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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:21 am 
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Okay, so first I'll begin with a quick summarization of who I am:

1. I'm a 17 year old Senior in high school.
2. I'm a little on the short side, but I enjoy that, so don't take it the wrong way.
3. I'm a two-time national qualifier in debate and forensics in the National Forensics League, so I'm not shy when talking to or in front of people.
4. I feel like I'm smarter than most my age.
5. I've only had one girlfriend, ever. I broke up with her early December. (She's completely crazy now.) The relationship lasted a little over 9 months.
6. I don't generally have problems when it comes to the approach.
7. Most of my friends would be considered what I suppose you would call PUAs.
8. I have three phone numbers of girls I would actually consider texting.
9. All are in relationships currently.
10. I'd like to actually get out in the casual dating scene.

Okay, so now I'll begin actually explaining the problem. I've only told four of my closest friends this, but I feel like it may help the problem should I simply come out with it. In fourth grade, I was diagnosed as severely clinically depressed, in seventh, with ADHD, and just recently, with bipolar disorder. I take no medication as my parents are extremely opposed to it. To me, however, it's something I have a hard time formulating my own opinion on. Anyway, I'm not sure if this hurts my chances of getting with girls, but I hope this forum can help me with it regardless. Some days I'm the most confident, outgoing, happiest person you could ever meet, others, I'm the quiet asshole that sits off in the corner. Luckily it's more common for me to be the first. The main problem I seem to have, at least to my knowledge, is that I literally find myself incapable of figuring in how to ask for a girl's number, or how to capitalize on that when the rare occasion that I do comes around. Most girls tell me I'm extremely charming, even better with my word choice, and everyone considers me as one of the funniest people in school. It doesn't generally come up in conversation, but with the few girls I've tried to date, they've always told me that I'm cute, hot, all the generic shit. For some reason though, I can't ever get around being a friend. I'm 98% the problem is in my technique, but I don't know what it is, or even how to explain it. I don't really have a concrete technique, I'm a pretty "In the moment" kind of guy, so I'm not sure what to say there.

Alrighty, that's about all I can think of now. If you need any other information, just reply. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:00 pm 
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Hi Taylor,

Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you're trying to attract girls that already know you right?

If so I would say this: It's harder to get numbers and go on dates with girls that already know you as a friend. I would suggest you sarge and meet new girls who don't know you. You might meet them in the street or at a shopping centre (whatever suits you).

You are young and I don't know how experienced you are and there is a lot to consider so I can't really give you comprehensive advice, but with regard to asking for a number, it's pretty simple really. If you're having a good conversation and all seems to be going well (ie IOIs, jokes, playfulness, etc) just jump in and ask for her number as though it's the most natural thing in the world to do. For example you could smile, look into her eyes and say something like:

"Hey, it's been great talking to you, we should meet up again."

Or you could be slightly more forceful/"alpha" and say:

"Hey, it's been great talking, we should meet up again, give me your number and let me take you out."

Both work well for me but then again you can say anything, the important thing is HOW you say it.

By this I mean: to ask at a high point in the conversation when she has positive feelings about you, project your voice, stand tall, have good body language, smile, and maintain eye contact. All these will demonstrate confidence. It would also be good for you to talk a little after getting the number so she remembers you for more than asking for her number.

I hope this may help and I wish you good luck :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:42 pm 
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That's the best advice I've received yet, not that I've gone around asking. Thanks though, I'll be sure to give it a shot. Living in a small town may make that a little more difficult though. I'll try to update when I get some news!

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:16 am 
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Sexuality. Make sure you're transmiting some sexual vibes.

When I was in highschool I always used to joke around with my female colleagues with stuff like:
"Hey Jessica , that tshirt looks horrible on you. Look me up later and maybe I'll help you take it off."
or
"Hey Alexa , why you in such low spirits ? your bf not pleasing you again ?I told you I could teach him some stuff"
or
"Wow,Andreea , look at you. You finally decided to start being sexy ?"

Now ,to state the obvious , for this to work you need some levels of comfort / attraction. And it has to be in tone with your personality. You can easily sound like a HUGE asshole with stuff like this if you're not careful how you say it. Cocky funny is my way of doing things because I enjoy it the most and it suits me. Might not work for everyone though.

I'm gonna say it again,to be sure you understand this: It required some level of attraction / comfort.

Again,this only works on girls you've known for some time. Don't go up to a stranger pulling one of this unless you like being slapped in the face.

I had a friend who liked this girl from day 1 highschool to the very last day. He ended up SO deep in the friendzone we couldn't even see him anymore. This is exactly why. He never transmited any form of sexual vibe.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:02 am 
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So, for a quick backstory about the situation, I'm gonna do a little explaining.
First, I am still VERY new to the PUA world, but I'm loving it. I've been studying, reading, testing, and repeating all of it pretty much daily. Some of the material on here fascinates me, not to mention, hitting on a girl every now and then doesn't hurt. But, like I said, I'm still VERY new, and I have a few problems.

First problem, that crazy ex I talked about in my last post? Yeah, she still won't leave me alone. I've seriously tried EVERYTHING that has come to my mind to get her to leave me alone, but she isn't having it. She always comes back, begging and pleading and pissing me off.
Any suggestions?

Anyway, and this is what I REALLY hope to get addressed, my second problem is that I recently did a little testing via cyber game, and it worked. REALLY WELL. I sent the girl (easily HB8 - 9) a quick message on facebook, and literally, her very next message consisted of asking me for my number. BLEW MY MIND. My ex is a 3-4 MAX, so immediately I had a little hope.
Correction, a LOT of hope. Anyway, it's been a little over a day since this happened, but I've already hit a major bump in the road. I CAN'T TEXT. Now, things should get a little easier when insurance pays off and I can buy myself a car, but I won't be driving for another 3-5 days or so. I'll post the conversation so far, but keep in mind, I've found that I'm better with natural, face to face game. Expect this to be a little ridiculous.

(Yesterday)

(Five minutes or so following the number exchange online)
9:44 PM HB: Hey its juls!!!

9:49PM Me: Julie!! I'm guessing you know who this is...

9:50PM HB: Of course lol. So how are you doing?!

9:52PM Me: I'm pretty good, actually! Lol, what about you?!

10:18PM HB: Thats good to hear im doing fine! cant believe u remeber me lol (Sidenote: She transferred out of my school 2 years ago, we were both in debate)

10:27PM Me: Hell yeah! Of course I do! I had tons of fun with you in debate and that Honors English class! (Another sidenote: I have selective photographic memory, so I remember faces/names easily.)

10:31PM HB: Lol dude i remember that time we made stories out of drawings on the bus to our competition!

10:33PM Me: I know! All of us seniors STILL talk about that.

No reply. :/

Today, I didn't fare much better...

3:01PM Me: Juls!!!

3:11PM HB: Hey whats up dudeeee??

3:12PM Me: About to go shoot some shit! You?

3:18PM HB: Lol that sounds like fun i love shooting shit. Im just gettin ready for work you know daily routine lol

3:27PM Me: Oh hell yeah! I'm actually in between jobs right now. (One more sidenote: In case you haven't noticed, we're both in high school, so that's not a huge deal.)

3:29PM HB: Where were you workin? I make pizzas:/ lol

3:33PM Me: A place out of town. I sold meat. Had to quit for debate. Lol

3:37PM HB: Lol meaaaaattt. Yeah id say debate would be a lot more fun haha

3:42PM Me: Hell yeah! It was too. I wasn't missing state for that shit.

Again, no reply. Any suggestions for how/when to restart a conversation? Plus, once I do, how could I go about keeping it going? I'd really like to make this work. She's gorgeous, and I had a bit of a thing for her when she still went to my school. She's only 15 minutes away now, so, like I said, when I get a car again, this won't be as big of a deal.

Any help is appreciated!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:55 pm 
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sounds to me like you are not escalating enough to keep her interested. all you are doing there is making conversation. make some subtle sexual references. get her thinking about you as not a friend but as a lover. once you plant a seed, or some seeds if she's really that dense, it will grow and you will be the only thing on her mind.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:51 am 
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UPDATE:
Ran into her while I was out screwing around with some friends. Apparently, she really wants to do something Saturday. I'm WAY better at talking to people face to face (I still need some practice escalating, but talking is NO problem for me.) but I have a few questions that are probably relatively dumb.
1. Should this be with mutual friends, or alone? Keep in mind, that a lot of the friends we have in common would still be from around where I love, and I'm doubtful she's seen any of the, recently.
2. If we do something with friends, it's probably gonna be a bonfire. What are so,e good ways to escalate in an environment like this, and how could I use the bonfire/cold weather to my advantage. I know a lot of that's obvious, but I want to make sure I cover my bases.
3. If we do something alone, what should it be? I don't want her to feel like I'm rushing her into a girlfriend-like role or something, as I apparently tend to do that. (I've been told by previous attempted relationships)
4. Good ways to kino-escalate if she's a bit taller than I am? I actually hadn't seen her in a while, or realized how tall she was until today. Rather than letting this discourage me, I'd like to try to find a way to use this to my advantage.
5. (These ones are a bit more generic) How should I:
A. Hint to friends/her that I'm interested? Don't get me wrong, I love my friends, but a couple of them are kind of assholes when it comes to this. Regardless of whether or not I tell them, they decide it doesn't matter.
B. Escalate without coming across as weird or creepy?
C. (With friends again) How should I keep from ignoring my friends, but still get the point across that I'm interested and let her know my intentions?
D. I SHOULD be picking her up, on my own, that night, so how could. Used that to my advantage?

Alright, now before I just start writing random thoughts and other stupid crap, I just want to quickly thank everyone on this forum. You guys are great, and some of the content on this site has changed my life and my outlook of it. Since I started visiting frequently, I became more confident, more positive, have gotten more out of life, and have been having TONS more fun. (For example, I asked for a girl working at Taco Bell's number today while screwing around with friends, I didn't get it, but it was funny as hell to everyone present.) But seriously, this means more to me than another possible relationship, or another possible hookup, this is something totally new to me, and something that I'll never forget.


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