Yep.

If a man gives consistent orgasms, and is not a beta, this will not happen to him.

Attractive women have had abundance mentality their entire lives. It's why it's so easy for women to dump men early. They know ten more will take the place of the one.

Women are rifting through men to find the dominant males. When they find one, they become obsessed, and the dominant male decides who is and isn't in his life. It's a FREAK turn of nature for them, an aphrodisiac to have a man with options and emotional control. Kick in good bedroom skills, and it's even harder for women to walk away.

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See Arch, thats where I differ. I'm not going to make excused for my lack of morals. And if I do, I have to afford a girl the same luxury. Sex is great, the long raven and blonde hair, all thats great. But that doesnt mean you as a man should forget your morality for some pussy. We're grown men. If you're against cheating, I'm holding you to hold your morality even in a sexual position. See, if OP's chick had him blindfolded and she brought in a drunk chick, should he continue? If she brought in a 15 yr old chick? As ADULTS, your morals only matter when tested. I wouldnt give myself the excuse that oh I was so turned on, same way I wont if it was a minor brought into the room. If you are against cheating, you dont allow it to happen. As adult men, as men with options, as men who've had sexual encounters, I cant excuse dismissing your morality because of being turned on. Same way I wont hear girl say well I cheated on you because I was just turned on. If you're against cheating, hold to that, dont just say the words and then excuse yourself from that standard when its difficult. And if you allow yourself leeway, give the chick the same. Pussy aint that special for me to push morality aside, maybe at 15, not now. I dont know, maybe where you stand on an issue, depends on factors and whether its difficult for you. Not me. I wont say Im against something and excuse it.
Lol, if he confronts her and gets the truth, its because he was dominant
if he confronts her and gets dumped, its because he was weak

Do you realize how interchangably you're using the whole dominance/weak thing? I mean, you do see how its like you're cold reading right?
Arch, do you not see how you flip flop? How myself, jack the op, is not confused by what you're saying; moreso that you'll say one thing and then change it? If dumping after 2 weeks due to orgasms is what you meant, why bring it into a discussion of a year long relationship? See how I wasnt even speaking of dumping or 2 weeks timeframe? You told the guy to say nothing, when he confronts you say he was being dominant.

Lol, yall have now gone to divorce, when OP's girl was going to fuck and come back to him. No mention of her dumping him or leaving him. Now its turned into divorce.

The OP beat all of your assumptions.

In shape? Dude is a damn personal trainer
Sexual experience? Been with 100s of women, 40 years on the planet, and believes strongly he gets real orgasms.
Alpha? Alpha enough to get his girl to give him a 3 some and fuck him reg?

But no...it cant be that you are wrong....his gf didnt get real orgasms and he wasnt dominant....the 3 some doesnt at least suggest he knows what he's doing, his girl wanted to please him and his gf enjoys sex with him. He's weak lol.

hahahha this is such bullshit, Neo. If you were dating a girl, and she brought in another cute gf to blow you, you would not think "oh my god, these women are corrupting my morals!"


Come. On. Man. This just shows it's never happened to you.


This is why I'm really a starting to doubt some of the posters on this forum. No man with a dick still attached would have that thought go through his head in that moment. Your loving gf, who you really care for, blowing you with her cute friend.

Morals?

Bullshit.





Wow, these analogies are horribly flawed.


The OP is doing well, IMHO. But it could just be that attraction faded. It happens in relationships.

It's not my job to point out the obviously good, but rather see potential holes.

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Arch Stanton. This is become rather tiring. Until the moment we had the menage a trois, we had never talked about doing them. She has always known that I do not tolerate cheating. The moment she mentioned that the chances of it happening, I told her no. If that's not establishing a standard, like I've asked you before but you did not answer, please tell me how to establish it and quit acting as if I made some sort of mistake. Please offer a solution instead of saying that I wasn't doing something right and then later saying I did do it right.

Just a side note. If I would have listened to you from the beginning, I would be sitting here tomorrow night not knowing my girlfriend was cheating because you were telling me everything was okay. So please stop putting me down while you sat there and didn't give me any information. I appreciate you rooting for me but I wasn't looking for a cheerleader. I was looking for good, solid advice.

The reason I say this, is because I havent just learned abt or started having pussy yesterday. Ive had married women try to fuck, friend's gfs try to fool around, drunk chicks try to fuck. Guess what, I stopped it. Because getting that piece of ass wasnt worth it. Was there a certain point in life when I would or did. Yeah. Shit morals and lack of experience. You sound exactly as I did probably at 19. Sure, 2 chicks going down on me? Fuck it, dont care whether she got a bf or not! When pussy was this great thing. But really, after a certain age, you cant turn down a piece of ass? You keep saying gfs "friend" like the issue was ever that. Its your gfs friend who is in a relationship. Is turning it down hard? Sure, but thats the point. You gotta question where you really stand on things when you have a scenario where you think its ok.


OP, the sex was bad, she was faking for the past year. All those chicks you fucked, you didnt learn how to make one cum. That 3 some she gave you, wasnt because she enjoyed fucking you and liked you enough to please you, she did it because only with the chick she could get off. You never let her know cheating was not ok, hence you had poor boundaries and this is what happens. You're in great shape, but you need to roid up for more sex appeal and dominance, plus the Paul walker thing doesnt help. You didnt give orgasms, so she was going to get one from the guy whose gf cheated on him, probably because she didnt get real orgasms either. Confronting her was the one right thing you did. Thats just the jist of it right?

It was neurotic and weak until it was the right thing but everything else was very accurate.

The above paragraph is highly deceptive and misleading.
Do you see the ambivalence in the highlighted statements? First the op called my statement an outright lie and then op proceeded to admit to name calling after I sided with his girlfriend. The truth is, the op attacked some us here as persons and not the ideas/advices long before I sided with his girlfriend.

It's just plain ridiculous to call something a lie and then back pedal to admit to the wrongdoing.
The highlighted part is misleading and inaccurate.
Arch described his feelings. He did not call the op a troll.
In here, Arch described the op's actions.

As you can discern from above, the op painted some of the posters in a bad light because they provided the contrarian advice/insights he did not want to hear.

In this forum, it's not a matter of choosing which advice to follow but rather it's about the collective intention of several experienced posters to help a bro in need of help. Whether he chooses a particular advice or not, that doesn't matter. What matters is that he got several perspectives on a problem from clear thinking individuals during a time when he is in great emotional distress and has clouded judgment due to duress.

I'm now going to toot my own horn in this matter to illustrate a point. I kept silent about this in the entire thread until now. I'm 47. I'm dating several women in the 18 - 23 years old age range. And I have been in several threesomes already. By several, I mean more than three times. Not many, but several. If the op did not like the quality of my insights in this thread, that's fine with me. The bottomline is that he feels better now compared to a few days ago.

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It's an outright lie because you are acting like you were being so nice and not talking down to me until I've all of a sudden disrespected you. Fine, he didn't call me a troll or neurotic or weak. He didn't offer any solutions. He just sat around making accusations that were not true while he was rooting for me.

And now a sudden change in your statement.

You have to rest op and bury the hatchet. You are still under duress. This problem is over. I'm done with this thread.

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Lol. No change in my statement when it comes to you. Arch Stanton, I'm sorry for saying that you were calling me names when you were simply making false statements. Monsignor Crisanto, you provided absolutely no use here except for teaching Arch Stanton what an orgasm is.

So Arch, were "all those guys saying a favor was owed" right?

By you onslaught about dominance and real orgasms, the OP had a 3some with her gf, and her friend that has a boyfriend. So that means the boyfriend didn't provide his girl with orgasms and dominance.
Now the boyfriend was about to get the same SPAM as the OP. But we was weak because he was cheated on already. So how the hell did it happen?


@OP, I still don't think this is that big of a deal. If I were in your shoes I'd probably be pissed off about the lying too, but I'd also keep in mind that she did try to approach you honestly. Except you were having none of it and that's really not ok seeing as how you had absolutely no issue when she brought another woman in the bedroom for you.
Like Neo said, if this is a dealbreaker for you then also hold yourself to the same standards. Or give the women in your life the same leeway you give yourself.

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The OP is a troll. This entire story is bullshit.

End of thread for me as well.

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The only bullshit in this thread is yours Arch.
You're a keyboard warrior. And you're accusing OP of being a troll because that's your last line of defense. It's pathetic.

You got lucky with your 20 year old gf. And I know that because you act exactly like the guy who won the lottery and is now giving advice on how to make money, as if he earned it.

You did not.

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It seems that a weak guy (the roommate's cuckold bf) was about to get a 3some. Maybe you can explain rc how OP was weak, but got a 3some, the cuckold was weak and was about to get a 3some. Or maybe they were both dominant? Does being cheated on and staying with the chick get you a 3some? RC please make this make sense for me.... I think Arch is just trying to dismiss this because it hits home. OP could very well have taken his advice and said nothing, continued on and come back to the forum saying "a favor is owed" is bs. Arch, this was not directed to your similar situation and if you continue to trust your gf, let it be because of her character and loyalty, not because you think its a weak vs dominant thing. You can say OP didnt have boundaries or whatever, but the roommates cuckold bf WAS abt to get a 3some. If you trust someone, let it be for the right reasons. As a side note, you said your gf reads these, wont she see you as weak when she reads you coming here to keep her attention, and going through her phone? All Im saying is if this matches your situation, and you trust your gf, dont hang it on these shifting rationalizations and find something solid to hang your faith on.

Op, what are you going to do?

He is, that's why I called it out. It makes no sense because it's a contradiction.

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