I have this mutual friend( girl b)(I’ve only recently just met)There’s times where I think she’s hot, there’s times where I think she’s.....ok.(on the whole she’s a good looking girl)The friend that introduced us to her(girl a) said she only likes a certain colour (of which I am that colour)(girl b)

I invited my main friend to a birthday outing in another city in which she said she’d be bringing this new mutual friend. I started a groupchat in SPAM with us all in, that were going to this city. I stayed pretty low key at first as I knew my friends would like her and wanted to see how it would go. (guy a ) had good flirty banter and chemistry from what it appeared in the beginning. However I invited my main girl friend out clubbing (girl a) she ended up bringing her friend along(girl b) the gut who had the flirty banter kind of cornered her in the club and was too much too soon. At this point it killed the attraction(girl talk in the bathroom moment).

MY PART: Previously to the club the two ladies were getting dressed in my room(whilst I’m in there, not totally naked, just underwear ,bearing in mind it’s the first time I’ve met this girl properly(girl b)The new girl asked me to help zip her skirt up, saw her ass and everything.( we was drinking a bit at this point)>>>>> fast forward to the club. She asked me if I wanted a lapdance, and kept asking me to sit on her lap. I was so tempted but I kind of didn’t want to come across to keen otherwise I felt the chase would be over so I reject all advances.

GUY B: She ended up kissing another guy, which she ended up deleting his number and blocking him. She also ended up kissing guy b.( the other guy in the group who is white, supposedly not her favourite colour)We got taxis back me and the main girl went home, while girl b and guy b went home to watch the Maywether fight( guy b had to be escorted out for being too drunk) now they’re saying they never had sex but I’m a bit unsure. She said she was nervous/awkward about going on this birthday city outing of mine because guy b kept wanting to go on dates and she didn’t want to go but “felt she had to be nice cause were going away as a group together soon” now me personally I think they’re going to get it on. He just seemed like the underdog as his approach was similar to guy a but smoother I guess, very persistent but smoother I guess.
What’s your views. ?

side note .She always puts me down if I make any slight joke towards anything with a even a minuscule sexual tone. She says im black-white not black black(thug/gangster lol) she only likes white white or black black

I'm getting really confused with this girl a, b, guy b, z, and x shit.

All I'm getting from this is you relying entirely on some bullshit "I like guys of x color" line she gave you and being completely reactive towards that.

The girl I'm with right now mentioned countless times how she likes dark hair green eyed guys.
Guess who she ended up with? yeah, the blond blue eyed guy, me.
Am I what she described as "her type"? Fuck no. I'm the exact opposite.
Did I give a fuck about what she described? Fuck no.
Should you? Fuck no.

As far as you're concerned you're the sexiest guy in her life as of right now. Believe that and so will she. Color, height, skin complexion? all background noise.

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The post is incredibly vague.

I would advise you to write with a bit more details. Use names, even if its made up names. Use the actual city even if its a made up city. You want your question to be as clear as possible so you can receive a clear answer. You're going to get what you give.

But from what I picked up, you're still looking for a woman to validate you instead of you looking in the mirror and realizing that you're good enough without the approval of anyone. You need no ones approval. Especially not a womans. They're fickle emotionally. They're like the tide, they're in one moment and out the next moment.. Chasing what it is they're into will send you in circles.

Not to mention, girls don't know what they want. Ask a girl what type of guy she likes and the guy will be opposite to her boyfriend.

I think what she's trying to say is, you have no identity. You don't know who you are or what you want to be. You haven't developed your character yet. You haven't taken enough risk. You're still living within your comfort zones. Unless you push, you're going to keep getting this down putting behavior from women. And its not so much that they think that you're down, they just think they're above you and they treat you as such. You're being a bit too nice.

Stop asking for opinions on who you are. You have to figure it out. If you believe them when they say you're great, you'll believe them when they say you suck. YOU have to know who you are. People will send you all over the place.

Know yourself man.

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Ok I realised this was a difficult read, I’m going to amend it slightly by using fake names and places. Eddie also made some good points. My birthday night hasn’t happened, all these events are a night out before.

The main questions or things I wanted working out was

• Did I do the right thing with the lap dance, and not sitting on her lap
• What was the whole grabbing at my junk in the car
• The asking to do her skirt
• Also do people think she likes Jordan
• Who's most likely to f*** this girl in london


I’m going away to London for my birthday, I invited a few guy friends named Max and Jordan. I also invited a female friend Rosie (which I’ve know for a few years), naturally she didn’t want to go with just a group of guys so invited one of her female friends Katie. It’s natural when you meet someone new you decide whether you’re attracted to them or not. I’ve seen Katie on a few occasions and sometimes I think she’s hot sometimes.....ok (overall a good looking girl, my type curvy.)Rosie gave me the info that she only dates blacks, of which none of my friends are, they’re all white.

The people who were going to my birthday outing in London I put in a SPAM group. Max had already seen Katie out, as she was at my birthday last year but left early due to boyfriend drama (she’s currently single). I knew max would like her from the way he was last year. I stayed pretty low key in this group and waited for people to play their hands. Originally it seemed as though max and Katie had good chemistry and banter. (Over group chat this was) But we went out as a group before my birthday night, and when we got in the club max had kind of killed the attraction, shed only been in the booth about 5 minutes and he got too sexual and kind of cornered her, at this point she grabbed my friend Rosie and went to the “bathroom”.


MY PART: Previously I picked Katie up, she had a bit to drink at this point. I had a drink in between my legs which she reached to get (personally a girl that is totally repulsed by you wouldn’t do that, not saying she liked me either)We went to pick Rosie up from her workplace, then the girls got changed at mine, bearing in mind this was the first time I’d met Katie properly.... saw a few things (she was in her underwear not completely naked) She couldn’t get her ass into this skirt and asked me for help, I really wasn’t sure what to make of all this, so I had her half exposed ass in my face trying to get into this skirt. Later on that night she asked me if I wanted a lap dance in the club of which I refused(not sure if that was the right thing) as I didn’t want to come across needy or make her think I wanted her more than I did. She also kept asking me to sit on her lap and being flirty. (She was flirty with a few other guys too, don’t know if that helps)She also kept asking for my snapchat in the car which I refused( guess it was me trying to playing hard to get)



JORDAN: She was quite flirty in the club, kissed one random guy and ended up blocked him the next day because he asked her out for food (girls are too strange lol) however she also kissed my friend Jordan. As I mentioned before we had met her quite a few times briefly before and Jordan was doing his thing(gaming, although max and Jordan aren’t in the pua world, so more “naturals”) He is quite persistent, has does all the things pua wouldn’t agree with, has shows his interest too much, very romantic soppy etc etc, but it works for him I can’t knock him. Girls always think he’s the best looking out of the group.

Jordan had to be escorted out as he was too drunk. Rosie came back to mine, her friend said she’d go back with Jordan and the other guys as they live closer to hers(The maywether fight was on). Now I personally think something went on but both are denying it. After the whole night had happened Jordan became more persistent asking her on dates, Katie told Rosie she felt awkward about this because she didn’t want it to be all awkward in London if she says no.( take from this what you will) Prior to this Jordan was quiet and wasn’t trying as much, but after that night there seemed to be something a bit more there. He seemed allot more confident something was going to happen in London.


Side note: she always puts me down, we do have back and forth banter but any chance to get to make a HUGE claim that nothing sexual is going to happen between us she will. Me and Rosie always have sexual jokes, but I’ve known her for a few years and I don’t want anything to happen to be honest, not my type. With Rosie if I do anything slightly similar she’s having none of it where as Jordan bit more receptive. She says she either likes white-white or black black. She says max and jordan are white white and i'm black white. (token black boy)