Hello

I will be a senior next year and I have two separate questions.

My status among my classmates is not very high. They tend to find others to sit next to in class and the girls don't flirt with me though they seem to do with almost any other boy.
I tend to be very confident and I am also a bit eccentric which, combined with me having been rather quiet in the beginning and still being so occasionally, may have made me less assertive in the eyes of my classmates. Both I and they consider me very intelligent I tend not to take things too seriously if I am not interested. I don't intend to pick any of them up but I would like to raise my status. Have you got any advice how I might do this?

My second question is about attracting the ladies. I am not interested in those in a lower grade than myself and I'm not certain about those in my grade. The seniors will only stay for another four months so it is about time if I am to make any progress with them. Thing is, I have never been sexually active before, not even had a girlfriend. But as I have mentioned, my confidence in myself is quite fine and I think girls find me rather attractive aswell. Do you think I may have luck pursuing the senors and should I try in the day or at parties?

Thanks heaps

well i'll start with this cuz its easier than Paetar's :-p

You my friend sound just like me. Intellectual, but not a geek. Everyone knows of you, but no one really knows YOU. At the beginning of my junior year, I had 3 girls phone numbers in my phone. One lived across the street, and we shared rides to school, the other was my physics lab partner, and the other was someone I worked with. I had never had a girlfriend in my life (and still haven't, but for different reasons )

There are 2 possible scenarios for you though, depending on how big your school is. I personally attend a small school, with 824 students, 202 of those in my class. This made things hard, seeing as everyone knows everyone, and all about everyone's business. So describe your school to me, big, small, close knit, filled with cliques, urban, suburban, rural, etc.

Now for your second question, you shouldn't be too worried about women. Deffinitly don't let them know you are. The seniors are most likely out of your reach, just because they have such a short time left. With high school, things are slightly different than most of the methods out there. One reason is because you have to see the same people day in and day out, so you must prove you are alpha, not in a short period of time, but throught the year. Once again, this is largely dependant on the school you attend, and your standing within the school, so once I know more about that, I can help you out more.

Here are some basics for you though:

1. Girls won't flirt with you out of the blue. You need to open the set, and lead them into it.

2. A girl's attraction to you is based on three things. Your confidence, your ability to hold a conversation with her, and her friend's opinion of you. If her friends like you, you're pretty much golden.

3. Run game all day, everyday, on everyone. This includes guys and girls. If you're in Psych, then all PUAs are jelous of you because opening sets is so ridiculously easy. If not, pretend like you're interested in it. All girls will say their interested in psychology. Open with "So I was doing some reading for psych, and i came across this nifty (yes, use nifty, or some other wierd words. your vocabulary will set you apart from other people) test. I want you to think of.... and use "the cube" or some other set. i'll give you one of my personal favorites at the end of this post cuz it's getting long (what a suprize. i cant keep stuff short to save my life )

4. and for this last one (for now atleast, i'm gettin tired of typing) is imparitive that you read this correctly, and all the way through. DON'T stop half way through, cuz you won't get the right idea. Your friends make a difference in high school. You need to be able to get along with everyone. Have friends who play football, who are geeks, who are smart, who are dumb, who act, who work in the library, who are environmentalists, who do illegal things, who are straight-edge. You need to get along with almost everyone. It's ok to not like certain people, but not certain groups. Don't belong to a clique, be a "floater". Now for the important part. DON'T ABANDON YOUR FRIENDS. You need to get along with everyone, but that doesn't mean that your friend's arent cutting it now, so you need new ones, because that is not true.

So yeah, that got really long. I think you reminded me of my past self, so that could be why... Hope it helps a bit, and i'll get more spefic whenever you give me more details about your school and yourself.

Paetar, its great to meet someone with such a similer situation to mine . There's such a problem with kids these days not being as smart as they should be, hahah, jk.

Anywho, about that bitch of yours. It sounds like you're not activly trying to game her, so that's the approach i'll take, however most of these can be used as ways to start if you so choose. I'm sure you can figure it out.

Now if it were me, we would be arguing all day, cuz I never back down, and arguments usually end with the other person admiting I'm right, even when I'm not (this can work wonders with teachers and test questions ).

So then, I would personally make some sort of bet with her about how she can't leave you alone. Start off with some amount of time that you think she'll not only agree too, but also be able to complete. Then, when she goes off on you for losing the bet, you can go doubble or nothing, and extend the time drasticly. I'm not sure on what to bet, as I'm sure it is really different in Croaita, and if one family is much more wealthy than the other, it would complicate the money issue, but you could bet something like homework, a hall pass, etc. Get creative.

If she refuses the bet, then you can call her out on it. "Oh xxxx just admited that she is obsessed with me. She can't even leave me alone for xxxx. I think someone has a crush on me...." Then, you can use that as DHV with other girls in school

Hello

I think there are about 800 people attending my school and there are about 25 students in each classroom.
I would not call it a very closely knit school but that might be due to ignorance from having relatively little interaction with people. The school is in a suburb with many being rather wealthy. (I am not by their standards. I'm not sure if it is significant)

Hey guys, finally got time to update.

Anyways, here are my tips:

1. Learn from anyone. That is, on our path to self-development we constantly face new problems, limiting beliefs, shit like that (just tonight I noticed a big blocking belief). Thing is, have your friends - true, older friends (older cousin will do) - help you. Help you see it's not true.
If you don't have someone like that (seriously, that is bad) just write it down on a piece of paper, make a statement out of it, transform it into an affirmation (present tense, short and to the point, positively said - no negations!). Then, turn that affirmation around - and try to find new reasons for it - even the lamest ones. Just for once, see the world from different perspective.

2. KEEP CHANGING SETS. In a small town like mine, it is hard to keep changing your social circle and/or meeting new people and running the game on them. But it is very helpful. Just the knowledge "I can dump them, I don't need them, I won't see them again in my entire life" helps you to relax and remove the pressure.

3. Remember, you are not an intruder to sets. People in will not dislike you just because you have opened them. And if they do, think twice if you really want to talk with people like them.

4. GO OUT TO HAVE FUN. Nothing more. As weird as it may sound on a PUA forum, forget about girls. It is that trying to play the Game desperately on every female you encounter that fucks your game up. Just sit back and relax and enjoy yourself. As Style said, the best way to pick up women is to have something else to do.

Anyways, Carpe Diem and see ya.

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Update!

First of all, when you begin gaming the set, game all of the girls; because you never know WHO is available. I had a great set go to hell, because the girl I chose as my target and thus isolated turned out to have a boyfriend, and all of you know that in HS, people never cheat. She was attracted, but didn't want to betray him. Shit.

Then, USE YOUR SOCIAL CIRCLE. I cannot stress this enough; use your friends and acquaintances to your advantage; couple of female friends are golden, because they have friends that you can be introduced to and thus enter the set without any fear - or even possibility! - of rejection.

And about body language and tonality; Keep straight, don't lean in. And speak slowly, with a deep voice, and loudly. Go to youtube and watch someone give NLP lectures; they always do it slowly, INTONATING every word, speaking with a meaning.

Finally, don't get discouraged. If this night sucked, the next one won't. And if it does, there will still come a great night. And if people don't love you right away, well, take some time and banter a little! Joke, be confident, and T-A-L-K. When you are in a set, aside a little bit, and girls start to talk and you can't hear them, don't be afraid to ask "What are you talking about" or "So who are you gossiping about now?" (PS: A lots of time, you will get an "About you" answer. Use it, saying "I knew it!" or "Why gossip about me when you can talk to me?").

Okay, this is it for now. See ya,

carpe diem.

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to first understand this i need to explain some things about myself. social status is huge in high school, i have friends who are popular but at parties all they do is sit on the couch and they still hookup with chicks. i don't mean to brag but i am one of the more popular guys in my small town school so basically i know all the girls worthy of talking to. i have found that opening is almost pointless in high school. try to understand that asking for a girls opinion on something when you already know the girl serves as nothing really. i usually skip straight to attraction which isn't very hard cuz basically when i show interest in a girl they're eating out of my palm.

my point behind all of this is that high school gaming involves very little effort and paetar makes a good point in that you almost have to bring yourself to their level of IQ(make stupid jokes) but i also found stuff like palm reading and picking a number between 1-10 makes them really into you. i personally tend to have small town syndrome and am basically a small town celebrity, so i test myself by gaming older girls outside of high school. this ultimately hurts my game though because when i make my trips to a bigger city and try to game girls some aspects of my game is stronger then others, but even outside of high school girls still see social status as gold. if you relate yourself to the most popular person in the room and ultimately you take the spot lite and the girls with it

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Great job, good to see there are tips for high schoolers, the High School hallways are alot different than a bar or a club. It seems the best way to use the normal PUA's game is at the mall or some other large crowd.

i was wondering if you could give some more detailed tips on how to break apart the whole system of popularity. because theres a few HBs i have my eye on, but if they use the popularity system my chances to be with them dwindle down alot.

so how could i get past this? im sure negs are essential, since they see themselves superior to me. so if i pull myself up to their level, perhaps i have better chances. but i still dont know that this will do it. any help?

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do you play sports? if so play on a rep team and befriend the jocs/popular guys, if not still attempt to befriend those guys and if all else fails, like you negs are essential along with socially valuing yourself in every situation which you wish for the hb to notice/consider you.

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Read it whole, although it is long.

Do what you are best at. What is your hobby? Guitar? Animals? Sports? Be really good at it - and make sure people know that (gigs with a band, some save-the-animals action, etc). Be friendly to everyone, and socialize with every your friend's friend.

If you go out to a bar (I don't know how is it in your city, but here, on Friday and Saturday nights clubs/bars are literally packed with high-schoolers), use normal club game.

Also, be passionate. On a hallway, key is to get noticed (in a good way, of course). Everyone puts their social mask on and tries to blend in the background. Be different - talk to your friends in a hallway, say hi to everyone you know, and don't be afraid to laugh on some joke.

The thing about popularity is to get in the right group of people. When they see you hanging out with a jock (and he is having a good time) you are sure to be noticed.

Now this may come as a hit to you, but NEG's AREN'T ESSENTIAL. You can use them, but I wouldn't recommend it. Girls of our age are more than ever in their life insecure and emotional. Even if a HB acts like she considers you a shit, once you show her that you aren't interested she gets a blow to her self-esteem; and your value skyrockets.
Negs are useless in this age group; because mostly they are subtle, and socially not-yet-so-trained girls of our age may simply "not get it." Much better are C&F lines, or "banter" as they (AJ and Jordan at pickuppodcast.com) call it.

Simply said, show her that her looks aren't enough.
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You mentioned HB's. From my experience, girls who act and dress like hot babes (in high schoo)l are very boring conversationalists, and have too high standards. Also, with them you are never sure if she really IS into you, or is she just acting - because remember, everyone sees her as a hot babe just because she shows clues that she is available. Simply all the clichés about blonds come true.


If you have any more questions, check out my "On creating attraction" and "On creating rapport" posts in "Attraction and comfort building" part of the site.
Also, feel free to PM me anytime.

Carpe Diem.

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You don't know the future, you can't change the past. The only thing that matters is THE CURRENT MOMENT.

Is great to have people like Paetar, Lucid and guys that posted stuff here that want to help HS guys.

I live in California and my HS is pretty diverse we have white people, Asian, Latinos, African American, and other groups. I have not had a girl in 3 years but since last December( in 2007) i changed everything, the way i dress, my hairstyle, my posture, my tonality, my inner structure aand i got to tell you guys that it has work wonders. I use to be the guy that will stair at the alpha male, but know im that guy. I dont need numbers, a girl, a social group to tell me this because im finally align with myself and people react to that. So what im trying to say is just be yourself... well maybe your best self and that will ultimatley will get you what you want in life.

Things i do when i talk to girls.
1.I MAKE MY SELF FEEL AS THE PRICE AND NOT THE GIRL.
2. Neg; i dont mean negs that i know well make them feel like im a ass but i will call them Dork or loser if they messed up on something and after will smile to show that im playing. But this is not the smile that says "oops im sorry for calling you that" is that kind of smile where you show "Yeah i said that and im not intimidated by your looks".
3. STOP PLACING GIRLS AS GODESS when i talk to a girl i treat them as if i was talking to my silly girl cousin.
4.I put my friends first before any girl. So if im talking to my friend and a HB comes up and wants to hugh me i usually say "Can u wait a minute im talking to my friend".

Well i can think of more shit but will come back to post more stuff and i just want to leave you with one thing.

" YOU CREAT YOUR OWN WORLD and your mom,dad, teacher,girl ,friend,uncle,police cannot tell you what to think unless you let them influence you"
I will post stuff shortly



by the way if there are any spelling errors i apologize, my "girl-freind" is giving me a BJ right now.

finnaly a decent post for high school people - good to see usefull tips theres only one i dont agree with though not negging high school girls ive seen many guys using negs on highschool girls but they always use simple stuff, yes everything does seem to be dummed down in high school its quite strange to think that there might be a guy who has got perfect game in highschool but its too complicated for the girls, im 14 and in high school hoping to have perfect game when im 20.

before i go ill just ask a question as you guys are probly more experianced than me,
im thinking about my personal style more and more and do popular name brand clothes effect her view on you ? coz when i hadent properly discovered pua i had quite a rough time and i was asking one of my friends about stuff (half of it turned out to be crap advice) and one of the things he mentioned was name brand clothing that i should wear it, does this give the girl more confort and familiarity around you and help her establish what group you belong to emo etc? coz i cant see any other reason for it unless its a ultra expensive brand

Now if you want to fit in by all means go ahead, but you are just going to be another sheep in the pack. But dude it does not matter what the fuck the girl feels is what you feel about YOURSELF. Remeber she is not the price YOU are. So what i suggest you do is find a look that fits you. What i mean is that you wear something that shows your best self and that you feel comfortable wearing. What girls respond to is your level of confidence you feel about wearin the clothes your wearing. I see many guys wearin, baggi pants, with ecko shirt and 180 dollar air jordans and they still look like whimps how are just trying to fit in. BE THE ALPHA MALE.Now if you tell me how tall you are and if your chubby or stupid skinny so that i can tell you some styles that can fit you. Girls tell me i have great taste.

And also if your friend is the kind of person that gets alot of girls then listen to what he says but you should mimic his style, then develop your own style. But if he does not get girls don't ask anything else, for example you dont go to the baker to ask him about soccer you go to someone that knows his craft.

Tonatiouh8, nicely said. This is a big one; BE YOURSELF. I'm starting to get bored how many guys want to mimic the BEHAVIOR, instead of MINDSET of successful guys. You see, don't mimic his actions, his "lines". It is about adapting his MINDSET.

Think of it this way; It's not about mimicking the lines he says to girls, it's about mimicking the lines he says to HIMSELF.

This is the point where Swinggcat comes in. In his ebook "Real World Seduction" are couple of lines, that make your game really strong. Of course, there is also the "push-pull" etc., however I found the mindsets to be mind-blowing. I really do mostly natural game (except for The Cube), so this is what I like.
Mindsets are great, because once you are in the right one, you will say all the right things.

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ABOUT CLOTHING; Dress nicely. There are tons of advice out there, but I think it is about wearing nice SHOES and JEANS. Really, get some designer jeans, they are great. Pack some normal or good looking shirt and you will look great.

Also, facial hair can really make your face nicer. All you have to do is find right shape (no Lincolns, PLEASE) that suits the shape of your head.
The easiest thing is to shave everyday, you can't go wrong with baby-face. But if you are into experimenting, let it grow for couple of days and then shape it somehow.
One point however: It is hideous to have "a beard" when you have only few long hairs. Until it is nice and rich, shave it. I am lucky and have a good beard with 15 years of age, but this varies from person to person.

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Today's tip

Aside from being social, here is a nice little tehnique you can do to start flirting/teasing/bantering/or however you are calling it. When she starts speaking about something (hopefully vague and stupid, but everything in HS is vague or stupid so no worries here), start mimicking her in an overly girly/gayish way. Exaggerate it, so everyone in the group knows you are joking. She will hopefully laugh and start teasing you or busting your balls. You start doing the same and bang! you are flirting.
*If she doesn't start teasing you, tease her anyways.

So that's all folks,

Carpe Diem.

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You don't know the future, you can't change the past. The only thing that matters is THE CURRENT MOMENT.

Im just going to put a quick note then i got to get back to my awesome life. If you want to stop worrying about what people think about you do this exercise. Get a white shirt 1 size to big, and pour a big stain of coke on it and just go out to the mall and see what you feel. In the first 30 to 45 min you will feel weird but then just start having fun. Now if you want something more challeging the the same thing just open any one you can find and ask them what does the stain say about you. This exercise help me ALOT.

Talk to all of you later.
"Nor your clothes, wallet, house, gilrfriend is what you believe is reality"