LESSONS LEARNT:

I just want to say that I've picked up on a LOT of really good suggestions on the last page and in this thread in general. Please don't be disheartened if not EVERY SINGLE THING doesn't get applied. It's a lot to digest, and there are certain pieces of advice that have to be adapted to fit my overall style. I honestly don't think I've received any bad advice in this thread whatsoever, but like I say, everything has to be contextualised in pick-up and, well, life in general.

- My experience is that pick-up lines generally don't work...but, that experience is limited.
- Try to identify and avoid total bitches with no self-esteem.
- Be present: when an opportunity presents itself, you've got to seize it now or never. Eckhart Tolle, Power of Now.
- Persistence: don't give up at the first hurdle, or the second hurdle...maybe give up after the third...
- Awareness: be aware of the mood/vibe you're receiving, what's in your surroundings, what this girl is wearing, what she's doing, what people around her are doing, etc., etc.
- Objective self-analysis: maybe do voice recordings?
- Timing, context, logistics and non-verbal communication. Are you in broad daylight surrounded by judgemental strangers or is it pitch-black at a time when the girl might think you're a mass-murdering rapist psychopath?

Thanks to ChocolatePUA for the below:
- Micro-escalation: build comfort AND attraction.
- Direction: TELL HER she's coming for coffee (this is one I've got to start putting into practice: "coffee...right now...let's go!" ) then turn in the direction you're going. This way, you are being direct verbally AND non-verbally, I like.
- Make her feel that YOUR time is valuable, and you are gifting HER with it (e.g. hey, can't speak long, only got a minute, but...)
- Peacocking: tried it once discreetly, it is in consideration. Maybe try it more often.

And more gems from MichDuch also:
- Use a wider variety of more interesting opinion openers (I'm still trying to find a free version of the Magic Bullets PDF, or if I can just get the specific information from it that I want. Hope this doesn't sound too stingy).
- Inner game and non-verbal actually require more work than I previously thought. Don't get too hung up on verbal, conversation should flow naturally following a confident approach.

Unfazed (first comment in my journal, thanks mate, any advice is much appreciated):
- Don't compliment on looks this gives too much (sexual) power to the woman. Emotionally stimulate a girl instead. I'll add to this, that instead of complimenting directly (i.e. "you look hot"), during day game I've recently started making remarks based on style (see the post below this one), or what the girl's doing, etc. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

Again, thanks guys and just to recapitulate, no advice falls on deaf ears, just trying to figure out a way to put everything into play!

DAY GAME 16/04/2015

Armed with my peacock jacket, the focuses highlighted above and an excellent youtube video advising how to give compliments, I was ready to hit the town once more, grab a nice strong black coffee and croissant, enjoy the sunshine and approach beautiful women.

#APPROACH 1: The Swansea Nightmare

So I saw two HBs 9/10 walking, one was brunette one was blonde. The blonde was wearing black jumper and black jeans that I actually thought was a little tacky but she also had a French logo across her jumper, giving me something to use:

ME: Excuse me [D'OH], I just have to say I absolutely love the fact you've got French writing on you...
HER: ...Oh, thank you...
ME (walking backwards at her pace, slowly turning around): ...Not like me, I'm just a plain old boring Englishman.
HER: Haha.
As we are exchanging glances and I'm looking at this highly beautiful and sincere face, I'm beginning to wonder ... is this actually happening? My heart begins to beat faster and then...I notice the group of people behind her start to swarm together like a herd of broody hens and as I realise she is with her family I'm starting to wonder if first I have to marry the family to get with the girl...
ME:...so what are you up to?
The bee's hive behind us start to change direction headed over to a lovely eaterie with a pleasant view that I've been to myself on occasion.
HER: Oh, not much just on an outing with my family.
Pressure kicks in and I'm resorting to small talk, ok what to do? What to do? I know: I'll try the "take me to location XYZ" routine...
ME: Do you happen to know where XYZ is?
HER: Oh no, I'm not from around here.
Oh dear, botched attempt at one of my few useful routines in this scenario, surrounded by a herd of fat ugly chavs and the infamous small talk trap is lurking...
ME: Soo...where you from?
HER: Swansea.
ME (not sure if I heard right): Swansea?
Her friend shouts over:
HER FRIEND: Hey come over this way, we're thinking of eating here.
I'm considering calling it quits at this point and looking for a tactile method of retreating, dignity in tact but her friend offers no such solution.
HER FRIEND looking at me, negative attitude: She's not interested!? ... She has a boyfriend!?
As I'm walking past her friend I can see the ring of white between her red lips and fake tan and I'm just glad this girl isn't the one I chose to approach.
ME trying to keep my cool, keeping her eye contact, tilting my chin up: Oh...right...

ME: what I was tempted to say condescendingly, but thought better of: Ok, don't be upset that I didn't approach you, you're hot too.

When I went for my costa coffee and baguette I was tempted to approach a girl on the table across the room, but glad that I decided against when I saw her boyfriend walking past. That said I had the perfect line to use on the waitress, obviously new, conscientiously and diligently putting away all the used cups and sweeping all the nooks and crannies. Now her, I SHOULD have approached.

Outside, on the way to one of my preferred pick-up locations, the nearby shopping mall I felt the presence
of someone walking behind me. I look behind, HB 7/10. Ok she hasn't noticed my subtle glance, so I make another glance to gauge if there's anything about her I can use to approach with. Does that jumper have teddy bears? No...wait...she has a jumper with hearts on ... good enough:

ME: Hey, I like the style...the hearts...very romantic.
HER: Huh...oooh! Thank you!
ME (awkward part kicks in): Sooo what you doing?
HER: Oh, I'm going to the bank.
ME: Oh, you're going to the bank?
HER: Yes, the bank.
ME: *awkwardly shuffling away like nothing has happened*

Oh well, she seemed to like the opener at least. Next stop, outside the shopping mall. I'm looking around but I'm not seeing anyone that's very approachable. I walk around a bit. I see a HB 6/10 from a distance she looks a 7 and she is kind of turned away at a side angle from me. She's got a pretty bland jacket but scarlet red hair and colourful indian designs on her trousers. The kind made from a thin fabric but I can't remember what they're called. They're kind of like pyjama trousers and as I get closer she's got a scarf underneath her jacket. Ok, time to cut to the chase...

ME: Hey I'm liking the colours...
HER (confused glance and saying very little):...Huh?...
ME: I'm liking the colours...very vibrant...
HER (confused glance/icy cold stare):....
ME: I said I'm liking the colours. Very vibrant personal touch.
Ok, I can see now that her face is coated in thick layers of make-up to cover up her acne scars. I'm beginning to feel repulsed on multiple sensory levels: physical and emotional.
ME thumbs pointing towards my own jacket: Great minds think alike, right?
HER: ...
ME: Ok, I'm gonna go now...awkward!

So no numbers, no dates far. But on the plus side I've refined my approach a little, did what I said I was gonna do and mix up direct with indirect. Also took on board chocolate PUAs advice and popped on something a little peacocky. I can't say I don't have second thoughts about doing this, but it got a compliment, so I can't have looked that freaky, even if the guy was trying to sell me something! I'm thinking, I'm just gonna go back home at this point but if I see an good looking set that is logistically approachable on the way back I'll make a move...and I do.

I see two girls, HB 7 and HB 6. The HB 7 has a little dog, green hair and colourful clothes. HB 6 has a pink t-shirt, medium-length blonde hair and carrying a little bit of weight, but it's no biggie. As I get closer, I get closer, I can see only some of her hair is green. As I get even closer I can see she has dark hair and a green beret, not green hair. HB 7 is a little freckly but still cute. Ok, so at this point, I'm moving in, possibly taking the girls by surprise, I'm not really sure...

ME (getting down low to pet the dog, but keeping eye contact with the girls): Such a cute dog...and what a great style, all those colours. Totally vivacious.
HB 6 & 7 (can't really remember what they say): Oh, thank you...I like you're style too.
ME (petting the dog I can see they've got converse all stars, and the HB7 has some of those massive ear rings that I personally don't like): So what are you girls, skaters?
HB 6: No! What makes you think that?
ME: Oh, I don't know just the converse chuck taylors?
HB 6: Oh! Well, I guess you could kinda call us skaters but we're not really. We're all about the vans and [insert brand I haven't heard of]
ME: Huh? oh right, yeah the vans, the vans.

awkward silence

ME: ...soo, what's his name?
HB 6: He? It's a she!
ME: ...Aah, yeah I can see now [D'OH]

awkward silence

HB 7: ...Well, her name's Rosie.
ME: Ah, awesome. Yeah, really cute dog...
HB 7: Umm...how far back did you actually see the dog from?
ME (trying to be smooth):Oh, just saw him back there and, you know how it is: I simply HAD to stop and say what a cute dog ... listen can I ask you girls what you're doing? Are you in a bit of a rush...?
HB 6 & 7: ...Well, kinda ... we're headed to the train station but we've gotta minute...

Now I've got a few options available, I can use the *can you show me XYZ routine* but they're headed to the train station and I actually make the mistake at this point of looking in that direction.

Alternatively, I can dig straight in to an opinion opener, but I don't really see it as necessary when we are already making some convo and I can use that at a later point anyway.

Similarly, I don't want to ask their number because it's too direct PLUS it's wasting time if I can go on a date right now.

So I ask her if she want's to go grab a coffee...

HB 7: Well we could but we're kinda in a rush ...
ok, something I should have considered
...plus we've got the dog anyway, so we can't...
another thing I should have considered, although I could have been like..."ice cream?" "Hot dog stand?" If i'd been thinking on my feet...
ME: Ahhh...yeah...
HB 6: ...Sorry, I'm a little confused which one of us are you actually hitting on?
ME trying to think how to respond: ...
HB 7 filling in awkward silence: ...Umm...well I actually have a boyfriend, so...
ME: Ahh, I see.
HB 6: ...
ME: ...Ok, cool, so uh how long have you had it for?
HB 6: What, the boyfriend or the dog?
ALL OF US, LAUGHING, THEN ANOTHER PREGNANT PAUSE
HB 7: Well, 3 years, actually...
ME (shuffling away): Ah, I see. Well, anyway that's nice, and uh, nice to speak to you and, uh...I have to go, bye,
HBS 6 & 7: Bye.

SELF-ANALYSIS:

- Need to think quicker on my toes with my responses,
- Need to navigate the shit tests a bit quicker,
- Need to get more interesting opinion openers (still!)

Bro, you don't need more interesting patterns or opinions openers or whatever, you need to learn how to have a normal conversation... Great job with actually approaching and all that, but you should concentrate on basic conversation vibing. All your conversations are very value-seeking... aka you're asking the girl to come up with the material for the conversation, you're depending on the girl to come up with interesting things to say. YOU need to be the one leading the conversation in the first couple of minutes. Example:

You: Where are you off to?
Her: The bank.
You: (Instead of oh, cool. conversation dies...) (sarcastically) That sounds like so much fun. Lollipops from the bank rock, though.
Her: Haha, yeah i like lollipops.
You: Pretty sure watermelon is the best flavor. Is it weird that I hate licorice?
Her: *something about watermelon or licorice*

The format should not be:

You: question
Her: answer

repeat until awkwardness ensues

It should be:

You: statement or opinion
Her: statement or opinion based on what you said
You: statement or opinion based on what she said

maybe with some questions thrown in. repeat ad infinitum

That would be how a normal conversation goes...

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Does it matter how random it sounds, I mean just say something about Pokemon or Metallica or something and try and fit that in with the fact she just said she comes from Swansea?

With the bank thing I was gonna say something like,

"oh so what you're gonna become the next executive or something like Bill Gates?"

(microsoft guy, I know but I don't know any famous/interesting bankers)

...but that only came to my head by the time she already left, you know. With my first line, at least I have some time to think what I'm gonna say...

The topic doesn't matter it's all in the delivery. If you appear spontaneous and just saying what you're thinking (what you should be doing), it'll be received well. I wrote a post about training yourself to be able to stay in the moment in a conversation and just say whatever comes up, but still maintain a good vibing flow. Check out my journal, it's a little while back and it starts off like:

Sticking point: You don't know what to say

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Good post, mate...Are you from uk? I should do some improv or something. Anyway, I'll cut and paste it here for future reference:

Just posted this on another thread, but I thought it'd be helpful for those who RUN OUT OF THINGS TO SAY:

Your sticking point: running out of things to say.

I used to have this problem. It's a cliche, but you can literally talk about anything. It's not about what you say (it is a little) but about HOW you say it. You can make a girl laugh just by saying hello the right way. You should never be running out things to say because your mind is constantly making thoughts, and those thoughts (trust me) are good enough to throw out there. ANYTHING is good enough to say. You can talk about the wall, you can talk about your grandma, about Finding Nemo, about anything. All that happens when you can't think of anything to say is, the other person detects this, thinks that you must think what you have to say isn't good enough (aka you don't think YOU're good enough) aka not confident. The best conversationalists don't think about what to say, they just say what comes to their mind confidently and with the right non-verbals. That being said, here's what you need to do to overcome this sticking point:

Practice by yourself. Watch great speakers and analyze how they do it (Louis CK is great. He will just riff on something and make up shit and it's funny as hell. If he can do it, you can)

In the beginning, practice word associations. Start with one word, then go to another word, and another, and another. Example: Book, Library, Harry Potter, wands, magic, magic the gathering, pokemon, video games, smash brothers, wishing I had a brother, my sister, family, Chinese food, etc. etc. etc.
You can start with ANY word. Look around you, find something, and just start. You can practice this anywhere.

After you get good at that, move on to actually talking about each of those. Word associate with the hook words in each sentence you give yourself, and move on to newer and newer topics. ANY topic will do. NOTHING is bad enough to not talk about. A good practice is to ask yourself if you LOVE it or if you HATE it, and why. Example: starting word: snail
I HATE snails. Snails are freaking slimy as shit. Did you know snails love beer? I was doing a summer research position where we caught them by filling trays with beer. They eat those in some cultures. I think in Chinese cultures they do. Pretty unfortunate. My aunt and uncle brought me out to a restaurant in China once, where they cooked and ate insect cocoons right in front me. I was 14 at the time, so I wasn't adventurous enough to try it. It's too bad they all live in China, etc. etc. etc. I just move on and on and vibe on each new word association.

Notice I'm adding value to the "conversation" (basically a soliloquoy). I'm not asking questions, I'm just sharing stories, opinions, and statements. I'm telling you this because I know you're a badass that actually takes action. So PRACTICE this!

Once you get good at that, practice conversation with normal people. In each sentence, they give you a hook. Or, you give yourself a hook to start word associating: Example (I'm purposely making the other person as bland as possible to show you I can converse with anyone and amuse myself- you should be able to as well)

Me: Hi
Her: Hi
Me: You seem rather miserable today *smirk*
Her: Oh.
Me: It seems like lightning struck your dog or something. You okay? I mean, I'd be upset if that happened to my dog too.
Her: *giggle* Yeah, that would suck.
Me: I have a yellow lab named Kiki.
Her: Cool.
Me: She's named after that Miyazaki movie, Kiki's Delivery Service. Have you seen it?
Her: No.
Me: *could start talking about that movie but instead decide that this girl is boring as shit and promptly leaves without telling her why*

Other example (can you identify all the hook words that you can word associate off of?)
Her: How are you?
Me: I'm fantastic, I had bacon this morning.
Her: Oh my god, I love bacon!
Me: I know, right, Canadians got something right.
Her: Except Bryan Adams
Me: FUCK Bryan Adams. My mom loves Bryan Adams, god save her soul.
Her: Your mom sounds like an amazing person.
Me: She cooks the most amazing dumplings.
blah blah blah, word associations to infinity that eventually ends in her getting obsessed with me and me breaking her heart because she didn't measure up to my standards

Another thing to practice: Anytime you catch yourself stopping and not saying something instead of saying it, ask yourself: If I said this, what would happen? (the correct answer: nothing. No matter how bad what you said is. I've said I love penis before. NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENS. People are like oh shit! for five minutes then go back to thinking about their own boring selves.) Next time, will I say it? (the correct answer: YES) You'll find that people will actually respect and admire you for speaking your mind, instead of looking down on you. Hope this helps!

Actually related to this are a few articles I read on creativity and conversation threading a while back. But I'm not gonna post them for now.

Ok, so I just put you're suggestions into play for online dating, so...

ONLINE GAME

"do you play magic horses?"

because the girl's picture is her on a magic roundabout

"you know you nee an invisibility cloak if you want to disappear"

because the girl said she is fed up of online dating and thinking about disappearing

"you're ana nimal lover...what are you dr dolittle?"

because...well, guess.

Actually, this is pretty standard material for my online game but in real life, I'm a lot slower to think of these things. I think maybe because too many things come to my head at once. Or maybe not enough things come to my head. I dunno, one way or the other...

Ok, so some more examples and see if you can give me any tips to apply this in real life, because this really is the way I want to converse in future and I really don't give a fuck if people judge me anymore...



#GIRL 1

ME: haha I can't tell if that's some kind of exercise bike or nursing arm chair in the background...or maybe you are a beautician and that is where I can get a pedicure
GIRL: Haha its neither and defo not a place to get a pedicure, its a photography studio and they were coat hangers behind me​
coat hangers? you get a lot of celeb superstars hanging up their fur coats before they get their picture done?


#GIRL 2:

are you like a mime superstar?
What?
you know...because mime artists wear stripy tops? or maybe you prefer the whole emo scene...
Or maybe I just prefer to wear something because I want to wear it?
ok don't take it personally or anything, it's just something called conversation
^think I will use that line more often
Pretty shitty way to start a conversation, but ok.​
what? making an interesting observation that can branch out into discussion topics ranging from mime artists to music?
nah you're just a bit of an airhead. taraa love Xx
Oh no what a shame. I bet I was missing out on a lot lmfao. Bye then, asshole.
*arsehole, you're not american
I thought you were leaving?
I'm actually pretty comfy where I'm sitting, no need to go anywhere

# Girl 3
are you on the top of a mountain top because it looks really windy!
Hey, haha no, this picture was taken in Antwerpen, but yeah, it was really windy, I wish I was on the top of a mountain! aha
why are you a mountain lion?
hahaah whaaat
chill just practicing a little theatrical improv

...soo how's the weather?
aha, okay, great! a lot of sun these days, it's nice, and at your place?
pretty nice in general.

not at the moment, though it's pitch black and a lot of scary gangsters roaming the streets on BMXs and demanding I buy hashish

NIGHT GAME APPROACH + NUMBER CLOSE 18/04/2015

Just been out, it's like quarter to one in the morning but Friday night/Saturday morning so loadsa people out still. Just got a number close, didn't bother walking into any clubs just used game on the streets.

ME (walking past HB7.5 in cute denim jacket with her mum/older lady): High heels, nice choice...fashion before comfort, right?
HER (can't really remember what she says): Thanks you're not bad either/Well that's not normally the case
ME (people dodging to speak to a fine lady): So where you out tonight?
HER: Oh, not sure really, you?
ME: Wherever my heart leads me.
HER: Haha...You out by yourself?
ME: Yeah sure, why not?
HER: Fair dos.
ME: ...Just chilling, enjoying the dance, the music...talking to beautiful girls...and their mum... her mum is kindly looking in the opposite direction
*I stop walking and take her hand.*
ME: What's your name?
HER: Blah, blah
ME: Oh I'm blah blah. Nice to meet you, can I get your number

She hesitates, then her mum says something to her and she agrees. Whether it's a real or not, I guess I'll have to wait and see...


Might go out again, one number ain't enough

Any text advice would be much appreciated btw fellahs.

Well I texted her anyways:

TEXT GAME

ME: This is a VIP number store with care

And just approached a few other girls, no more number closes, though

NIGHT GAME 18/04/2015
Dressed up in my suave red polka dot shirt and it's fucking freezing walking up and down the city centre high street. I go get some chips first and have a nice chicken donna kebab.

GIRL#1
ME: Fashion over comfort, eh?
HER (silly voice): Helloooo
ME (silly voice): Hellooo hows it going?

GIRL#2
ME: Hellooooo
HER: Hellooooo

GIRL#3
HER: OMG you're so sexxaaay
ME: Oh why thank you you're sexxaaay too.

GIRL#4&5
ME: Fashion over comfort, eh?
HB 8 (eastern European): What?
ME: The high heels...
HB 8: Oooh, yeah haha
GIRL 2 arrives - a HB 8 also - wearing a denim shirt
ME: Nice shirt I thought you were wearing a jacket or something
GIRL 2: Thanks...it's fucking freezing
ME: You just gotta stay warm
I jump up and down humorously, they copy - YES!
we talk, I am playing games with the pregnant pauses in the conversation. I do this a lot, gives me time to think what I'm going to say without looking too weak or anything. I find it funny but I know that it's also not an ideal situation.
ME: Eastern European right...?
GIRL 2: ...No!...
GIRL 1: Well...maybe
ME: ...Lithuania?...
GIRL 1: ...Yes, yes I am from Lithuania, well done.
ME: Seriously!? You're not fucking with me now, right?
GIRL 1 is probably fucking with me.
GIRL 1: No, no, I am not fucking with you I am from Lithuania.
GIRL 2: Well not me I'm just plain old boring English.
ME: Yeah, I think it's the strong Northern dialect.
GIRL 2: Ah yeah, *northern dialect*
for a moment the convo looks like it might pick up a bit then an old lady cuts in trying to sell flowers, we ignore her but she is pushy
GIRL 2: Oh, no thanks.
awkward silence, attention is focussed on me
ME: ...
ME (again): ... Uh, do you want a flower, a nice rose to decorate your bedroom?
please say no, please say no, please say no
GIRL 2: Oh no, I'm alright thanks.
thank god...flower lady is still pushing with the flowers, I know she's poor and she's got a job but can't she just fuck off?
ME (attempting to defuse the situation):...Oh, I don't want any flowers thanks, I'm a boy...
no one laughs
ME (turning to GIRL 1):...but that's not to say I don't have flowers on my desktop
GIRL 1 laughs politely, AWKWARDNESS ENSUES
LADY WITH FLOWERS: Yes but you can get flowers for girl.
guy walks past
DOUCHEBAG: I bet those girls would really LOVE a flower.

GIRL 2 walks away, I'm trying to see if I can salvage the situation get a number close...

THINK JHA91, THINK GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!!

GIRL 1 walks away AND...it's too late.

#GIRL 6, HB 8
ME (walking past): I like the black, very purposeful.
HB 8: Aw thanks, blah blah blah
ME: What you up to?
HB 8: Just getting something to eat I'm starving...I've had work all day today and work all day tomorrow...
ME (accidentally interrupting with lame line): What? But how are you going to have any room for breakfast!?
DOUCHEBAG ON STREET: Pfffft
DOUCHEBAG ON STREET is ignored
HB 8 (politely laughing): Haha, yeah I've had work all day today and work all day tomorrow...
can't remember what happens next but I inevitably eject as she goes to cue up for hotdogs

...And I called it a night with one number-close and an additional 5 botched approach attempts. I should have probably tried to get more number-closes. It's just I'm trying to put focus on keeping that conversation ball rolling a bit longer. I should have probably also pressed a little harder to buy flowers, it's just it's not really my style to buy stuff for women. Maybe I could have gone about defusing the situation a bit better, I dunno...

"I don't buy girls flowers, I'm a feminist - girls can buy flowers for themselves"

Or maybe that would come across as douchey, I dunno...Shoulda probably just bought a goddamn rose.

Oh yeah text back - "Only just got this message I was drunk, etc. how was your night"

Thinking how to reply. Hope she is not one of those, 'men must wait for a day before they reply' type of girls.

Ok, so I thought fuck texting I'm gonna call but first up I decided to get some advice round town for my date, if you get what I'm saying If not, then keep reading and you will see.

DAY GAME 18/04/2015

Weather was luke warm, so thought I'd take a stab at day game before it got too late (six-ish when I went out). Saw a girl in a pink top and fuschia jeans, she's got a leather jacket and a hoop in her ear...kinda chavvyish but hey you can't judge a book by it's cover...

ME: I like the matching colours
HB 8: ...OK?
ME: Yeah you look like someone who puts a lot of thought into there appearance[BS]
HB 8: Yeah...Ok?
ME trailing off and slinking off: ...Ok.
HB 8: Hahaha, ok.

GIRLS #2&3

Outside the library I see two girls on a park bench, one is wearing a black leather jacket. No awesome line comes to mind but I begin to walk over. Just as I'm doing so they get up to leave where they're sitting and I'm about to call it quits when the girl I was approaching seems to shoot me a flirtatious side ways glance. I shoot the look back but then her glance turns negative so I drop the smile and raise an eyebrow but trying to keep the situation humorous if possible and walk around her.

ME: I like the black, gives you a sense of purpose.
HB 7: What?
ME: The leather jacket...I'm the same.
HB 7 (something like): This is the reaction you're gonna get staring at people
ME: What? You were staring at me!
HB 7: No I wasn't!
ME: Yeah, I swear from over there you looked like you were giving me the eye!
HB 7 (starting to laugh): No way! I thought you were giving me the eye...aren't you a little old to be approaching anyways? I mean you look like 30.
ME: 30!? What?
HB 7: How old?
ME: ...23!
HB 7: ...I knew that!
ME: Yeah right. How old are you?
HB 7: 17
ok I thought she would be a little older than that
ME: ...well...17, that's...uh
two guys appear at this stage, knights in shining armour - a big asian lad and a short skinny white lad with blonde hair. I'm fucked.
DOUCHEBAG A: You got a problem?
ME (assertively): No...why?
DOUCHEBAG A:...oh, uh...no reason
HB 7: He's ok, he's ok.
ME: You going out with her?
DOUCHEBAG A: No, no.
DOUCHEBAG B walks around her and holds her waist
DOUCHEBAG B: No, but I am.
ME: Oh, right?
HB 7's facial expression indicates different but the skinny tyke looks aggressive and I'm not about to risk a fight.
DOUCHEBAG B: Yeah.
HB 7 rolls her eyes at me but she doesn't take the guy's hand off.
ME can't believe what I'm about to say: So...uh...can I get your opinion on something?
HB 7: My opinion? On what?
ME: Well...uh...I've got a date tonight and I'm wondering what the best things to do are...I want to do something interesting but not too expensive
HB 7 interjecting: Frankie and Bennies...wait what's your budget
ME: Cheap.
HB 7: Frankie and Bennies
ME: what that's expensive that's like £20 for a pizza this thin
some chit chat and some of the guys chime in with suggestions of their own, a little banter but some awkwardness and douchebag b keeps his arms around the girl, kissing her neck and stuff. douchebag a also asks "how old" the girl I'm dating will be so I say my age, 20ish. eventually I eject having avoided a fight. This PUA shit is scary sometimes.

GIRLS #4&5

ME: I like the black
MILF, 8/10: ...Oh?
ME: Yeah it gives you a sense of purpose.
MILF 8: Oh right.
ME (people dodging): I'm the same.
MILF 8: Ok.
ME: So what you doing?
MILF 8 (clearly not interested): We're about to meet some friends.
ME (I stop walking, hoping she will stop too): Oh right cool. Can I get you're opinion on something?
MILF 8 I have surprised her and she slows down a little but not completely: ...European...yeah.
ME calling after her in comical fashion: No...opinion! ...Opinion! ... DAMN!

Ok, so after this I decide to call it a day and use my newly found dating advice in a call to HB 7.5 from the other night.

I am going to say,

Hey, how's it going, it's XYZ from the other night...listen, can I get your opinion on something? What shirt should I wear to our date?

Then I will talk about what date I've got lined up etc. or just respond to her reaction or whatever.

But she doesn't pick up, it goes to voicemail, so I just say

Hey, how's it going, it's XYZ from the other night...can I get your opinion on something really quick?

But it comes out a little nervey, so I send a back up text:

Check your voicemail Im looking for an opinion on something Xx

Hope she gets back.

"NIGHT GAME" 18/04/2015

Just been out again, PUA is a time-consuming hobby! I do actually have a life outside of it though so don't worry. Yeah, anyways, just been out with no real expectations: mainly just scouting the area to see what's happening, grab a coffee, etc. I saw a girl that I've already approached, she thought it was funny and last time I approached her she seemed kinda interested. But my mind was distracted because some guy was being a douchebag trying to give me a fright, it was kinda lucky he didn't get too close because these sort of things set my reactions off and I can land a reverse heel kick to the head. Not that I'm bragging or anything, I always avoid fights and I don't think I'm hard or aggressive or anything. Just saying people don't realise what the risks are with this kind of behaviour.

Anyways,

#GIRL 1

I see a girl in black walking up a ramp, we exchange glances over the wall. Her expression seems kind of flirtatious (pfft who knows, maybe I am misinterpreting) so I approach as she comes around the corner. I think I manage to alarm her with my cold approach though - not really my intent! My intent is to be direct and sexy but not psychopath.

I drop the same old, "I like that you're wearing black, black is purposeful line" - as I'm closer I notice she has a cast around her arm and a jogger runs past me. What she is wearing she looks like she's just been for a run. She doesn't hear straight away so she takes her headphones out (I really hate having to repeat, it just doesn't have the same effect).

HER, smiling politely: Sorry?

I repeat my line.

HER: Oh, thanks (or something)

She is walking away, so I pursue a little bit,

ME: I just saw you and you seem kinda cute, so I had to stop and say hi
HER: Hi

Ok now I realise this is coming across as creepy as I'm following her so I stop in my tracks to try and reassure her

ME: Are you alright?
HER: Yeah yeah

I think she is reassured that I'm not a serial rapist but she seems to want to get along with whatever it is she's doing so I let her.

GIRL # 2

Ok, she's in black but I don't want to use the same old 'black is purposeful line'. She puts her cigarette out on a bin and then as she turns around I make my approach

ME: Fuschia pink, nice
HER: What?
ME: Just saying, I'm liking the style
HER (eyes rolling): Oh right. And what about my style do you like
ME: Oh you know just the stillettos...the classy dress...the handbag...
she is walking around me and doesn't look impressed
ME:...BLACK. I like the black, it gives you a sense of purpose you know...
for the first time she looks interested and starts to say something but I make the mistake of finishing my line
ME...I'm the same, you know. When you wear black it always looks like you're going somewhere.
HER: Yeah, that's right: over there
she signals to where she's walking and I stop
ME (pointing to ground in front of me): ...But you could come right here.
HER: Nope.
ME (slight chuckle): ...Alright.

Think I made a third approach but can't really remember how it went. Maybe it will come back to me. Oh well, the horny girls at midnight will be a little more receptive.

Damn my text-girl hasn't replied. Should have just texted something normal, now I look like a fucking creep.

"NIGHT GAME" 18/04/2015

Just been out again, PUA is a time-consuming hobby! I do actually have a life outside of it though so don't worry. Yeah, anyways, just been out with no real expectations: mainly just scouting the area to see what's happening, grab a coffee, etc. I saw a girl that I've already approached, she thought it was funny and last time I approached her she seemed kinda interested. But my mind was distracted because some guy was being a douchebag trying to give me a fright, it was kinda lucky he didn't get too close because these sort of things set my reactions off and I can land a reverse heel kick to the head. Not that I'm bragging or anything, I always avoid fights and I don't think I'm hard or aggressive or anything. Just saying people don't realise what the risks are with this kind of behaviour.

Anyways,

#GIRL 1

I see a girl in black walking up a ramp, we exchange glances over the wall. Her expression seems kind of flirtatious (pfft who knows, maybe I am misinterpreting) so I approach as she comes around the corner. I think I manage to alarm her with my cold approach though - not really my intent! My intent is to be direct and sexy but not psychopath.

I drop the same old, "I like that you're wearing black, black is purposeful line" - as I'm closer I notice she has a cast around her arm and a jogger runs past me. What she is wearing she looks like she's just been for a run. She doesn't hear straight away so she takes her headphones out (I really hate having to repeat, it just doesn't have the same effect).

HER, smiling politely: Sorry?

I repeat my line.

HER: Oh, thanks (or something)

She is walking away, so I pursue a little bit,

ME: I just saw you and you seem kinda cute, so I had to stop and say hi
HER: Hi

Ok now I realise this is coming across as creepy as I'm following her so I stop in my tracks to try and reassure her

ME: Are you alright?
HER: Yeah yeah

I think she is reassured that I'm not a serial rapist but she seems to want to get along with whatever it is she's doing so I let her.

GIRL # 2

Ok, she's in black but I don't want to use the same old 'black is purposeful line'. She puts her cigarette out on a bin and then as she turns around I make my approach

ME: Fuschia pink, nice
HER: What?
ME: Just saying, I'm liking the style
HER (eyes rolling): Oh right. And what about my style do you like
ME: Oh you know just the stillettos...the classy dress...the handbag...
she is walking around me and doesn't look impressed
ME:...BLACK. I like the black, it gives you a sense of purpose you know...
for the first time she looks interested and starts to say something but I make the mistake of finishing my line
ME...I'm the same, you know. When you wear black it always looks like you're going somewhere.
HER: Yeah, that's right: over there
she signals to where she's walking and I stop
ME (pointing to ground in front of me): ...But you could come right here.
HER: Nope.
ME (slight chuckle): ...Alright.

Think I made a third approach but can't really remember how it went. Maybe it will come back to me. Oh well, the horny girls at midnight will be a little more receptive.