There is nothing wrong with meeting in public, plenty of dates are even more fun then drinks or dinner in my opinion, but the topic of the thread deals with a guy that wants to be frugal while hopefully still making a girl not feel cheap and unimportant. That is his aim, this topic has been derailed a bit.
I feel undesired if my date is not at the very least affectionate, the more passionate and easy going she is the more it turns me on as long as she isn't crude about it until we are very comfortable. The only thing that is a turn off is if it is too aggressive and fast and she can't tell and won't slow down, although that seems to be more of an older woman thing. I like the slow build up where we take it little by little. As long as I feel I can trust her and she is willing to open up then I see no harm in it, as long as she won't tell anyone about what we do in private there is no issue.

There is nothing like that feeling when you look someone in the eyes and slowly start to smile at each other and just know. Everything else besides that feeling, like arbitrary times met up, or money spent feels irrelevant compared to that feeling and the type of person staring you back. Sometimes different people take more patients, but if someone is putting on a front and can't just let go or be affectionate due to some arbitrary constraint I myself feel bad about it, like she doesn't care about me at all, not even enough to give it a chance, and I'm just some chore on her day planner.

Didn't ignore it. That's not my preference. I like to wait and get to know a person better.
Never said that. I wouldn't even continue with a man if I wasn't physically attracted to him. I cut it off after the 1st date. But again, why would you sleep with someone that you are 50% or 0% attracted to?

But you haven't been to Romania... thus, ignorant comment. Even the person FROM Romania called you out on the ignorance which you have disregarded

Anyway, you are delusional if you think that an American woman has never had sex with a guy she has met from the street:

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So you have only slept with men that are perfect for you? Why aren't you still with the 1st guy, then?
Thank you, end of thread

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Hey bale, I get it if you prefer having sex after a few dates.

Lets be real, most guys cant fuck. They are bad at sex. So maybe for you, the sex is not enough. Maybe you prefer to build a connection and some tension before sleeping with someone. I know female friends who wont sleep on a first date or second, because when they do, the sex isnt enjoyable....the guy basically just masterbates with their vagina and the guys dont know how to be intimate before and after fucking. So they prefer to let some time build so the sex can at least be enjoyable in their mind.

Whats being forgotten I think, is alot of this is PREFERENCE....we cant apply much logic to what should turn a woman on. Maybe rape is more likely to come from a friend than a stranger...doesnt matter because regardless if she FEELS uncomfortable doing something then thats whats important. Maybe a guy flirting with you isnt what turns you on that much; maybe its when he treats you like he cares that does. Maybe its when he spends time with you. And thats fine, what makes you want to fuck a guy is your choice. Where you go off the rails with that though is when you describe these preferences more so like rules and laws for everyone else.

Personally, I dont like SNLs anymore because I prefer building some tension. Thats my preference, and different from me saying that people who have sex the first night are XYZ.

Exactly ^.

You can say you prefer passionate sex.
You can't say you prefer not having sex until x dates as if that is any quantifiable indicative of how close two people will be. That's not preference. That's a rule. And an invalid one at that given that we're not talking about a linear process.

As far as women being more approachable in the EU than the US.. yeah, no. That's just grass is greener on the other side syndrome.

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The city I am currently in...

Travellers stay for about 2 days total lol

3 date then sex are just not an option, for me nor for them - Derp

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It has nothing to do with location. I assure you.

Lol, the egocentrism of it... don't worry, I got no mission on you. But seeing how much you dislike empirical facts and logic, and how illusional you are (you walk into a community where people spend a considerable amount of efforts and time mastering the practice of seduction, you make some claim, and when guys more experienced than you try to discuss about these claims your best answer is "Whatever, you're wrong, I'm right"), we can agree there's no point arguing.

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Quite a few women ive fucked on the first date loves to go around and tell people they dont ever do that until 3 or 4 dates.

Lol, fellas stop feeding this troll.

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There is a difference between that which you describe and having sex. If the person doesn't give you any indication of a sexual attraction, why stick around. But you don't need to have sex right away to prove there is an attraction.

Other thing is, some women (and men) are quite shy in reality. Some haven't had the experience, some are just emotionally closed off, haven't dated in a few years, etc. If I was dating a guy that was a virgin, let's say, and he told me he was bad with women, or uncomfortable, or whatever, I honestly wouldn't mind waiting 3-4 months for sex. Why not.

I have LIVED in Romania. No, it's not that of an ignorant comment. You know why? Because I've got plenty of guy friends (non-Romanians) that are getting hit on by Romanian chicks with minimal effort. But sureeee, they must be lying and everything on this forum is 100% real deal. Not all prejudices are true, but there is a reason for them existing in the first place.
Never said that. I said that it's much harder to do that in the States than in Europe.