well she never turned up, she hasn't phoned or texted, i havn't text or phoned back, what now?

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oh rite

That's unfortunate, but it will always be her loss because she is missing out on you. Now that your beginning your journey into pick-up, you're already setting yourself apart from the rest of the chumps she comes into contact with on a regular basis. It will only improve for you because you sound enthusiastic. As long as you remain so, you will go on fine.

I'd be tempted to cut my loss at this stage dude because she has bad manners. She may even be one of those girls who are completely off the scale and deliberately set out to fuck over because they enjoy it. Even if she is not one of those girls, I'd rather invest my energy elsewhere - there's plenty of good girls out there to choose from and you sound like a guy who can take it on.

I remember when I first got into pick-up. I'd be getting all these numbers and getting good vibes from all these girls. Some flaked of course, and being a recovering AFC, I felt rejected. But then I thought that the whole idea of getting involved and learning the ways of pick-up is to progress and take the power away from girls and place that power into my own hands. Pick-up is very life-affirming. Imagine the poor guy who doesn't know this and keeps chasing the girl who flaked on meeting up with him. He has no power and is a puppet on a string. It will make him feel bad.

I agree with Mystery (sounds a cliche I know!) when he says that sarging shouldn't be a power struggle between you and her. Its best to have fun and be friendly. This is the experience we should have. The bottom line behind it all however is that interacting succesfully is in, many ways, about having an ace up your sleeve. The ace in this case is pick up. You have discovered this now. Keep that in mind and open some sets when you next go out.

Some guys might disagree with me and suggest that you text her with a neg. Read what they've got to say by all means. This is just my viewpoint because I always look forward to the next sarge. Just roll with the punches and grind your initial disappointment out of your system. I get disappointed when girls flake, but it lasts for 10 seconds. I know there's something better elsewhere and that I will encounter it...

yeh i totally agree mate, its all expericance right. oh and what would be the best books to get im quite interested now ive heard of mystery method and rules of the game, but isn't the material in these books used so often that most girls know of it now?

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My guess is that most of us will agree that The Game by Strauss and The Mystery Method are by far the best when it comes to putting in the foundations. As far as girls being aware of the contents of these books, it depends on where you live. I live in the UK and the Mystery stuff has not blown up all over the place, so it is easy to get away it somewhat.

The principle these books have though is more compelling. They lead to an infinite amount of possibilities. You are free to read these books, but then use the principles they contain to create your own negs, DHV spikes, etc and listen to other people's ideas on these subjets as well. This is why pick-up is so dynamic. Once you start appreciating the flexibility of it all, being "caught out" won't be much of an issue.

I've been looking into the pickup101 stuff which is really interesting and the David DeAngelo stuff gets good opinions also. Once you get your foundations in, just branch out a little. Some guys might suggest other books which I haven't mentioned. But for foundations, read The Game and MM. I found these as great tools to begin with.

i have been dealing with this lately for some reason too...most people will agree that you will have ups and downs as far as the flow/quality of girls. The important thing is, you are on an overall growth pattern. sometimes a girl won't call back because of something you did, and you can analyze it and learn, other times there is no real reason except that is just how they are. I typically don't call or text back at all if a girl bails out on me, and sure enough they almost always eventually text me another time.

Definately read the game...it's a good base. from there, you can find a lot of good material to read up on. I definately think that the MM is a good you should read. alright good luck with everything man!

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The Bachelor's Code by Tyler. Check it out...
http://www.thebachelorscode.com/

got the game and mystery method and the game is quite interesting didn't expect it to be a more story bassed book but it very good so far

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The Game is very entertaining and is good for being the first port of call for anyone interested in pick-up, especially those who know nothing about the subject. But it sounds like you've become familiar with pick-up already, so you are more conscious of the book's style. I rarely refer back to it now, but was very good for giving me enthusiasm.

Enjoy.

lol hey guys, i just received a text from this girl, heh not sure how to reply she said "what are u up to on thursday? can you drive lol just a question" i dont really know what to do about this whole situation its obvious she wants to see me but she had already fucked me over once and i dont wanna seem like im just some new toy. you all know what i mean anyway cheers now

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If I got a text like that after being fucked over like that, I would think she is playing games. To be stood up like that without an excuse and to act like it never happened is weird. I know you're dealing with a female here dude and females are not rational beings, but please...her manners are fucking out of order! It sounds like she wants to fuck you around.

It's entirely up to you what you do. If I was in that situation, I would think to myself "hey, I'm learning about pick-up all the time. I'm getting better with each passing day and I know I can get a better girl with better manners somewhere else".

She fucked up. I'd tell her she missed her chance. If you re-initiate contact for another meet-up, you're made to look like a doormat. She will think "I've stood this guy up and he still wants me. I've got him right where I want him. I'm going to have some fun".

Pass her up dude. Get something better.

Good luck