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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:04 am 
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Thanks guys. I'll go out alone now as well lol. I really appreciate the support.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:55 am 
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Then the 8 I was talking to just left and I was there sitting by myself. Never came back went outside the club...and then...I realised one of my buddies was out of the club for a long time before her as well. Turns out they hooked up outside (she went straight to him and told him to go for a walk!!!..). So my buddy got the girl I tried to game..and he talked to her way way way less. Danced the same and he had way more superficial chatting...and a bit of teasing maybe. But he did it. LOL

Anyway, then my friend asked for permission via messages and I gave it to him and also gave him the keys a bit later to my house because I live alone and he lives with his parents...and he nailed her! I stayed elsewhere
That's pretty brutal bro. Reading that almost made me cry. :cry: And it's not even my field report. Lol


I appreciate it that you assisted your bro in getting laid. As i am myself a team player. And take 1 for the team at times. But it was with the girl that you tried to bang first.


You need to be more selfish in order to be successful in this game. I suspect what's hurting your results with girls is not that you're using the wrong routines on the girls (which is probably what you believe the problem is), but i actually believe that you are way too nice..with everyone. Now me saying this..might make you react to it with a big "HUH?". But trust me..AFC behaviors and character flaws in your personality (like you are being way too nice with everyone), hurts your results with women alot more than you using the wrong routine or technique on girls. I'll give you a piece of advice that you will always remember..GIRLS ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO, AND DO NOT LIKE NICE GUYS. The only type of guys who are "NICE GUYS" that still can get laid alot, are guys who look like George Clooney, they have alot of money, or they are famous. If you aren't in any of those 3 categories of "NICE GUYS"..you won't get laid. And if you do..it will be very infrequent.


You gotta get meaner..not in a bad mood sense, but in a bit of a selfish asshole sense.


Also, i think that you're expending too much energy and over-reaching (in other words..you are trying way too hard) with all of the verbal game and routines that you are machine gunning at girls. Try to balance it out by using more kino along with your verbal game, to pull girls in more. And kino will also make what you say verbally to girls..have twice as much more potency to it. This way too..you will preserve more mental energy as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:10 am 
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Then the 8 I was talking to just left and I was there sitting by myself. Never came back went outside the club...and then...I realised one of my buddies was out of the club for a long time before her as well. Turns out they hooked up outside (she went straight to him and told him to go for a walk!!!..). So my buddy got the girl I tried to game..and he talked to her way way way less. Danced the same and he had way more superficial chatting...and a bit of teasing maybe. But he did it. LOL

Anyway, then my friend asked for permission via messages and I gave it to him and also gave him the keys a bit later to my house because I live alone and he lives with his parents...and he nailed her! I stayed elsewhere
GIRLS ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO, AND DO NOT LIKE NICE GUYS. The only type of guys who are "NICE GUYS" that still can get laid alot, are guys who look like George Clooney, they have alot of money, or they are famous. If you aren't in any of those 3 categories of "NICE GUYS"..you won't get laid. And if you do..it will be very infrequent.

You gotta get meaner..not in a bad mood sense, but in a bit of a selfish asshole sense.
I get what you are saying I really do. But man I like being a nice guy. That's who I am. I've had relationships in which I was a nice guy and those relationships were full of mutual trust and warm feelings. I also had relationships in which I was a bit of an asshole kinda guy and got the girl that way..but the only good about those relationships was that I was having sex...nothing else. So, I don't think you are right about everything there. Unless you can explain a little bit more what you mean cause that kinda of lifestyle doesn't sound very healthy to me. (believe me...having sex is something I want...but it's not something that makes feel anything deep and meaningful..it happens one moment and then it's gone...but having a trusting relationship and being a nice guy and having a nice girl as my girlfriend (doesn't have to be 9 or 10...even a 7 would be ok) is way better and makes me happier)

Thanks for the advice though. You've really made me think. I think you are right at least at some extent. I will try to be a little more like that but without being a bad guy...just a little bit more selfish and taking initiative. I'll also try work more kino and be a little bit more cocky...maybe it will work. I just like the kinda guy I am...don't wanna change my core values to get laid...I am willing to change my approach style.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:01 pm 
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My point exactly. You are in love with your "nice guy" identity, which will only allow you to achieve a certain level of success in the game. But you won't be able to enjoy that next level of success until you change it up a bit. Shake things up in both your inner and outer game a bit.


I'll give you 2 simple examples of what a nice guy would say when number closing a girl, and when flirting with a girl. I will use the same example for a guy who is a little bit more of a selfish asshole. They both will say almost exactly the same things. But the "Nice Guy" will be more apologetic, passive, and beta. And the "Bit Of A Selfish Asshole Guy" will be more un-apologetic, assertive, and alpha. I will show you these 2 examples so that you can see the subtle difference. And maybe it will be obvious to you why you can see why the "Nice Guy" way isn't as effective. Girls will just reject the "Nice Guy" that approaches her, all day long!


Number Closing Example:

The Nice Guy: "Can i please get your number so i can call you sometime?"

The Bit Of A Selfish Asshole Guy: "Let me get your number, so we can get some chocolate smoothies this week. Are you available on Tuesday?"


Flirting Example:

The Nice Guy: "Excuse me..Sorry..Hi. But i saw you from over there, and i wanted to come over to say that you have a very wonderful tan"

The Bit Of A Selfish Asshole Guy: "Hi. I was standing over there, when i saw you. And i had to come over and tell you that you have a nice tan. But of course..it's not as nice as my tan. Haha..i'm just messing with you"


See the difference?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:42 pm 
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See the difference?
Yeah I totally see the difference. I have to admit I would never say what the nice guy said (I know those phrases are lame). However, I wouldn't be like the selfish asshole kinda guy either. I have said the phrases the selfish guy would say...and with success...but in the past. The last 1-2 years I've been more of a nice guy while gaming than in the past. I get your point way better now. Thanks for the advice. I'll try and apply it and see what happens.


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"Let me get your number, so we can get some chocolate smoothies this week. Are you available on Tuesday?"
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just a little bit more selfish and taking initiative.
This.

You don't have to be a raging asshole to succeed in this game - far from it. You can be a nice person. But you have to go for what you want unapologetically/smoothly for example not saying "oh ok" the second she gives a token "no ty" to your proposal or whatever after a good interaction.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:49 pm 
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While it can be awesome to have a wing, in many instances it's a hell of a lot easier and more fun to go out and improve on your own.

Don't let your brain trick you into creating excuses for a lack of action. There are women everywhere. You don't need to have a reason or a set time to meet a woman. I'm sure you go out to do things other than work or school. When you are doing these things, there are women around. Talk to the ones who pique your interest. They won't bite.

Rather than thinking of it as cold approach, think of it as spreading your chill vibes and seeing what sticks.
^ This

Also, when you are new to cold approaching, then you should especially divorce yourself from the outcome. Truth be told, you are likely to several much more than succeed in the beginning. Think of the process as building mental muscle. You will learn much faster by failing multiple times.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:48 pm 
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Slightly off topic, but what are chocolate smoothies?

Usually smoothies are just fruit juice and I hadn't imagined the flavours would complement each other.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:42 pm 
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Slightly off topic, but what are chocolate smoothies?

Usually smoothies are just fruit juice and I hadn't imagined the flavours would complement each other.
Haha. I just made it up on the fly, just for the sake of a demonstration. But fuck yeah you can make a chocolate smoothie. I'm pretty sure it's a real thing. Funny enough..if you say it to the girl with conviction..the girl will believe it, even if it is a lie. I believe this is NLP?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:12 pm 
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You're a good dude to give your buddy the keys to your place so he could shag. The pendulum will swing your way soon, I'm sure of it.
Good karma. Keep up what you are doing and things will come back around.


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