Hey...

Learnt a lot from this site so far, but had a new situation today and didn't know what to do.

It happened twice in 10 minutes, just walking down the street with a mate when we saw these nice girls (both on their own) We didn't have much time to start and use an opener but wanted to. It was hard to make eye contact and share a smile (i guess this is the bitch shield :S)

Just wondering, how to look at them, and share a smile so you know to start a conversation etc.

Or even if just passing and having no intention of opening, how to get a smile rather than looking like any desperate creep.

Hope this makes sense...

Thanks

Andy

A bounce in the step, a slight upward nod (DON'T tilt your head down at them, that will show submission) and a smile that shows that you are just happy at the world is how I go about it. I almost always get big smiles back and sometimes a look of wonder, cause they probably aren't as happy as I look. Real confidence booster and if you have the time and they don't look in a rush, you can even say "hi" and start a converstation.

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Ok, I am getting a bit of good game on the streets. My suggestion would be to notice something on her and comment on it. Some of my successful approaches have been comments on tattoos, bags, t-shirt slogans etc.

In my experience, saying "Hi" or "Hey" or any form of short salutations are immediately dismissed and ignored. If they're hot, then they're use to hearing it ALL the time from guys. It bounces off them like bullets of Superman's chest.

I've stopped using those words in all my openers. They may have worked in middle school, when you're approaching your crush or in high school, when you're about to ask a girl to the prom. I tend to go more with, "Excuse me" then move on to an opener. "Excuse me" makes them stop and pay attention to my for that split moment.

OMG no, never use excuse me, according to the MM, excuse me translates to, "I'm sorry for bothering you, but could you please spend some time to pay me some attention" It's a immeadiate DLV.

Seen as the theory here is people only like to associate with other people who they consider to have equal or higher social value. Prob a bad way to open sets.

Most often when someone says that to me is because they want to borrow some change for whatever reason. Your personal experiences may vary.

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we let so many dreams just slip through our hands...
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How sad the answers to those questions can be?

In my (limited) experience, I usually dont say hi, hey or excuse me.. I just start talking.. Not babbling. For instance, if I see an HB with some crazy shoes... I might say, my little sister has those shoes.... Or, where the hell did you get those? True, its starting off with a neg.. But if you add a huge ass smile to that.. You are guaranteed to get something going.

Train your eyes to pick out popular items like a band t-shirt or a bag.. it dosn't have to be Gucci or Prada, just say something nice about it or the way they dressed. If not that, i'll shout out a quick Neg after they walk past to catch the attention or loudly whisper one to a buddy just as they walk by. I think i've caught most of the hotties that way.

If it it something like a band t-shirt don't make fun of the band as it may insult them and they'll probably walk away.

If you've got the good looks you could do something as simple as giving them a short wink or ignoring them alltogeather. That body language shows that you're running your own show and have things to get to. That's got them curious, and when you turn around and say "hey," they're probably already looking at you.

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Hey guys, first post.

1. Go up to one of the girls, and pretend you two are friends.

2. Say, "HEY Shelly!" (It doesn't matter what name, just act like you know her)

3. She'll naturally respond, "Do I know you?" or "I'm not Shelly."

4. You act surprised. You say, "What? Shutup, Shelly. Stop joking."

5. She says, "I'm really not Shelly!"

6. You say, "What? What's your name?"

7. She says, "It's Mandy."

8. You give a really cocky grin, and say, "Well, hello Mandy." It's important to convey that you knew she wasn't Shelly. You do this with a cocky grin and a change in vocal pitch and tone (lower, smoother).

9. "Where you going Mandy?" She answers you.

10. "Oh, you don't want to go that way. I just saw a wild looking bum, and he specifically told me he was going to beat up any girls named Mandy."

11. She laughs.

12. "He told me he's going to clear out in 5 minutes, though. In the meantime, you might as well wait here until he leaves." You've established a short time frame (5 minutes), so she won't mind waiting for you.

13. You've opened up the set, and you can engage in conversation.

14. If the girls say "It's been 5 minutes, the bums are probably gone."

15. You reply, "What, are you kidding me? Bums can't tell time. They don't have watches! You should wait 5 more minutes just in case!"

16. If they don't buy it, then hurry and number-close. Otherwise, you've bought yourself another 5 minutes to build more comfort and hopefully increase your chance of number-closing. If possible, use this time to set a second date (describing the second date). If you're with your friend and you feel the girl is a little nervous, you can set a double date. This will alleviate any tension for the girls. When you're on the actual date, the two of you social proof each other. Once you feel they're comfortable enough with you, you isolate and destroy.

When you use this opening, the girl will simply think you've confused her with someone else. She won't have her shield up.