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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:50 am 
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These conversational exchanges relate to two interrelated topics, (1) my promiscuity with other women and (2) my willingness or desire to have sex with her right after I met her. My gut tells me that I could have handled these exchanges better, but I'm not exactly sure how.

1. She asked: "do you have a lot of girls?"
Me: "haha you're crazy! Why do you say that?"
Her: "I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "haha I broke up with my girlfriend, I'm single. You're my girlfriend this week, remember?" (pre-established this frame earlier on)
Her: "haha but I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "why do you say that?"
Her: "because you're funny and handsome and smart :)"
Me: "It's just me and you tonight though baby"

Then I changed the topic of conversation. Looking back, I think this was a weak way to respond because this conversation occurred later:

2. Her: "do you want to have sex with me tonight?"
Me: "Oh wow, you move fast! It would be fun to have sex, but I'm having fun with you either way."
Her: "I don't do that stuff, I don't have sex with guys who I just met. I only have sex with my boyfriend"
Me: "haha well I'm your boyfriend for the week, while you're in New York, remember?"
Her: "no no we can't do that tonight. Maybe tomorrow night"

So the overall result from this girl (HB 9 in my opinion) was a makeout and some light touching. Her phone doesn't work here in the U.S. and she gave me a flakey email address. I wasn't expecting to see her again anyway, my goal was to close the deal the same night. I haven't nailed down a perfect way to handle questions like this, although women often ask them. Ideas?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:55 pm 
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Say this:

"I love women and I love talking to them. But not everyone makes the cut. I like you. You're funny, smart, beautiful. I just want to get to know you.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:30 am 
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Her: "i bet you have so many girls i bet you have so many girls"
Me: "It's just me and you tonight though baby"
Can eiether diffuse this with humor "yeah I have a harem of women, but it's in the suburbs I don't feel like going over there tonight" or misdirection "I'm glad you think that" or an ambiguous comment that you have been around the block enough, but not too much. Don't agree as you did with the word "THOUGH". This is a shit test and if you agree with her stipulation outright you will not proceed.
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Her: "do you want to have sex with me tonight?"
Me: "Oh wow, you move fast! It would be fun to have sex, but I'm having fun with you either way."
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"Get your mind out of the gutter. You need to wine and dine me better than this if you expect SEX, jeeze." She will laugh it off.

SHE SET THE FRAME AND YOU FELL RIGHT IN TO THE FRAME. She was playing a game of tennis with you and you did not return the serve, you let the ball whizz by you.

The words "though" and "It would be fun to have sex" are where you lost it with this girl.

IN GENERAL, before you have sex with a girl for the first time, you can not verbally express anything about this unless you're like two bf/gf virgins who are planning their first time together. That's not to say there aren't instances where the talk can get very sexual before you have sex that's why I said 'in general'.

Next time, be prepared to play a fun little lightly combative game. She would have been down possibly. It's like a game of chess with some women in some situations. You'll get better as you go.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:22 am 
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Here's how I would've handled it.

1. She asked: "do you have a lot of girls?"
Me: "all the girls"
Her: "I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "yeah, if you're nice maybe I'll let you meet my 3 wives"
Her: "haha but I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "why do you say that?"
Her: "because you're funny and handsome and smart :)"
Me: "what? that's it?"

2. Her: "do you want to have sex with me tonight?"
Me: "Hold up hold up. Just how easy do you think I am? you gotta wine me and dine me first."
Her: "I don't do that stuff, I don't have sex with guys who I just met. I only have sex with my boyfriend"
Me: "I don't really have sex with guys I've just met either."


You completely fell in her frame there. Became entirely reactive and half-gamed half-attempted to tell her what you thought she wanted to hear.
You could have easily gotten a lay.

Tip: Stop using "haha's", it makes you look insecure.

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Here's how I would've handled it.

1. She asked: "do you have a lot of girls?"
Me: "all the girls"
Her: "I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "yeah, if you're nice maybe I'll let you meet my 3 wives"
Her: "haha but I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "why do you say that?"
Her: "because you're funny and handsome and smart :)"
Me: "what? that's it?"

2. Her: "do you want to have sex with me tonight?"
Me: "Hold up hold up. Just how easy do you think I am? you gotta wine me and dine me first."
Her: "I don't do that stuff, I don't have sex with guys who I just met. I only have sex with my boyfriend"
Me: "I don't really have sex with guys I've just met either."


You completely fell in her frame there. Became entirely reactive and half-gamed half-attempted to tell her what you thought she wanted to hear.
You could have easily gotten a lay.

Tip: Stop using "haha's", it makes you look insecure.
Except for not using haha's because they supposedly make you look insecure, (if you're not insecure, do
whatever you want) I totally agree with this post.

EVERY sentence she said was a test - it was an unconscious test, but she was testing to see how she can play.

This guy showed you exactly how you could have passed all those tests. As an example, when he said, "I
don't have sex with guys I've just met either" is exactly how you pass a test.

To pass a test: Agree with what she said, and then ADD to it.


I don't trust you.
Yea, I don't trust myself either.

We shouldn't be doing this.
Yea, and you shouldn't be so pushy about it.

I don't have sex on the first date.
Yea, and you shouldn't be convincing me either.

I don't go out with guys I just met.
Yea, I don't go out with guys I just met either.

You just want to get into my pants.
Yea, I think they would fit me perfectly.

You just want one thing from women.
Yea, money. What gave me away?

I bet you have a lot of girls.
Yea, all girls are mine.

I only have sex with my boyfriend.
Yea, I only have sex with my boyfriend too.

Make sense?

Keep it SIMPLE. Just agree with it, and add to it.

The important thing is to practice this. Write down examples of what
a woman could say to you, and then come up with a response.

You'll train your mind to think in that direction, so when a girl says something like
that next time, you'll be ready.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:23 pm 
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Except for not using haha's because they supposedly make you look insecure, (if you're not insecure, do
whatever you want) I totally agree with this post.
He probably used the "hahas" as a means of playing it safe. A joke is almost always better when you say it with a straight face as opposed to laughing your ass off while trying to spit it out.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:26 pm 
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These conversational exchanges relate to two interrelated topics, (1) my promiscuity with other women and (2) my willingness or desire to have sex with her right after I met her. My gut tells me that I could have handled these exchanges better, but I'm not exactly sure how.

1. She asked: "do you have a lot of girls?"
Me: "haha you're crazy! Why do you say that?"
Her: "I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "haha I broke up with my girlfriend, I'm single. You're my girlfriend this week, remember?" (pre-established this frame earlier on)
Her: "haha but I bet you have so many girls"
Me: "why do you say that?"
Her: "because you're funny and handsome and smart :)"
Me: "It's just me and you tonight though baby"

Then I changed the topic of conversation. Looking back, I think this was a weak way to respond because this conversation occurred later:

2. Her: "do you want to have sex with me tonight?"
Me: "Oh wow, you move fast! It would be fun to have sex, but I'm having fun with you either way."
Her: "I don't do that stuff, I don't have sex with guys who I just met. I only have sex with my boyfriend"
Me: "haha well I'm your boyfriend for the week, while you're in New York, remember?"
Her: "no no we can't do that tonight. Maybe tomorrow night"

So the overall result from this girl (HB 9 in my opinion) was a makeout and some light touching. Her phone doesn't work here in the U.S. and she gave me a flakey email address. I wasn't expecting to see her again anyway, my goal was to close the deal the same night. I haven't nailed down a perfect way to handle questions like this, although women often ask them. Ideas?
Discretion discretion discretion DISCRETION

I learned this the hard way in Spain. Not to tell a long story, this stunning Dutch girl and I are alone on a balcony and everything is right and for a week we both saw this coming and yet... She won't let herself go. Finally she admits that it's obvious I do this with every girl.

I learned a valuable lesson that day.
Whatever happens between me and a woman is sacred. My friends don't know about it, her friends don't know about it, onlookers don't know about it. As far as everyone else is concerned, I'm a virgin.

Can your ego handle it?

Can you handle not being a big pimp? Can you handle others thinking you are not good with women? Can you handle being that guy? Because that's the price to pay. A rich man doesn't need to tell you he's rich. Confidence is quiet. Nothing beautiful ever needs to attract attention.

So how to handle this?

Silence. When a woman asks me about other women, my answer is always the same: "That's not your business" and I change the subject. You do not joke about it. You do not test her or tease her about it. You look her deep in the eyes and you tell her that you are your own man.

She's only asking because she wants to know if her reputation is safe with you. She wants to know she can trust you to be a gentlemen... Only then will she let herself go wild.

Sex is not a joke, nor is it a game. It's something normal and natural, but it stays between you two. When she can feel that off you, then she's yours.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:22 am 
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So how do we reconcile the value of projecting abundance with avoiding questions about other women? If we're abundant (and therefore not needy), then wouldn't it make sense to be congruent with that reality?

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oceanx explained it well. The way you are acting around by being comfortable, funny, etc. already projects abundance and confidence. Her question is rhetorical one, she already knows you seem like the type of guy who has women in his life, but don't fall into her frame by qualifying to her. Break rapport by taking it the extreme like you have a harem or something and laugh it off with her, then switch the conversation and start qualifying her about herself.

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So how do we reconcile the value of projecting abundance with avoiding questions about other women? If we're abundant (and therefore not needy), then wouldn't it make sense to be congruent with that reality?
That's actually a good question

Have you ever heard the saying "A rich man never needs to tell you he's rich"? It's the basic concept that if you embody (I.e. genuinely live) abundance, then it's something people can feel off you. It's hard to explain because like I said, it's a feeling, but it's noticeable. You can just tell that someone has got his shit together. It's like when someone is lying to your face and you aren't quite sure how but you legitimately know within the depths of your being that this dude is straight up full of shit.

That's the paradox actually - if you're thinking about projecting abundance, then you do not live in abundance. Remember, a rich man doesn't need to tell you he's rich. If you get super excited for a date and like legitimately cancel on your friends and schedule your day around the date you have - you aren't living in abundance. A sense of abundance is akin to having this background voice in your head that says "of course..." That's it. It's like of course she likes me. Of course she would make out with me. Of course she would give me her number. Of course she wants to see me again. Of course she would sleep with me... It would be weird if that wasn't the case.

The thing is to be aware that you don't have to communicate it at all - you naturally do. That's what people are talking about when they talk about a 'masculine edge'. It's like this look on your face that says I have a secret that I will reveal to her only if she behaves.

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It's evident when I communicate with women. I'll hold eye contact longer than normal, I'll touch her right away. I'll come in super close and speak to her like I'm about to kiss her. Everything I do shows her that I'm used to being around gorgeous women. Willingness to walk away? It's not a tactic - a man who has abundance could honestly care less. Pre-selection? Please girl, find yourself in a room with me and your clothes are coming off.

Understand what I mean?
Be mysterious and allow her to find out about you, but what you do in private stays between you and the beautiful women who share themselves with you. It's something sacred and precious. Don't fuck it up.

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