This time yesterday you were trying to convince me with empirical scientific studies that women cheated because of lack of orgasms. Today it's fragile egos. Are you going to put some more links of studies as proof? Or are you still blinded by the passion of trying to look like a scholar when it comes to women? Just imagine, 24 hours ago, I was feeling sorry for me. Now I find myself feeling sorry for you. You must have something better to do with your time other then trying to insult a guy that you've never met or has said anything disrespectful towards you until you started speaking disrespectfully towards me. Instead you, the scientific guy that can't interpret a report, is sitting around trying to find a way to feel better about himself. Since you can't feel better about yourself, you are trying to kick me when I'm down.

What your cognitive bias disallows you to understand is that an emotional connection is not formed and is definitely not maintained solely through a "hard throbbing cock".
That's the fucking problem. You either can't or don't want to get past that.

I honestly don't think you need studies to confirm lack of sexual satisfaction can lead to cheating. That lack of relationship satisfaction can lead to cheating, and that fucking sex stimulates emotional connections. Everybody here knows that, you're on a forum dedicated to seduction.

Not every god damn problem has this "universal" magic pill of just making her fucking orgasm and not every god damn problem has it's causality lying in not having done so.

Why is that so hard to understand?

And Arch, you're acting like a teenage girl. This isn't a videogame convention. Having a 3some with your 20yo girl does not make you a demigod.

Jesus fucking Christ.


@OP, what will you do?

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I am pretty sure I'm calling it quits on the relationship. I'm not calling quits because of her going through with the whole thing. I'm calling it quits because of the dishonesty involved. I'm just having a hard time deciding if I should give her a chance to come clean by letting her know that I'm aware of what's happening and maybe working things out from there, but in my eyes I realize the lie had already been told. Even if she does come clean, she'll cover her tracks better next time.

And where in my posts did I insult you, hmm?

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Jesus Fucking Christ! There you go again R.C. You are arguing again on points I did NOT even raise. What is so difficult to understand about absolutes, odds and chances? What is so hard to understand about causes versus correlations?

Where the fuck in here did I mention that giving women vaginal orgasms is a universal magic pill? My advices in this forum fucking varied from case to case. What you are saying is fucking deceptive and a fucking gross misrepresentation of the fucking facts.

Here's a fucking sample advice from another thread. Where the fuck in there did I mention about vaginal orgasms?
Moreover, your fucking sweeping generalization that everybody here fucking knows:

"That lack of relationship satisfaction can lead to cheating, and that fucking sex stimulates emotional connections."

Simply fucking does not reflect the fucking realities in this forum. You have fucking lots of guys on here fucking wanting to marry fucking girls they haven't fucking interacted well enough yet or had fucking sex!

You have several fucking guys on here wanting to fucking talk when the fucking girls they're with fucking wanted to fuck who ended up fucking other guys instead who took fucking action instead of fucking talk!

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That's a sample of seduction advice given to a guy that's trying to get a girl. So yes, I imagine you will not be pointing to "bad sex" as the reason he hasn't had sex with her yet. Obviously.

That one of the two categories topics on this forum fit in. This, however, is the second. Where the OP has whatever kind of relationship with the woman, and has a problem.
But since you want to throw examples around, here's a recent one:
And here's your reply:
Guy has relationship problem, and despite the fact that he specifically states that his girl wants to remain FUCK BUDDIES, you still go on about how the most probable cause is bad sex and how vaginal orgasms will get her emotionally attached.
She literally said she wants to cut the emotional aspect off, KEEP THE SEX, but no. Bad sex.
True, you have those guys. And those are real issues, but that says nothing about my statement. You don't have to be good with women to understand basic fucking realities. And if you don't have the cognitive capacities to figure out a sexually unpleased woman will eventually find her pleasure somewhere else, or that sex can create emotional connections, women are the least of your problems.

And yes, when a guy posts about how his girl rarely wants to have sex with him and how she's distancing herself from him, by all means, point to the quality of it and tell him all about vaginal orgasms. But for fucks sake, the way you point any and every relationship problem, regardless of it's nature, to the same god damn source is simply nonsensical.

Statistics have nothing to do with it. If a guys ask for advice in regards to building muscle, telling him to get more protein because on average that's the most lacking macronutrient in most peoples' diets does not fucking help. You're not a nutritionist for saying that and you bring little to no value to his life.
Going to the gym without a balanced diet will yield close to no palpable success.
Eating a perfect macro split without ever lifting a weight will not magically build muscle.
And fucking a woman like a demigod will not cure fucking cancer and end world hunger.

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That's an outright lie.

Here's my advice to a guy problem at the Relationship Section:
Did you read any vaginal orgasms in the above post? There's none.

What's your point?
I never gave that kind of advice. That's a fraudulent statement.
Nah. My standard advice when it comes to working out at a gym is almost always followed by 'Eat healthy.' This statement of yours is a plain lie.
Never gave this kind of advice.
I have yet to encounter a forum member around here who has cancer or wants advice on ending world hunger. This statement again is a plain lie.

What are you going to accuse me of next RC, hmm? I shot John F. Fucking Kennedy?

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I am about to accuse you of being apparently unaware of what a metaphor, analogy or hyperbole is.

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Let's start with your your remark that you hope and pray that my girlfriend gets the pussy pounding that she's been lacking because you believe that I haven't been able to do the job. That's an insulting statement. Let's not forget that you tried to insult my intelligence by saying that she was going to cheat because she didn't receive vaginal orgasms and then later say it's because of my fragile ego. It's insulting that you are in this post and have not said one word that's helpful in my situation other than echoing something that the another person has said.

That applies when you're not arguing with someone. In an argument, what you're doing is called a strawman logical fallacy.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

"You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate."

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You felt insulted because I did not give you the advice you wanted to hear. I never attacked you as a person nor did I call you names. Taking the other side (your girlfriend's side) is not uncommon in this forum, especially at the Relationship Section. If you consider that an insult, then there's nothing I can do about that. It's just the way it is.

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It was neither advice I wanted to hear, nor was it advice. There have been a number of posters here that said things that I didn't want to hear but they weren't passive aggressive nor insulting when saying those things. I never said that you've attacked me as a person or called me names, so I'm not sure why you need to bring that up unless you think that insults are just limited to those two things. I must have missed out where you actually gave me advice regarding my situation. I've read through your statements here and the most you have done is echo the statement of not being hypocritical. Everything else you say is the same as being a Monday morning quarterback and bad science. What advice did you actually give that has added any value to the issue at hand?

I wouldn't get caught up in the whole "was she or wasn't she" sexually satisfied part of this whole thing. The only people that have a clue on that subject is the OP and even moreso is his girlfriend. Even if the OP didn't give a proper description of what he observed during what he perceived as an orgasm doesn't mean she did or didn't have them. Everyone else's input on what she's feeling is just speculation. Personally, I don't spend any time verifying orgasms. There's no fun in that. You can tell if you do the job if they come back for more and they are initiating without you having to do a thing.

I have kind of a different take on this whole thing because even though the OP made a drunken request, his girlfriend pretty much did a foul thing by bringing another girl in the room without his permission while he was blindfolded. I'm not saying that his reaction of enjoying it was wrong and going with it because he was in the moment. He just didn't have time to think about it and this had never been a normal dynamic in their relationship. Just imagine if a man brought another guy into the room while she was blindfolded and have sex with her because she said it would be fun in a drunken statement.

OP, I think there is a bigger trust issue here than just lying to you about what she did even though a lot of guys would envy the position that you were in. You guys obviously view sexual intimacy in different ways and I'm GUESSING that at this point that for her it's more about fun and we thought she saw an opening for more fun, she ran with it. If she thought the 3some was something she did for fun and not for intimacy it's not likely she's not looking at a 3some that doesn't include you as something intimate.

You should take both of those things into consideration if you are thinking of giving her another chance if she does come clean about the birthday for the roommate's boyfriend.

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When was all of this verified, that she is indeed doing this and going through with it? You didn't reveal this fresh news previously in this thread.

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Very solid points and you are absolutely correct. Thank you for the input. We are getting ready to meet up in a bit and I will be talking to her about all of this. I'm already leaning towards ending things this afternoon but she deserves a chance to make her case.