well I was reading that mystery wrote in his Myetery Method book, that u need to "Smile and enter, and use any opener you please. And remember, though you are opening her directly, it's from a screening frame, not a begging frame." "If you see the girl from a distance and you've assessed the scenario to be a single, then you can wait there for her to notice you and then immediately go over or you can just go right over without waiting" "Just approach her and when she looks up at YOU, look her in the eve and smile."

Well isnt smiling at her, like a beta male attitude? lowering your value by conveying that u are interested in her? Cause a not interested man wouldnt smile at her IMO
Else, why a non itnerested man would run into a single girl, even if he uses many negs it sounds weird, cause if u went for her was with one purpose, and she clearly will know that uare trying to flirt her, despite the negs

Hopefully you can unlearn all of this alpha/beta male nonsense.

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I thought the key to get girls was being an alpha? at least according to mystery? specially with 8-10

have you ever approached?

The key to getting girls is confidence, intent, and presenting yourself as a sexual option. Get the 8-10 nonsense out of your head because it's nothing that you have to worry about if you have those three things.

You see the "alpha" guys at bars and clubs all the time and you'll see them get in their cars and go home alone.

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Me or no one I know would ever consider a guy that has to dress up and do magic tricks to get laid as an Alpha. Not that he couldn't be one, because Alpha isn't what you do, its who you are, but I just wouldn't be able to take him serious. It's just not necessary.

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the book by Mystery Method is like 10 years old and is super out of date and isnt based on real science or psychology at all

not even the evolution he talks about in that book is really scientific theory...

there are better PUAs out there and Mystery is a hasbeen now, really depressed, deported from the USA and a miserable person... not really a person you want to model

Definitely smile when you first open her. dont put thought into being alpha or beta... smile when you use your opener, ask her who she is here with, what shes doing after this, what shes doing tomorrow and where she is stays... then the conversation will stick to her. keep her talking more than you.

having her talk more than you, getting her to do that is key! hope all this helps!

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It turns a girl on when she knows she gives a hot guy a raging hard cock. Put yourself out there.

Theres something you've gotta understand about Mystery.... He HATED (HATED, HATED, HATED) to be rejected. Possibly the biggest cry baby ever. The whole "Mystery Method" is basically the best way to not get rejected by girls.

Which is cool... if you're trying to protect your ego. But otherwise, its a huge fucking waste of time if you're actually trying to have sex with a girl.

Smile and hit on the girl. Show interest. GENUININE interest. If she likes it, proceed. If not, move on.

What makes you think that showing your interested in a girl is beta? You don't think that women know the moment you approach them and strike up a conversation with them that you're doing it because you're interested? You think smiling gives it away, but randomly approaching them and walking up to them does not? Lol

Theres something called the shock and awe method that I saw on the forum years back.. You should look it up and check it out.

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hiding interest is beta,showing interest while approaching total stranger takes balls,girls also appreciate it

Just go to her and come to the point. Say something like this.
Can i ask you a Question? You are really cute. Do you want to drink a coffee with me?
Believe me, you will get many positvive reactions.

don't smile. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... adies.html

Scientifically proven to be unattractive.

Look cocky/proud or if not, look depressed. You probably will be anyways after the string of rejections you'll get starting out, but it gets better with time.

Personally I feel more comfortable interacting with people that look like they are having a good time and are smiling So I try to smile! Dont get so caught up in the alpha beta thing that you are second guessing your every move because it might be considered beta. If you are doing something because you want to and thats what makes you feel good because thats who you are then it's alpha.

Sarging should be fun. You are out to pick up women but dont get soooooo focused on it that you become a super intense pick up machine lol (unless you want to). Enjoy the environment and what you're doing and the people around you... and if you make eye contact with a cutie smile at her, you're having a great time and you want her to see you as the guy she is going to have a great time with.

I literally think Elliot Hulse answered the question of Alpha and Beta guys to the letter.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeAb-YPOJmg[/youtube]

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