There are dozens of first date threads on this site, so I thought we could try to rank first date ideas based on how likely they are to be accepted by the woman and lead to positive outcomes (be it sex or a second date or whatever).

Not like a definitive ranking since that would be too hard to agree on, but perhaps tiers. I wanna hear if you guys agree with the tiers I came up with, or if I left out any particularly good date ideas or famously

1st Tier: Pretty much always works. This is the most important tier for us to focus our attention on. Should anything else be here with grab a drink?
Grab a drink - This is a fun, acceptable date to probably 90% of women and of course helps you get laid. Only con is that it's quite over done. In my opinion no other date activity should be in tier one.

2nd Tier: Mostly good date ideas. Will depend on the woman you're trying to score with and your PUA skillz. Would say there's like a 40-75% chance of the date being accepted AND leading to a positive outcome.
Ice skating - Fun, somewhat adventurous, and not too expensive.
Mini golf
Casino - See ice skating
Art galleries
Hiking - Could go in tier 4 if you try to take her to some deserted area. The suggestion alone would probably creep her out.
Wine tasting
Pool/billiards - I dunno, maybe this is more tier 3. Is pool cool?
Browse cool shops - Maybe also a tier 3. Depends on how cool the shops are
Touristy stuff - I live in NYC so there's a lot of this. Walk the highline, hang in central park, eat at Katz's deli, etc.

3rd Tier - Mixed bag. Maybe a 30-60% chance of acceptance and positive outcome.
Go karting - fun but maybe hard to get to know them and build attraction.
Comedy show - See go karting
Laser tag
Basketball
Indoor rock climbing
Shooting range - could give a woman bad vibes and get bumped down to tier 4. But will be fun and exciting.
Coffee - Strong opinions on the forum about this one. It's cheap and quick. Kinda boring, but good to get to know the other person and size them up.
Dinner - Could go in tier 2, but is in tier 3 because it's expensive, and a lot of people don't like getting asked out to dinner on the first date because they're afraid they won't like the person and then be stuck with them for 2 hours.
Go for a walk - will depend on the location you choose. Like coffee, it can be seen as boring.

4th Tier - Basically bad date ideas that people actually do. I would avoid tier 4 stuff if you care a little bit about succeeding.
Movie dates
Ice cream - I actually used to think this was a decent date idea. It's quick cheap and tasty. However I've been told it's kind of creepy and kind of boring. Plus I got rejected both times I've tried this.
Your place - If you meet her on Tinder and your game is strong, this could be a tier 1 date idea. I would bet that most guys have trouble getting desirable women to come straight to their place. I've succeeded with this only a couple times, but in general I only do this when I don't care at all if I succeed.

Thanks for this list. As for Tier 1 which I am doing Friday it was an easy pick. It's an up market wine bar and she loves her wine. Can't go wrong. But the tier 2 and above stuff can be picked once i know her better, so ideal to look into for 2nd dates. For 2nd dates I tent to go for the weekend away option but that's just me and depends on the girl

The best 1st tier is not getting a drink. That is just so basic and played out. It's almost just a pickup line to get a girl's number. "Hey, can I get your number and maybe we can grab a drink sometime?" I mean I realize people actually do go and get drinks together, but talk about not setting yourself apart from the rest of the crowd.

Anyhow, the BEST 1st tier date idea is the one that she's never heard of, has never done, is only a one time deal, is extremely unique, etc. A guy on here was talking about how some other dude took his girl out flying a plane on their 1st date. You literally can't beat that. It's original, its expensive, its pure DHV, its exciting, its once in a lifetime thing for most people.

Guys need to be thinking along those lines if they really want to do some impressive 1st dates.

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Totally bad advice. If you're going to empty your bank account to impress a girl, then you're doing it all wrong. You are compromising your financial well being for a person you barely know and who hasn't earned your trust and commitment yet.

The best date to get to know a woman better before you blow away your entire life savings is the one that doesn't look like a date at all: the instadate. After the instadate and you think the girl is worth getting to know better by breaking down her psychological walls, you pull her home and have sex with her.

Once the girl has proven her worth as a good team mate in running your own family, you spend a portion of your life savings on her as your gratitude to her for being such an extraordinary person who meets your wants and needs despite your flaws. A woman should be your human team mate in building up your networth (and your future family if that's your goal); not an expensive sex toy where you risk it all for busting your cum once or twice.

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Sure, take her skydiving on a first date. Lol.

Drinks are quite possibly the best date. You're out to get to know each other, you can escalate, you don't have to worry about side bullshit and you're having a relaxing drink while at it.
Stating that it's overdone is not an argument against it. Women are not looking for uniqueness in context, but in content. Her primary interest should be you, not the activity she gets to experience you in.

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If you think a dates effectiveness hinges on being expensive, ninja, you don't understand pickup.

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Exactly. For first dates I tend to do things that I know they enjoy. This one likes her wine so it was a wine bar. Girl before that had a love for live music, so it was a gig etc. I avoid the cinema at all costs, but once had a girl who insisted on it. We were seeing eachother for a bit but didn't get a proper connection so I had to next her. If they change the date plan to cinema, I will next them.
In my eyes a date is an invite by a man who sets the agenda, while agreeing an activity is a hangout.

Spending big to get the girl can give off the signal that you will have loads of money to spend on her, and will expect it all the time. My own father went through this and when the money tap tightened, she left him.

Well, evidently the guy who took the girl piloting a plane never even got a second date out of it, so that should tell you something. I mean I agree with the fundamentals of what you guys are saying, but I wasn't necessarily talking about expensive date ideas. That's only one factor that might make it a memorable date. The originality was mainly what I was encouraging people to go for.

My standard tier is dinner and a movie. Build rapport at dinner and escalate during the movie. It's a good one two punch. But now that I'm older I guess I have more fanciful and romantic aspirations where I take this girl out on this magical date that's memorable and special. It's not always about the risk/reward cost analysis of financial outlay vs. probability of getting laid. Sometimes you might actually want to have a cool unique date that both you and the girl really enjoy and whatever happens from there happens.

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