Hi guys- first post, so hopefully its in the right section and as per the posting rules.

Ive not a problem with pick ups in general but I'm more mature (mentally and physically look older) than ppl of my age (21) and tend to pull older women (married / single ) as they seem more attractive to me. I get picked up (by girls/women occasionally) and usually get the one I want when I go for a pull.

Now, ive been out of education for 3 years and decided to go uni this year to study engineering (Male dominated course) - living at home .... From day one, this girl on my course has caught my eye. (Not sure her background at all but has a Russian name and speaks german, english and russain - kinda obvious) and she seems to be around 18/19 years of age.

The way I tend to work is picking up when one is alone or not in a densely packed environment. This is sort-of impossible here! I've found her on facebook (not stalking) and she doesnt seem to be in a relationship. She's always with friends (girls/ guys) at uni so I just don't know when/ how to approach! So I'm stuck here!

I think facebook contact may be seen as kind of cowardly (comments?) - the fear of failure has gotten me this time and everything goes blank on the approach. I HAVEN'T communicated to date. I've only sent a facebook friend request (Yesterday- no response yet)

Additional info: I'm set apart from other guys in a few ways: I've my own motorbike (a beast), I can be seen as introverted (but socialising isnt a problem, Ive just took 3 years out , so want to focus) & tend to keep to myself out of choice. I always sit on the last row at the back (I like the view from top of lecture theatres) - so you know where to find me. I have a deep/ strong voice ... Good, strong body build albeit I'm 5'5. My attire is elegant/ professional - occasionally casual. I dont drink, so I tend not to go on events (possible downside in terms of meeting) . She does gymnastics (deduction from facebook pic)

(THE OBOVE IS ONLY TO GIVE READERS A PICTURE OF POSSIBLE HINDRANCES, NOT TO SHOW OFF, IF YOU FEEL THAT WAY)

One-itis... why you stalking her?

If that's considered stalking, I'm trying to find her position (single/ paired) seeking a relationship or not. She may even turn out to be a lesbian, who knows?

Such information can be used to decide an approach, if its worth it at all. I'm on here to build a picture of a situation so I can have suggestions from other PUAs since I have different feelings for this one which are important and dont want to mess it up. As previously stated, I don't have pick-up problems in general but this is not a general one for me.

I'm very open to criticism / remarks / suggestions..... feel free to throw in your 2 ponies

I'm bored so I will play your game. Fear of failure = one-itis...It is always worth it to talk to women, even if nothing comes from it. I love females, don't you? Wouldn't you like to get to know more, regardless of kissing, sex, and all the glorified bullshit? Part of talking to women is finding stuff about them. If they are lesbian or has bf or whatever else, you will find that shit out by talking to them. Females are a numbers game, if you talk to 10 females, you will get the number of 5. You will take 3 of them out and only 1 of them will fuck you. I'm not math magician but it seems to be the general consensus amongst men.

So my next remark will be hurtful, don't read it if your a one-itis bitch-made motherfucker cause obviously you aint cut from my cloth.



Grow a pair of balls and go fucking talk to her. There are 7-8 billion people populating this earth and 50.1% of them are women. Think about how many people you know with a girlfriend or is getting laid consistently. That's right, so many of them are available and you are worrying about this one?

I know you will make us proud :}. Go talk to her and come back and tell us how much of an animal she was in bed

My man, when you start thinking about this ONE girl for too long, when you check her out on fb and you strategise
ways of how you can initiate a conversation - you've got ONE-ITIS.

There is a general rule in the community and that is, if you go after a girl, you get no girl. If you go after
10 girls, you get 10 girls.

All of your strategising and contemplating how to approach her and from which angle is just making
the entire thing waaaaaaaay more pressured than it really is.

Can you imagine a spontaneous approach in which you can be completely relaxed and at ease...when you spent
2+ weeks stalking her on fb and social media, planned the right "execution" of the approach like a general
planning to go into a battle?

Unless you're an awesome world-class professional con-artist, that won't work.

One-Itis is a bitch. It can be hard. ONE girl catches your eye, and she's all you're thinking about the next weeks.

But if you want to get her, you need to get OUT of this mindset of stalking her, and just speak with OTHER
women.

> Talk to women at your school diners
> Talk to women behind the counter at your coffee shop
> Approach women on campus or street

If you want to get THIS woman, focus your attention on OTHER women and becoming GOOD with them.

Develop a spirit of a free man who talks to women, has a lot of women in his life and is a generally confident
cool guy.

Then she will notice you on HER OWN.

YOU will catch HER eye.

She will stalk YOU on fb.

And all you'll have to say one day is "Hey...what's up?" and you'll have the conversation going.

Again, one-itis is a bitch if you let it rule you. Most guys will, I'm asking you don't be one of them.

Develop yourself, and she will come to you.

Hope this helps,

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thanks a lot for a constructive reply. Your approach does make sense . I do chat up all the counter girls and ladies, I just kept distant from the other girls because I wanted to focus on my course .... when I talk with girls, im charming to them and I have to get rid of them as they start wanting long-time term, something I'm not after with them.... . I don't know if it makes sense but I'm cool with other girls, this one cooks my brain, I just stop being me and start planning strategies, as the title suggests fear of failure maybe. But your approach makes sense, although it is very time consuming, but hopefully will be worth it .... I can't believe I just let her pass me today all alone.... she was looking down and I just didn't know what to say.... would be completely different with another girl

So from tomorrow, I will be adding as many women to my life as there are raindrops outside (not literally) lol
so I'm assuming, I let her be for a while ... until she notices me
any other advise? Precautions or comments

Sorry to be a bit contrarian but the solution isn't to ignore her.

I do agree with the above poster that you SHOULD be approaching other women but you will also need to approach THIS one.

Take action. GO and fucking talk to her. She's on your course - so if you see her outside of class, simply stroll up and start a conversation "Hey you're in my xyz class. You're the one that's ALWAYS doing her nails".

Make a joke. Laugh with her. But don't stalk her facebook profile sending friend requests - TAKE ACTION.

Phantom is right. As a long term solution you should be doing those things. Being that cool confident guy everyone is happy to see will make life easier.

But you still have to talk to her, so yeah, throw a challenge her way. See if her humor is compatible with yours.

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