Hi Guys,

This is a bit of a sticking point I've got with my friends shyness. So I meet this one girl in a nightclub who was a complete stunner who actually opened me up, we were chatting on and off for the night and when I woke up the next morning she had adeed me as a friend on facebook. I accepted and there was a few messages over and back but then she stopped.

Bumped into her a few weeks later in the same club and she was all over talking to me and I was with three friends and she had one girlfriend none of my three friends would talk to the girlfriend it was so annoying they are not into pickup and haven't have a clue what to do in theese situations. I was getting on great with her dancing, talkning, kino etc. etc. Her friend walked off and eventually she had to go get her after about 20 minutes she felt sorry for her and went looking. My three friends were like wow she's hot and she's really into you and you were great chatting to her. I then explained about her friend and how they should of talked to her, didn't see her for the rest of the night after that. about two weeks late she sent me a happy birthday on my facebook that was last week, so I said she's defintley into me have to ask her out when I get her on her own.

So last night we were out with two of the three friends and they both said I should ask her out and I said I will but if we see her toninght with one friend you have to talk to the friend just to give me five minutes to ask here out face to face. Said it severeal times to them then we bumped into the two of them again and I got on great with both of them and kiss closed the girl I'm into her friend was really nice to me and started saying jockingly she thinks your great etc etc. Actually got a birthday kiss of her too, we were talking for five minutes and my two friend were right there and did nothing!! Not a word was said to either of them by either of them. They then said they had to go get a drink I let them get it, I then gave out to my friends. "Like what the fuck guys I told ye to talk to her". Escuses were "oh I forgot" "oh I hadn't noticed you were talking to her until they walked off". I explained to them again you have to have to talk to her friend for 5 minutes while I close the deal. It was so annoying they know I was really into her and what to do and they fucked it up! Didn't see her again for the rest of the night.

I think I need to ask her out otherwise she will find another man, need to do it ASAP but my friends will probably do the same thing again. Im thinking should I ask her out over facebook over this I don't want to because it is the cowardly thing to do I think better have the balls and do it face to face. Also she may think I'm a whimp to do it over facebook but then I would explain to her the obvious situation with my friends as I'm sure she has already noticed.

What do you think is the best thing or should I just ask her out in front of her friend?

Get better wingmen. You can't put all the blame on your friends, they are probably shy and are truly nervous with the hot girls. The only thing you could have done is introduce everyone and hope for the best. Maybe provide a line, a common interest and see if anyone bites. Other than that you are shooting yourself in the foot by not asking her out. Get her number, game on Facebook, you don't have to put so much pressure to get the date in person. It's better to get her one on one anyway.

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Agreed. Yeah, you made this way too complicated. It takes 5 seconds to ask someone out.

[quote="neo87"][quote="Mr. Assertive"]Get better wingmen. Easier said than done searched high and low in my area so many times can't find any I live in a town near a small city

Agreed. Yeah, you made this way too complicated. It takes 5 seconds to ask someone out.
I know it only takes a matter of seconds that's why I asked them to talk to her friend for a couple of minutes while I asked her out on her own. I can agree that yes maybe I'am making it too complicated if it happens again I might just have to whisper it in her ear would be better to isolate but that is hard to do given the friends I typically go out with there are a few that would be better I'll try and get into contact if I don't see her in the next few weeks I'll just ask her out via message on facebook. I don't want to do it like that but haven't got much of a choice.