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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:47 am 
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This is the tactic of JAck Zero.

He really doesn't hang around women often, yet claims t be an "expert".

Come on Jack, instead of tearing other people down, build yourself up. Let's see the proof that your game and advice actually works.
I have women. Proved that with my pictures and text. You just don't want to accept the possibility that you don't know what you're talking about which you have proven that you don't.

Here's proof that I know what I'm talking about. You agree with me most of the time and when you don't, you're either proven wrong or contradict yourself.

But let's see some more pictures that have your "friend" put in a message specific to this post or at least admitting to be your girlfriend.

Fact is, I didn't say anything to you and you've gone on the attack on me. You are trying to tear me down in order to build yourself up. Scroll up...you'll see it. I even deliberately took those statements out of my signature in order to be civil, but you started in again. If you could keep your stories straight, I wouldn't have anything to say about you.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:48 am 
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those blurry photos in public places, and your texts are not proof.

Have one of your girls hold up a sign with my name on it, and then we'll know you aren't all talk.

Should be easy, right?

I mean, the way you talk on this forum, you are an expert, and have women at your house every night. It would take five seconds.

Your biggest "tell" Jack, is that you never include specific details about your own life in your advice and posts here. Because you aren't around women all often.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:56 am 
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those blurry photos in public places, and your texts are not proof.

Have one of your girls hold up a sign with my name on it, and then we'll know you aren't all talk.

Should be easy, right?

I mean, the way you talk on this forum, you are an expert, and have women at your house every night. It would take five seconds.
I can get a picture of a girl holding a sign with your name on it easily and she doesn't even have to be interested in me. I know that doesn't prove anything. Get a picture of you and your girlfriend kissing like I shown you with mine.

Should be easy, right?

But again, you're deflecting from being wrong.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:00 am 
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You posted a blurry photo of a man and a woman in a public place.

It means nothing. It could be a bartender, a server, a random woman on the street.

I had my gf hold up a sign with your name, half naked on my bed, lol.

You're play, Jack.


But the funny thing is, I'm guessing you simply don't have a woman.

You're advice on this forum is 100% devoid of personal life references, an enormous sign you just aren't that experienced with women.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:04 am 
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You posted a blurry photo of a man and a woman in a public place.

It means nothing. It could be a bartender, a server, a random woman on the street.

I had my gf hold up a sign with your name, half naked on my bed, lol.

You're play, Jack.


But the funny thing is, I'm guessing you simply don't have a woman.

You're advice on this forum is 100% devoid of personal life references, an enormous sign you just aren't that experienced with women.
Bullshit. I've put in plenty of personal life experiences. Ask R.C, Neo, Mr. Assertive, Eddie Fews, Dragula, or Charles Finley if it's me in those pictures. I'm more than just talk.

You put tons of personal life experience in your posts that are about you and you've proven that you've fumbled your way through things. But like I said...you always agree with me and when you don't you've contradicted yourself or proven wrong.

But again your deflecting about you saying that the OP had a problem but you don't see any red flags and about the orgasm thing (but that's not important to me).

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:34 am 
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Jack, that's crystal ball reading my intentions. I rarely get pissed off. RARELY.
Is that anymore crystal ball reading the girlfriend's intention by saying she is wishing for a pussy pounding because the OP is lacking? Regardless of crystal ball reading, I know you are smart enough to realize that you were delivering a low blow and I've never seen you do that on the forum. Pissed or not, it's out of character for you.
Jack, the op is a 40 something adult man wanting to put all of the blame on a 20 something woman. If you are going to mollycoddle his victim mentality, you are doing a great disservice to all masculine men. The op needs to grow up, act like an adult man, and take control of the situation with fairness and prudent reason.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:00 am 
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Jack, that's crystal ball reading my intentions. I rarely get pissed off. RARELY.
Is that anymore crystal ball reading the girlfriend's intention by saying she is wishing for a pussy pounding because the OP is lacking? Regardless of crystal ball reading, I know you are smart enough to realize that you were delivering a low blow and I've never seen you do that on the forum. Pissed or not, it's out of character for you.
Jack, the op is a 40 something adult man wanting to put all of the blame on a 20 something woman. If you are going to mollycoddle his victim mentality, you are doing a great disservice to all masculine men. The op needs to grow up, act like an adult man, and take control of the situation with fairness and prudent reason.
Umm...if you pay attention, R.C, Neo, and myself had all put responsibility on him and his girlfriend from the get go. We didn't take cheap shots though. Don't pull the card of him being mollycoddled because you wanted to be the guy that helped him sleep better that night and you were admittedly willing to take that role of nurturer. I don't even think he played the victim. From the beginning he knew that his feelings on the subject were hypocritical and he admitted it was his ego. I'm sure that since you have said that you have wanted to learn more about human behavior you must know that even grown men don't talk to each other in that manner if he has intentions of helping him because when you talk down to someone like that there automatic response is to automatically reject whatever it is you have to say.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:22 am 
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My neurotic and weak self went and spoke to my girlfriend today. I insisted that she wasn't telling me the truth about going to see her parents and she finally broke down and told me that was a lie. At first she said that it was just going to be her and her roommate performing sexual acts on each other to get him hot and bothered and then she was going to leave the room. I told her that being partially honest was still a lie and she kept insisting that nothing else was going to happen. Since she kept insisting, I came home. She kept texting and calling and I wouldn't answer until she shown up at my door.

She kept telling me nothing else was going to happen. After about 10 minutes of her trying to reassure me that nothing else would happen I told her that I was about to give her my approval to go ahead and follow through with it and there would have been no repercussions from me but since she can't be honest I didn't want to see her anymore. That's when she finally admitted the truth that they were going to give the boyfriend the same SPAM that I got right down to the blindfold. That's when I said that I needed to think about things. She wanted me to tell her that I still loved her but I refused because I still don't know how I feel at the moment. She did go down on me but after that I told her that it doesn't change how I feel about things right now. She offered to cook something for dinner and I refused and told her that it was best that we don't speak until at least the weekend because I didn't want to think about anything that she may or may not be doing.

I still don't trust her or the situation even though she is trying now to reassure that nothing will happen. I know that's only because she felt like she got caught. I'm going to clear my head, hit the gym, hang out with friends, and not worry about anything for a while.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:23 am 
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Umm...if you pay attention, R.C, Neo, and myself had all put responsibility on him and his girlfriend from the get go. We didn't take cheap shots though. Don't pull the card of him being mollycoddled because you wanted to be the guy that helped him sleep better that night and you were admittedly willing to take that role of nurturer. I don't even think he played the victim. From the beginning he knew that his feelings on the subject were hypocritical and he admitted it was his ego. I'm sure that since you have said that you have wanted to learn more about human behavior you must know that even grown men don't talk to each other in that manner if he has intentions of helping him because when you talk down to someone like that there automatic response is to automatically reject whatever it is you have to say.
I never talked down to the op. I treated him as an adult man who needed some emotional support and some insights on his situation. In fact, it was the op who tried talking down to some of us, attacking some of us as persons, and descending into name calling.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:37 am 
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Umm...if you pay attention, R.C, Neo, and myself had all put responsibility on him and his girlfriend from the get go. We didn't take cheap shots though. Don't pull the card of him being mollycoddled because you wanted to be the guy that helped him sleep better that night and you were admittedly willing to take that role of nurturer. I don't even think he played the victim. From the beginning he knew that his feelings on the subject were hypocritical and he admitted it was his ego. I'm sure that since you have said that you have wanted to learn more about human behavior you must know that even grown men don't talk to each other in that manner if he has intentions of helping him because when you talk down to someone like that there automatic response is to automatically reject whatever it is you have to say.
I never talked down to the op. I treated him as an adult man who needed some emotional support and some insights on his situation. In fact, it was the op who tried talking down to some of us, attacking some of us as persons, and descending into name calling.
That's an outright lie. I was very respectful towards you. The most I did was disagree with the orgasm thing which you later said that you were incorrect and started the whole pussy pounding thing. That's the only time I called anyone names. I didn't even call Arch Stanton names after he called me a troll for not contacting him and let's not forget neurotic and weak. You can correct me if I'm wrong by quoting the statement where I started the disrespect.

Btw...Thank you neo87, JackZero, and R.C for helping me see this with realistic eyes. Arch Stanton, I do appreciate you trying to help as well.


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Well, that sucks, OP. Despite my direct wording, I was rooting for you.

I'll still agree with Monsignor, in that a dominant male who gives a lot of orgasms will not have this happen to him.

Set boundaries early in your next relationship, and occasionally show toughness (not the loud Mike Ditka kind, the Clint Eastwood kind).

I only date 20-somethings, and I find that setting reasonable "standards of behavior" early goes a long way. The people in my life either meet these standards (it can be lovers, woman friends, guy friends, work peers, etc) or I move on from them.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:53 am 
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My neurotic and weak self went and spoke to my girlfriend today. I insisted that she wasn't telling me the truth about going to see her parents and she finally broke down and told me that was a lie. At first she said that it was just going to be her and her roommate performing sexual acts on each other to get him hot and bothered and then she was going to leave the room. I told her that being partially honest was still a lie and she kept insisting that nothing else was going to happen. Since she kept insisting, I came home. She kept texting and calling and I wouldn't answer until she shown up at my door.

She kept telling me nothing else was going to happen. After about 10 minutes of her trying to reassure me that nothing else would happen I told her that I was about to give her my approval to go ahead and follow through with it and there would have been no repercussions from me but since she can't be honest I didn't want to see her anymore. That's when she finally admitted the truth that they were going to give the boyfriend the same SPAM that I got right down to the blindfold. That's when I said that I needed to think about things. She wanted me to tell her that I still loved her but I refused because I still don't know how I feel at the moment. She did go down on me but after that I told her that it doesn't change how I feel about things right now. She offered to cook something for dinner and I refused and told her that it was best that we don't speak until at least the weekend because I didn't want to think about anything that she may or may not be doing.

I still don't trust her or the situation even though she is trying now to reassure that nothing will happen. I know that's only because she felt like she got caught. I'm going to clear my head, hit the gym, hang out with friends, and not worry about anything for a while.

Boom! Was just going to reply to all this question dodging (more Arch, MC is responding to questions with his reasoning although I disgaree, Arch is just throwing an opinion, no reasoning and diverting), but this answered the would she or wouldnt she question.

Now, OP, I'm truly sorry for the outcome and my response above was due to all the dodging in the thread. You'll get this happened because you were weak, or didnt make her really orgasm, but simply, your girl didnt value fidelity as evidenced when she brought a chick in a relationship in the bedroom. And likewise, you didnt value fidelity when you allowed it. The relationship should have ended that night when you saw how easy it was for her to be a part of cheating. If Jack and I are cool, and I see Jack telling someone to steal from someone else, I have to distance myself from Jack cause I wont fool myself that he wouldnt steal from me. Besides that, you didnt do anything wrong imo, you just picked the wrong chick. You're in great shape, older, gave her good sex, still...it happens. If you had continued being the dominant male, you just wouldnt have found out.

If not giving real orgasms lead to women going elsewhere, yet the majority of men cant give a woman an orgasm, doesnt this mean that most women will just cheat? And if thats the case, that sounds more like "women are evil" than anything said here. See it just doesnt make sense and glad you didnt go down that road.


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The relationship should have ended that night when you saw how easy it was for her to be a part of cheating.


This is complete nonsense, IMHO. Any man with a dick is going to love what happened to the OP, and not get on a soap box until the deed is long over.

Come on, man. Do you guys ever hang around multiple women at the same time? The flirting, the partying, the laughter, the slight touching, the long raven and blonde hair fliping about the room ,etc?

Come. The. Fuck. On.

Having two girls on your dick at the same time is an amazing feeling. You're simply not going to care about the repercussions at the time.



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If you had continued being the dominant male, you just wouldnt have found out.
No, he became the dominant male when he confronted her about her behavior. If he had set this standard early on, this doesn't happen.


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If not giving real orgasms lead to women going elsewhere, yet the majority of men cant give a woman an orgasm, doesnt this mean that most women will just cheat?
No, it means most men get dumped within two weeks. This, combined with becoming emotionally-uncentered is why women do most of the dumping.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:19 am 
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No, he became the dominant male when he confronted her about her behavior.
Lol. He said that he was going to confront her and get her to admit the truth. Then you asked him about new information that he may have had. After he didn't respond to you, you called him neurotic and weak.

How did that action go from neurotic and weak to dominant male?

Maybe you can explain your answer in a picture.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:22 am 
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...women do most of the dumping.
And the majority of women file the divorce while the majority of men want to make the relationship work.

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