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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:09 am 
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Btw, doesnt the dad know about you after a year?
He knows about me and has seen pictures of my girlfriend and I all over her Facebook. He doesn't approve. To her credit, she has never attempted to keep me a secret from her family.

Oh ok. Yeah, its a weird situation; Im just being honest. Its not so much the bf's dominance in the equation, moreso the girls' relationship to each other.


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Btw, doesnt the dad know about you after a year?
He knows about me and has seen pictures of my girlfriend and I all over her Facebook. He doesn't approve. To her credit, she has never attempted to keep me a secret from her family.

Oh ok. Yeah, its a weird situation; Im just being honest. Its not so much the bf's dominance in the equation, moreso the girls' relationship to each other.
It definitely is a weird situation and I agree with the relationship between friends over the man's dominance thing. I appreciate your honesty and am accepting that the outcome is not going to be to my liking although I'm hoping for that Hail Mary play that puts things in my favor.


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It's a relationship satisfaction thing, op. If a girl is more satisfied in her relationship with you than her relationship with her bestfriend, then there will be no dick sucking on Thursday.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:52 am 
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OP, I've been telling guys for a while now that you never ever do threesomes with girls that are friends if you are in a monogamous relationship with one of them. There is always going to be a debt to be paid. I'm with Neo here, that dick is getting sucked on Thursday.

Oh please.

You would jump at a threesome with two cute girls the first chance you got, and the context would never enter your mind until it was long over.

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OP, I've been telling guys for a while now that you never ever do threesomes with girls that are friends if you are in a monogamous relationship with one of them. There is always going to be a debt to be paid. I'm with Neo here, that dick is getting sucked on Thursday.

Oh please.

You would jump at a threesome with two cute girls the first chance you got, and the context would never enter your mind until it was long over.
Arch, you don't know me to even think you'd know what I would or wouldn't jump at.

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IMHO, there aren't many women that are as attractive as my girlfriend. I'm a personal trainer and I live in the gym and I resemble the late Paul Walker before he passed away. We are a couple that the other couples look at when we walk into a room together.
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I'm %99 positive that she would tell me that the couple tried to get her to join in the menage a trois and she'd say no. It's just hard to believe that would be the truth. I'm just not naive enough to think that being dominant is enough to keep girls in line. I personally have stolen girlfriends from the so-called dominant man(no offense to you). I wish I had the trust in my situation that you have in yours.
You never set the boundary though, and maybe you should this week. My gf and her roommate have had sex a few times before me. I basically said if you don't have a green light, you get dumped. She will let me fuck other girls if I really want to, as long as she's in the room. She'll bring a friend home occasionally just for that.

When you are the more attractive couple, less attractive people (couples or not) will try and snag one or both of you. It's just going to happen. It's really easy to have threesomes.

A few months in, I simply told my gf there's no real reason for her to hang out with her roommate and her boyfriend at the same time. The reason is because there were two attempts by those two. The threesome I had was in my own deranged way revenge for that, haha. Yes, I can be childish.

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IMHO, there aren't many women that are as attractive as my girlfriend. I'm a personal trainer and I live in the gym and I resemble the late Paul Walker before he passed away. We are a couple that the other couples look at when we walk into a room together.
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I'm %99 positive that she would tell me that the couple tried to get her to join in the menage a trois and she'd say no. It's just hard to believe that would be the truth. I'm just not naive enough to think that being dominant is enough to keep girls in line. I personally have stolen girlfriends from the so-called dominant man(no offense to you). I wish I had the trust in my situation that you have in yours.
You never set the boundary though, and maybe you should this week. My gf and her roommate have had sex a few times before me. I basically said if you don't have a green light, you get dumped. She will let me fuck other girls if I really want to, as long as she's in the room. She'll bring a friend home occasionally just for that.

When you are the more attractive couple, less attractive people (couples or not) will try and snag one or both of you. It's just going to happen. It's really easy to have threesomes.

A few months in, I simply told my gf there's no real reason for her to hang out with her roommate and her boyfriend at the same time. The reason is because there were two attempts by those two. The threesome I had was in my own deranged way revenge for that, haha. Yes, I can be childish.
I think I made it clear when I told her that she couldn't do it when she asked. I'm pretty sure she understands that boundary because she wouldn't do it. I'm not the type of boyfriend that will tell her who she can and can't hang around with. All that does is show my insecurity and if she thinks I disapprove of something she will do it behind my back no matter how small of an issue it is. Moreso, it's her roommate and I'm not sure how I can keep the three of them from actually hanging out and I'm really interested in knowing how you prevent that from happening with your girlfriend, her friend, and her friends boyfriend since the two of them live together.


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It's a relationship satisfaction thing, op. If a girl is more satisfied in her relationship with you than her relationship with her bestfriend, then there will be no dick sucking on Thursday.
I just posed this scenario to three of the girls I worked with. Two of them seem to side with Neo87 and said they would feel an obligation to pay back their friend for the favor even if they were in good relationships. The third one said that she would give the guy a hand job at the most. The pessimist in me knows that if she were to go that far than she would probably be convinced to do more in the heat of the moment. The thing that stuck out is when one of them said that menages are more about fun than emotion and lots of girls don't think of it as cheating even though she wouldn't allow her boyfriend to have one without her. Woman logic, or more accurately, woman illogic.


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I'm not the type of boyfriend that will tell her who she can and can't hang around with. All that does is show my insecurity and if she thinks I disapprove of something she will do it behind my back no matter how small of an issue it is.
You revealed your insecurity by trying to babysit her with the hotel room. But I get your point.

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Moreso, it's her roommate and I'm not sure how I can keep the three of them from actually hanging out and I'm really interested in knowing how you prevent that from happening with your girlfriend, her friend, and her friends boyfriend since the two of them live together.


It's really easy. This is what I told my gf after her roommate and boyfriend tried a threesome:

"They've tried to have a threesome with you, your roommate straight up asked you a week ago, it's a known fact the boyfriend really likes you. Respect the relationship, and your ass is over here when he's over there. Or you go out and do something else".

The boyfriend is a free-loader who doesn't have his own place, so he's been flopping over there off and on for a year. I've come pretty close to having a "man talk" with the loser, but so far I have played it cool.

She respects it and agrees with it.

I know I can't really say much since I'm the one who actually had the threesome with her roommate, lol, but hey, that's life. If you don't want to respect the relationship, hit the fucking road, and I'll go fuck the hot bartender who's been all over my shit tomorrow night, and the blonde at the gym after that.

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You revealed your insecurity by trying to babysit her with the hotel room. But I get your point.
I disagree with this just because we've done this 4 or 5 times over the past year or so. It's been a normal thing when she visits her parents. I highly doubt she's seen it as insecurity.
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It's really easy. This is what I told my gf after her roommate and boyfriend tried a threesome:

"They've tried to have a threesome with you, your roommate straight up asked you a week ago, it's a known fact the boyfriend really likes you. Respect the relationship, and your ass is over here when he's over there. Or you go out and do something else".

The boyfriend is a free-loader who doesn't have his own place, so he's been flopping over there off and on for a year. I've come pretty close to having a "man talk" with the loser, but so far I have played it cool.

She respects it and agrees with it.

I know I can't really say much since I'm the one who actually had the threesome with her roommate, lol, but hey, that's life. If you don't want to respect the relationship, hit the fucking road, and I'll go fuck the hot bartender who's been all over my shit tomorrow night, and the blonde at the gym after that.
I'd doubt that you can keep track of where he is 24/7, am I right? Doesn't it have more to do with you having trust for her rather than putting your foot down on who she can and can't hang out with and dictating where she can and can't be at any given time? I think it sounds good for the most part but it doesn't sound realistic because husbands and wives cheat on each other all of the time and they actually live together. Both of our girlfriends live with their roommates that they've had menage a trois with and there's no way possible to tell who's coming and going at any given time that we aren't there.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:05 am 
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It's a relationship satisfaction thing, op. If a girl is more satisfied in her relationship with you than her relationship with her bestfriend, then there will be no dick sucking on Thursday.
I just posed this scenario to three of the girls I worked with. Two of them seem to side with Neo87 and said they would feel an obligation to pay back their friend for the favor even if they were in good relationships. The third one said that she would give the guy a hand job at the most. The pessimist in me knows that if she were to go that far than she would probably be convinced to do more in the heat of the moment. The thing that stuck out is when one of them said that menages are more about fun than emotion and lots of girls don't think of it as cheating even though she wouldn't allow her boyfriend to have one without her. Woman logic, or more accurately, woman illogic.
What women say and what they actually do are two different things. Most women do not achieve ONE vaginal orgasm with their partners. If you belong to the rare breed of men who can give women that, their relationship satisfaction with you will shoot sky high. Even habitual cheaters turn into loyal and submissive girlfriends.

What you can do for your peace of mind is to learn how to belong to those rare breed of men who can give women MULTIPLE vaginal orgasms. Dominance and masculinity will help but knowledge and technical skills are the main ingredients that will give women a cornucopia of endless pleasures.

Women do not want to lose a rare posession that gives them so much pleasure. You cannot watch them 24x7. The potential for loss; however, will keep them in check.

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I disagree with this just because we've done this 4 or 5 times over the past year or so. It's been a normal thing when she visits her parents. I highly doubt she's seen it as insecurity.
It came from a place of insecurity, so anyone can see it as that. Will she? Who knows.
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I'd doubt that you can keep track of where he is 24/7, am I right? Doesn't it have more to do with you having trust for her rather than putting your foot down on who she can and can't hang out with and dictating where she can and can't be at any given time? I think it sounds good for the most part but it doesn't sound realistic because husbands and wives cheat on each other all of the time and they actually live together. Both of our girlfriends live with their roommates that they've had menage a trois with and there's no way possible to tell who's coming and going at any given time that we aren't there.
I trust her. What I don't trust is her roommate and bf pulling shenanigans, which would cause me to "have a talk" which would make a mess of the entire situation (plus it would kill my chances of another threesome, haha).


It's a boundary of mine. I make it very clear. Every relationship has boundaries. If you are too afraid to express your boundaries, you aren't behaving in a dominant way.

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What women say and what they actually do are two different things. Most women do not achieve ONE vaginal orgasm with their partners. If you belong to the rare breed of men who can give women that, their relationship satisfaction with you will shoot sky high. Even habitual cheaters turn into loyal and submissive girlfriends.
I agree with Monsignor. They will not give a flying fuck about anyone else if you do this. They will be obsessed with you.
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What you can do for your peace of mind is to learn how to belong to those rare breed of men who can give women MULTIPLE vaginal orgasms. Dominance and masculinity will help but knowledge and technical skills are the main ingredients that will give women a cornucopia of endless pleasures.
Agreed.

This falls in line with my "women want an escape from the mundane" philosophy. Nice guys get dumped because they are BORING, not because they are courteous.
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Women do not want to lose a rare posession that gives them so much pleasure. You cannot watch them 24x7. The potential for loss; however, will keep them in check.

Agreed 100%.

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What women say and what they actually do are two different things.
I totally agree with this statement when it comes to women wanting to be seen in a better light. Admitting that they would have a menage a trois because their friend did one for them doesn't put them in a better light. I think they were actually being honest about this.
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What you can do for your peace of mind is to learn how to belong to those rare breed of men who can give women MULTIPLE vaginal orgasms. Dominance and masculinity will help but knowledge and technical skills are the main ingredients that will give women a cornucopia of endless pleasures.
Trust me. This isn't the problem or even close to the subject at hand.
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Women do not want to lose a rare posession that gives them so much pleasure. You cannot watch them 24x7. The potential for loss; however, will keep them in check.
It's such a cut and dry statement here and I can honestly tell you that multiple orgasms are not the end all be all that will hold relationships together. I'm sure you have your reasons for believing it but I have reasons for not believing it.


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It's such a cut and dry statement here and I can honestly tell you that multiple orgasms are not the end all be all that will hold relationships together. I'm sure you have your reasons for believing it but I have reasons for not believing it.
I don't give advice in absolute terms. I always base my serious advices on empirical evidence in terms of odds and which has a better chance of succeeding. Here:

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 0701385548

It's perfectly fine if you don't want my inputs in your thread. At least you're not rude about it unlike other dudes who are asking for help.

If you don't mind (since I have provided one of my reasons in the link above), what's your reason for not believing it?

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