Okay, so I have been into this whole PUA thing for no more than 48 hours (I literally started reading the game on Monday night and I am only on page 142) but as with everything I do in life, once I'm interested in something I dive in head first...I just never knew these techniques existed.

So on to my neg that I used for the first time last night. To set the scene, I was at a volunteer event (HINT: Guys, great place to pick up chicks is to volunteer! I have been to 4 events and have been the only guy there!!! Lots of HB's too!). When I got there, there were about 5 girls; 3 HB6's, 1 HB 7.5, and one HB9) I smile as I walk in and they all say hi and introduce themselves.

I immediately start ignoring the HB9 and start being overly friendly with the other girls. This bothers her and she starts trying to talk to me. During the first 3 min of talking she lets her hair down, and I grab this opportunity to neg...

Kingjester: No don't put your hair down, keep it up
HB9: (looks at me with a weird smile, but puts her hair back up)
Kingjester: Actually, let it back down
HB9: (more confused, she lets it down again)
Kingjester: (look at her with a kind of confused/undecided face and say) Ahhhh, I guess it doesn't matter...(followed by looking away with a disappointed face)

I could tell that it made her uncomfortable and insecure about which way she should wear her hair to the point that I caught her putting it up and putting it down for the rest of the night! The next neg came when she started giving me IOI's as she would bump into me as we passed or lightly push me when we were close. Everytime she touched me I said with a serious face "Please don't touch me" haha, all it did was make her want to touch me more!

Finally, at the end of the night, one of the kids we were volunteering with asked me if me and the HB9 were dating (mind you, she was standing right behind me) and I replied with a shocked face and said

Kingjester:Who her? Noooo, she's not really my type
HB9: Hey! What does that mean?
Kingjester: Nothing, I just don't think that we would be right for eachother
HB9: How can you say that when you just met me for the first time tonight?
Kingjester: I don't know, just a hunch. Why, do you think we could ever date?
HB9: I'm not sure, it's too early to tell.
Kingjester: Okay, how bout this. Let's go on ONE date and put this discussion to rest.
HB9: Deal. Here's my number...

BOOM! I couldn't believe it worked!!! I can honestly say that I have NEVER gotten a number on the first instance of talking to a girl.

Thoughts? Ways to improve? Things I did wrong?

Interested to hear the feedback!

things wrong? in my oppinion she was maybe hb9 from outside, but AFC from inside, i think too much NEGS you could kiss her or something and just tell something like "this doesn't mean i fell in love with you, this only means that you have some chances to win me for a night or two"

So girls can be AFC's too? huh...anyway, you think i negged her too much? I mean, i failed to mention that i was playfully flirting with her inbetween all the negs, more like subtle reminders to put her in her place.

So this whole kiss thing blows my mind...and where my issues with picking up girls really lies.

I know my strengths, in that I'm not afraid to go up to any girl and just start talking to her, I'm great about building rapport and getting them to like me...however, when it comes time to close all that goes through my head is "maybe you THINK she likes you, but doesn't"...i am terribly awkward at the phase shift!!!

I got the number because that is easy, but I bet even if I went on a date with her and all went well, I would still choke when it comes to getting her home or kissing her!

That is the HELP i need!

I like this FR of yours. Seems like she wants to prove you wrong Hmm as for the closing, don't worry about that. See your thinking too much about this already, when you think too much of a date, chances are you will freeze up because you are expecting perfection. Just make sure you bait-hook-reel-release a few times, throw in DHV stories, even if your into this sort of thing do some ESP/Palm Reading for fun or play some games. Just don't make it feel like a date, more like a fun good time with a buddy. Touch her enough to make her comfortable for when you do kiss her, you shouldn't kiss at the end of the date, because that's when the pressure builds. Do it half-way during your date with her at random. Pull her into a corner and just wamm lay a kiss on her for fun, and if she is surprised say "I just wanted to know what your lips tasted like, stick your tongue out at her laughing".

yes, girls are afcs until they have no boyfriend, or treat themselves a ugly, not nice etc,so their value is broken down in their heads and this starts them to do the fucking ugly stuff like "asskissing" "if you want to smoke, just do it, don't bother of me" "i know that this is our last meet because you'll find another girl" or bla bla bla, all these i got in a few months back from a few girls

I read a great kiss close on here recently, I'm not claiming credit, here it is as I remember it:

Ask the girl outright 'Do you want to kiss me?' Do it in a suspicious way like some neon sign just lit up on her face saying 'I want to kiss you' and you're shocked. You have 3 possible replies

1. She says 'Yes' - unlikely but need I say more...
2. She hesitates, or says maybe or dunno or something like that - just reply 'Let's see' and dive in...
3. She says 'No' - just reply 'oh, you looked like you had something on your mind - what you thinking about?'

Also, just remembered from David D that there is a test for whether a girl will kiss you. Basically, if she'll let you touch her hair, from the front, then she'll respond to a kiss so just say that she has sexy hair or something and run it through your fingers down the side of her face.

I think there is alot signs if the girl will let you kiss her.
During the date you just need to "read" her, you'll notice if she is atracted to you and via versa. Girl will let you kiss her in 2 occassions i think, 1st when
she is atracted to you and 2nd is if she is "ok" with you, means she isnt having negative thoughts or feelings about you ,but she also isnt atracted.
And the kiss will happen for sure, if she doesnt think youre a creep .

Still, after first date. Depends on how atracted YOU are to her, i d give a kiss on a cheek before leaving, or no kiss at all. This will leave her with mixed feelings for sure.

One of mine lines was,
Talking with girl:
"You know what i think?Cause i know you like me, and i feel the same. I think we should do one thing/kiss. I think we should see how it feels. Because i know we are waiting for THAT moment, when music slows down, everything stops and it will happen. But i must say, that moment might not come any soon. Or when it comes, one of us wont notice it, and it will just pass. And as the time goes, and nothing happens, we will just feel akward and end up as normal friends."

worked for me.


ps. i definetly wiill try that "do you want to kiss me?" line.

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i most def will try this i see much potential in using it it shows that you're assertive in you're beliefs and you are confident and that you know what you are doing and just explaining to her the situation u know u both are in