just ask when it makes sense to, 99% of the time that is when we are saying goodbye/cya later.

I usually give the girl my number, and almost always they call or text me right then. If not I might ask them to give me a call, rarely though. If they don't want to shoot me a text or call me the next time I failed somewhere along the line, or else the moon fell on her or some shit. If you set up the next meet up (hey me and some friends are doing [this] next saturday, or, lets get coffee soon) then you could ask for her number more naturally but even then I just would say ("shoot me a text and Ill send you the details") almost always clears up issues with flakes too.

Like others have said you are too focused on getting her number, and you are worried about something that is really simple. If you had fun in the 5 seconds to 48+ hours you just spent with her, the number thing pretty much takes care of itself.

I want to spend time physically in the same place as the girl. The number has zero value to me, until we actually meet again, then its just a tool. You have turned the phone number into a trophy.
edit: ok you are missing the point. Rereading your thread I realized you are just looking for a "magic" line. It doesn't exist. Have you done any reading/watching/listening of PUA materials? I suggest buying some books or looking up some PUA talks on youtube, once you grasp the basics we can help you deal with things in detail but if you are looking for a magic fix you aren't going to find one.

If you feel that I am annoying then that's your problem. I think you are projecting some past experience with other people onto me. You say aim for sex, but that's very difficult to do if you meet a girl at the gym for the first time, you are talking on the way to the locker room for two minutes and you are about to part ways because she is going to the female locker room and you are to the male locker room. So at this situation, I would like to know what the best approach would be.
Ok. It makes sense, but many other things make sense too, such as getting the number and then hanging out so it doesn't seem like you stayed just for the number. So why is this the right approach?
I also read that you should always take their number. Explain?
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Where is this coming from. I'm just asking for the smoothest way to ask without sounding bossy, desperate etc. You're too quick to judge.

My point is that, imagine lifting weights..I am suggesting you focus on your goal of 200kg deadlift as opposed to your current 80kg. If you set your target on the real goal then the mind will surpass your current best weight because you goal is not to stagnant around that number.

If you're doing chin ups, and think you can only do 7 reps, you will get to 6/7 because your mind has set that goal. If aim for 15 reps, you're more likely to reach 10 despite the fact your old mindset only thought you can do 7 reps at most.

So let's say your goal is to have sex, then the number is just one of those little things along the way and will come easy if you focus more on the future. The number is only a tool and of course I don't expect you to bang girls on a bus. But if you're talk to a girl on the bus and she can see that you mean business. Then the number will be more likely to be solid because hour goal wasn't to trick her for her phone number.


The reason you are annoying is because you've even been given lines and you still haven't tried, you keep asking for smoother ways lookig for the perfect line and totally disregard the bigger picture that the number is the easy part, it is also the most useless if that's your end goal like your current mindset.

We are giving you this advice in black and white and you keep bringing this simple thread back to life with more complexity and mental masturbarion. Trust me, if you find part to be the most difficult, then you're in for a treat when are sick of getting empty phone numbers that don't reply.

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You can't do 200kg if you can't do 80kg. I understand that the number is not the endgoal and is merely a step. I would like to be able to do this step right. Let's forget my "inferior mindset" for a moment. What would you have done in the situation that I described (with the locker room)?

You disregarded my chin up analogy, im pretty sure if you can't understand that, then there is zero point in helping you. You're making it complicated. Making the interaction solid, then the number is just a too lot bring you both together to Continue what you both started. But it seems you just want a quicker and smoothest way to cheat her number and get the hell out. So for the locker room, I wouldn't even go for a phone number unless I know she is into me.

I recommend you make these mistakes yourself, you will change your inferior mindset when you're getting all these flakey numbers because you might as well use the cheesy chat up line like "hey, I've lost my number, can I have yours instead?" It's funny, it's clever yes. But the goal is get the number here, and it will flake for sure. If you're talking to each other abouts each other's fav sex positions then the number is already assumed isn't it?

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They say that whenever you point something close to someones heart instinct takes over and they reach to grab what it is in an attempt to protect their heart.

I also believe in doing things in a way that says you expect them to be receptive to your request.

Therefore, you could say something like " here put your number in my phone" as you're reaching out to hand them your phone pointing it to their heart. All in one emotion. They'll grab it on pure instinct.

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ok you want a basic 'natural' way to ask for a number here is a way to go about it.

-after spending time building rapport, ideally while she is coming off a really good laugh-

"You are super fun, let's meet up for [insert whatever you want to do here, drinks, coffee, w.e. Just something that is relaxed and casual but not intimidating. Don't invite her to go up the canyon with you or come back to your place. Public, cheap, and easy to leave whenever you want; coffee is great for this.]"

"Yeah that sounds fun!" if she doesnt give you her number at this point....

"Hey what is the best way to reach you?"

"Oh here is my number" If she gives you anything like a facebook or e-mail or something you can expect zero response from her, best to move on to the next girl.


Note: my day 2's are 99% coffee because I love coffee its cheap and there are three places near me that fit several different needs. While drinking coffee and rebuilding that rapport bringing her back to my place or up the canyon or hell even the parking lot is far easier and 'spontaneous'

Just make it fun, and all the little things work themselves out, and the more you do this the more you can fine tune it. Example: If the girl seems like she will be hard to take up the canyon or back home, I take her to the coffee place that closes at 7. "Oh they are closing hey lets go for a drive"

That is because giving her your number is pretty much her never calling you. The same way you have to make the first approach you almost always need to set up the day 2. If I give her my number and she texts or calls me right then, I have her number. If I really want to get a day 2 and she doesn't perform that step Ill push it a bit, but chances are if she is interested she would have already offered. I would rather get 5 numbers that maybe 1 will drop rather than 10 numbers and 7 drop. Honestly though it is so situational making any rule for it is setting yourself up to fail. The more you do it the more you pick up on subtle ques that let you know how to react to what actions, but you don't think about it you just do it. Like playing the guitar, you play the scale enough and eventually you play it really well without even thinking about it where as previously you put all this thought into it and it still sounds rough.

The best advice I can give you, is try anything reasonable. IF it fails think "Why did it fail" and change that, if it didn't fail think "What could have made this easier or more fun"