Oh, I thought he used NaturalDoc's "no one is too busy for drinks" line.

The "let me know" is much better.

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Jesus man...

Of course not. I acknowledged that she was busy and asked her to let me know if she could make it

I was at the the gym, responding during reps on a tiny screen. Missed some, lol.

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Was pretty confused when I read your response. Speaking about gyms, she goes to the same one as I do so it might be interesting if she doesn't respond!

My response was probably the best out of all of them to be honest. Here's a snippet of a conversation with a girl who I met recently... who had a very nice yoga ass may I add!

Me "Haha, how was your workout?" 
Her "Yeah was good thanks" 
Me "Good"
Me "But 3 Squats doesn't count as a workout" 
Me "So you up for doing something this week or what then?" 
Her "I've got a lot of work for uni at the moment!"
Me "Everyone needs a stress relief"
Her "Hahah I know" 

I really don't understand why you think this is needy. I'm just pushing the flirty tone a little bit more because I'm confident enough to do so. Yes I'm juggling a lot of girls at the moment, yes I always have options, yes I have other goals in my life that I'm working on, but this doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to bang this girl. My game is pretty advanced, I know how to flirt and I know how to do it properly. You probably don't understand the dynamic of what I'm doing here and that's fine.

This is meant to be for OP to learn from anyway.

What does that snippet tell us exactly? Those are basically the kind of answers I've been receiving recently that made me feel as if she's gone cold on me.

Do you really care about her workout? And double text?
Letting her lead? "Hey, I'm celebrating awesome news at Bar X, 9. You're welcome to join".

And another double text?

Poor form.


Because you advised someone to argue with her that she really wasn't busy. That's needy.

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Seriously Bro you need to stop analyzing so much. That was a flow on from when I met her, I approached her as she was going to the gym by telling her how sexy her ass looked in her yoga pants, it's not about whether I give a shit about her workout or not, it's just social intelligence to flow the conversation and keep it light.
I'm just letting her know what I'm about. My goal isn't to bullshit about some awesome news at Bar X at a certain time. My goal is to get her horny and to come to my apartment one night so I can escalate and close. The worst thing for me to do right now is say "Ok well either way I don't mind" because it's not congruent with how things have been progressing since I approached her. What you're missing out on here are the undertones, the fact that I've already interacted with this girl and we're both kind of in on where it's potentially heading.

There was absolutely no advice given to argue with the girl. There is also no neediness in anything whatsoever that I have done or recommended to do, so I don't know why you think there is

Anyway man. Happy gaming.

So she didn't contact me in the end. Quite disappointed to tell you the truth, mainly because she didn't take the time to let me know either way, even though she's been online. But, I must say that I think I've learned from it and am grateful for all your input.

I've not really been in contact with any women since my last relationship and this encouter has spurred me on. I've been off Tinder for over a year due not having the balls to open simply because I was scared of getting to the point. Might reactivate that once I get some new pictures. Might be able to open when I match with someone rather than just sot on it.

Also, whilst I don't have a fear of opening, I don't do it as I know I won't be able to keep the convo going. I'll work at this and see how it goes.

Any more advice would be grately appreciated again.

Hey, just keep not contacting her. She may hit you up. It's not over, as it's only been a day. Attractive women with jobs have several orbiters going. Sometimes it takes a few days for her to get off the fence.

sometimes, by separating yourself from the guys bowing up her phone, you can intrigue her.

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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. She might do just that or maybe not. Just know I'm done with contacting her first. I understand that it's still early days, it's just that if someone tells me they'll let me know, I kind of expect them to do just that. It might sound petty, or even needy, but it's because it's what I would do and it's also the right thing to do.

You're doing the right thing.

I have three core philosophies in early game:

1. Game is not always about what we can get "right now". Sometimes it's about planting seeds for tomorrow. Guys forget this and get super needy. Yes, you do want to be aggressive and go for what you want. However, when the outcome of these actions is not what you want, fall back with chill indifference. Hot women are not used to this. They are used to needy, emotionally-uncentered men coming unglued when they get rejected or temporarily blown off.

2. Always text new and newerish women as if you have three hot girls in your bed. Write this on a sticky note and slap it onto your phone.

Here's what Clint Eastwood (aka a guy who gets pussy a lot texts):

You: Hey Sarah, I'm hitting up Bar X tonight at 9. You're welcome to join.
Her: Sorry, can't make it, very busy.
You: Cool, have a good one.

Then he waits.

Here's what an emotionally-uncentered and desperate man texts back:


You: Hey Sarah, I'm hitting up Bar X tonight at 9. You're welcome to join.
Her: Sorry, can't make it, very busy.
You: Really? Everyone needs a stress reliever. Come on, it will be fun.
You: Sarah????

These are the stalkerish types women run from.


3. Always make them cum.

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Can't disagree with any of what you said tbh. The one I like is the second though. It's really similar to what I've seen in real life. My friends, as soon as they got into relationships, suddenly appeared attractive to the opposite sex. Girls would actually approach them often when we were out, whereas before nothing

No word from her yet today, but this isn't what's been bothering me all day. It's the regret of not making a move when I had the opportunity! She was the one who originally approached me, she spotted me first the second time, and she was the one who constantly hinted at me asking her out when we first started messaging. On the dates, I know that any experienced guy here would've had a field day.

I have many things that I've regretted with women, and most of them I can easily recall and the still annoy me to this day.

I've even been tempted to contact her again today. This won't be happening, but it's crossed my mind a few times.

Now, can anyone help with two quick questions please?

1. How do I forget about the things I regret? Or just get them out of my mind so they don't bother me as much?

2. When on these dates, how do I escalate them to be physical?

Thanks