This is quite a strange thing to wrap my head around. Been doing pua for few years, mostly natural stuff mixed nlp, patterns so quite experienced.

I have this situation where this girl who I have known for awhile came back from England from university. She had a boyfriend there but broke up shortly before coming back to the US.

So since I have known here quite the long time, she knows about my things with women. And how I can basically kiss them within the first 30 seconds of meeting them, basically.

Naturally I find out she is coming in town and I send her couple of text and we go on a date.
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Went well, managed to kiss her before leaving.

Then I hooked it up for a next date, went alright, basically showed her what's new town and met up with some of my buddies (some of which she had known). Though shortly arriving I had to drop her back off since I got called into work. Only kissed her goodbye.

Finally, I thought I had one more shot so I setup another date to the park.
However, at the last second my friend decided to join with us and his friend..who is a girl and is single (and is attracted to me)

This screwed everything.. I suppose lol

On the date, my girl was very separate from me, no attraction at all, I could not feel it. And almost anything I said felt like "he's just using his seducing methods on me"

Basically, she seemed more interested in my friend! It made it worse that he and his "girl friend" were acting like a couple making my girl jealous, which I know creates attraction a lot.

Thats not even the worse part

I felt so shitty this was happening in front of me, from my friend, oblivious to what he was doing (he isn't a pua). I wanted to leave so we went back to my friends house.
Upon arrival, she sat in a chair where I could not sit with her. Which further separated the attraction.
I was getting mad now, 15 mins she "she had to leave"

I walked out with her and she reminded me she is leaving for an Oregon Mission trip in 2-3 days for little over a week. (completely forgot) Said okay and blah blah, kissed her goodbye.


Yeah, many things I have done wrong I know. One being, I should have been flirting with my friends girl to create jealousy with my girl. And 2 not acting like a pussy.

So I am stuck. I forgot she was leaving in a few days. If I would have remembered I wouldn't have had my friend come with.


I want to plan one more "quick" date before she leaves to maybe seal the deal, but my fear is that she will just come off as "he just wants to get in my pants" and completely ruin everything.

Which is my main question, should I freeze her out until sometime she gets back, or take the chance for the date..? Not really sure what to do here, as it's first time I came from being in the friendzone to out of the friendzone, to almost back into the friendzone in 2weeks lol


Everything was going so well up until that last date...

Theres no real issue with going for it. Why not?

However one thing I teach guys is to learn to let go man. As men we're always trying to capitalize off of every opportunity to get laid. We treat pussy like its scarce and so women treat us like its worth more than what it is. Their pussy is worth more to our ego than our own dignity at times. This is where you see guys developing oneitis and getting friend zoned. When you learn to turn down pussy, a lot more of it will be thrown your way. It becomes devalued and so you project a stronger frame.

I'd personally make the sacrifice and just let her go. Learn from it and use what I learned with the women I meet in the future. Its always better to walk away while you still have cards on the table. You grow in strength, fortitude and discipline that way. The guys that walk away after they've tried everything else and now walking is their only option stay at the time level. They repeat oneitis case after oneitis case. And they just overall grow a lot slower in this game. Learning to walk by practicing it speeds up the learning curve.

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10-15% chance you can still salvage this.

This is why being a tech is a bandaid solution. So you can kiss a woman in under 30 seconds but you can't seal the deal in 3 real life scenarios. What good is that?

You're also obsessing over what "she thinks you might be trying to do".

You should start investing your time and effort into becoming authentic. Truly attractive.
Either that or NLP her into sleeping with you.

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Superb gentlemen, thank you.

I have had no problem letting girls go, I know there is always a better girl out there anyways, this one just hit a nail with me for some reason, maybe because I haven't seen her in ages...

Though, what do you mean by letting go, in this situation? I feel like I wont be able to let go because she will just start seeing and hanging out with my buddy. She has his number and knows where he lives. And I hang out with him many times a week, meaning I might also have to be hanging with her.

I have no problem with that, it's my fault for letting it happen. But how do I position and distant myself so she doesnt place me in the friendzone? Bring other girls over I know will work.. Or should I place myself in the friendzone for the time being. As I think there is no way I won't just stop seeing her. Our town is small and our social circle is also small.

What I think I am going maybbee to do is send her a few text then ask her out, then just flake (tell her can't make it).. and hit her up when she gets back from Oregon.. I will have to play it by ear

Funny, you say work on being authentic and truly attractive, I have been doing exactly that past that few days with reading and trying to learn new things. Also turning my frustrated energy into motivational energy. It's a hard thing to do.
Even started my strict cutting diet I created. I am not fat but I could lose 20lbs in 2 months, before bulking up again.

You know it at a surface level, however you don't yet believe it internally.
Letting go means just that. Let go. Find someone else to focus your time and effort on.
Also why are you trying to predict the future? Maybe you'll get hit by a bus while reading this post. Does that mean anything to the way you'll be living your life? it shouldn't.
She can't place you in the friendzone. Girls never friendzone guys. Guys friendzone themselves. The difference between you and other friendzone-ees is that you know a few "tricks" to spark up some emotions in her. Which won't work in the long run.

Small town, small circle, bla bla. All I hear are excuses. You must distance yourself internally, not physically. Physically helps, but thats it.
More of the same, dime a dozen. Like I said before, sleezy tricks are bandaid solutions. The rarely work and when they do, 90% of the times they backfire, point blank, directly into your face.
Read Models by Mark Manson. Or listen to the audiobook, that's even better.

Good luck cutting, but 20 lbs in 8 weeks is unrealistic. Try 10lbs.

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So you're going make up some bullshit just so you can potentially trap her in your web and take advantage of her? And you can't see why this girl friend zoned you in the first place? Wheres your realness and authenticity bro? You lead women by guiding there emotions with your semi detachment, not by preying upon them.

You sound childish to keep it real.

And letting go doesn't mean that you have to completely avoid seeing her. It means that you detach yourself from the situation and just leave her be. If you see her you see her. But you don't go chasing after her or still trying to sleep with her. Just let it go.

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That's the second recommendation of that book, I'll give it a go. Thank you. Not sure about the cutting recommend though, I think I can do it haha my metabolism is fast and I do lots of compound lifts. 2lbs a week is my goal we shall see
Yeah I kinda laughed at myself for even thinking about doing that after I posted that. Especially me predicting the future, lol. I am good at that though, make pretty good day trades in the markets.
I get what you guys are saying however, its just been a tough week for me.

I'll just let her go.

But last thing, so say I let her go, been a couple months maybe we run into each other a couple times, but I don't chase.
I know you said not to try to predict the future, but I mean if its been a couple months and she hasn't texted or called me, you guys think it will be good to send her a text to see if I can rebuild?

Not if you are still this outcome dependent.

But always save for a rainy day...

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Surely, thanks Heywood, RC, Eddie

It's like I got some fresh air and am much more better now that this is sorted.

I'll know when the time is right with this other girl