9's and 10's would run. My philosophy that you can only make so many beta mistakes still holds true. My philosophy that orgasms are extremely important early on still holds true, an that you can make more mistakes if your bedroom game is great.

The mistakes I made were that I did not adjust my game months in, to a lighter frame. I made those adjustments.[/quote]That couldn't be your mistake. According to you she was asking for exclusivity in under two months and if you read an even earlier post, she wanted assurances that you guys were more than just sex about two weeks in. So there was no need to go to a lighter frame because you had the girl within a couple of weeks.

I'm asking about the fact that she thought she was in control and that meant she wasn't viewing you as being dominant. I'm asking about you ignoring her texts(emotional/butthurt, I think is what you called it). I'm asking about you punishing her for trash behavior. I'm talking about the emotional behavior. I'm talking about the outcome dependence. You have a different mindset for yourself but are hard on other guys for the same mindset.

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True, but I kept too much of the game. And so it came off as coldness, which a few months in, drove her away.


I only said that in the context of new/newerish girls. Not once you've been banging. First impressions are so important, and in early game, mistakes are significantly magnified.

It's important to remember that everyone is always learning. If you're not evolving annually, you won't do well with women unless you're a celebrity (and even then you won't keep the girls you want once they see your sheen wear off).

Much of the advice I give is to remind myself to implement it. Writing it down keeps the mind working, keeps the improvement flowing while helping others.

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Yeah...I told you that would happen. But still, this is after you got the girl. So it's beyond the scope of what I've been asking you about.So much more I was asking about, but if you want to limit it to one point that we've already talked about...but ok. But I guess your bottom line is give them an orgasm and then you can get away with anything.

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Dude, I'm lashing out more at your juvenile teenager in a 40-year-old body's ass. Who the hell prides themselves on dating someone half their age? Most of those girls are like kids. Says something about you. Outside of this echo chamber, almost nobody would think much of you.

Long before I even heard the term "game", living different lifestyles in different countries, I got girls or had them showing interest in me. Yes, fit ones. Gaming, partying, couching, lifting, studying, whatever. BMI 23 or 26 (I'm the former, now). It doesn't mean shit. When I was a teenager.. I got teenage girls. In college for a few years before I met my wife (8 years together this year, married for 4) ... I got college age girls. No "game" or overthinking necessary. I rejected more girls that I can count along the way, too. Crazy shit, I know. Who rejects attractive girls? But hey, you got a sub 25 BMI girl. Congratulations. Just like countless other guys out there. Your overcompensating hillbilly-class "alpha behavior" has been providing quite the entertainment, though. Keep it up. Try engaging in a little less solipsism.


Oh.. do these girls you meet have arms? You'd think they'd figure out how to make themselves cum. Orgasms are extremely important... hahahahahaha! No way these women could know their bodies... no way!

And how'd you figure out who the 9s and 10 are? Sounds like you've figured out the universal ratings for all women, since that's the only way it would impact their behavior. Damn man, tell us how you did it!

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20-somethings are kids?

Uh, no.

Don't lash out because you can't produce those results. And if a 20-something Victoria Secret model asked to go down on you, I'm sure you'd deny her.




I can see where you went wrong in with women...you're equating masturbation with passionate, mind-blowing sex.

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Stop attacking the person Auto. This is a discussion on ideas. Your post is 100% flame and bragging, and 0% content.

On topic: V-day gifts or any gifts for that matter are not about conforming to the general trend. A gift is an expression of your generosity to someone who makes you happy despite your high standards.

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If you like her you can shower her with gifts. If not, forget it.

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Not helpful and very generic response.

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The worst part about this is you having some shit advertisement in your sig.

Pathetic.

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my thought was getting someone a gift when you only started seeing them 1-4 dates really gives the woman too much value. Especially, when this woman doesn't know quite what she wants and gives you mixed signals..

All of the "giving her value" stuff is the easy way out of not putting the effort in yourself. If you were a truly valuable man that women desired, do you think it would be possible to give her a gift that conveyed that she had more value than you?

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jackzero I'm talking about how women perceive things

That doesn't change my statement. If you had your shit together with your life or it was abundantly clear that you are going somewhere with it while carrying yourself in a confident and masculine manner do you really believe that she can "perceive" herself as having more value than you because you gave her a gift for valentine's day?

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buying a woman a gift is not something that I do contingent on where I am in my life... it's a gesture of sentiments... flowers and a poem doesn't require much.... such gestures are a bit much in my view when someone begins dating someone.... it's like I give them all the cards....

Look, it's really simple. Don't do things you don't feel people have earned.

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