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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:56 am 
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Cancel on her even though it has been 10 hours ago? I feel like we both know it was canceled, can you give me an example of what you'd say?
Pretty much like I said. "I'm going to run out for a bit, let's meet up another time."

I wouldn't care if she knew it was cancelled already.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:59 am 
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haha, just ignore the flake.

DON'T "cancel" on her ten hours after she was supposed to come over. She cancelled on you, lol. Don't insult her intelligence by trying a blatantly obvious power-reframe with a "cancel" text. You'll look weak and shifty. It's not dominant behavior.

What would a guy who's fucking another hot girl besides her do?

Nothing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:01 am 
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It's not always on purpose, Jack. They do it subconsciously as well to weed out the beta's.
Perceiving things as 'tests' is a sure-fire way to encourage passive aggressive behavior.

It's really your thinking that's causing you to feel a certain way, the person's behavior can only be a stimulus (nothing more) to your behavior.

Example:

A girl cancels out on Jack saying she's too tired to head out tonight after a long day. Another girl tells you the very same thing (both via text, both verbatim texts):

Jack frames her reason as being at face value "she's tired, no biggie I wouldn't feel my best going out with someone if I felt the same"

You frame it as a test "Fuck her, she's playing a game. She wants to see how invested I am I'm going to go silent on her for the next 48 hours"


Same girl, same reason (stimulus), different response. What's the difference? Its in the thinking.

The point? Nobody can EVER make you feel a certain way. It's your thinking that's always responsible for the way you feel. If you assume all women play games, u'll become a REACTIVE person and have a hard time with them. Rather, if you learn to READ the subtitles in their language, and appreciate and RESPOND to it, u'll win their hearts.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:07 am 
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haha, just ignore the flake.

DON'T "cancel" on her ten hours after she was supposed to come over. She cancelled on you, lol. Don't insult her intelligence by trying a blatantly obvious power-reframe with a "cancel" text. You'll look weak and shifty. It's not dominant behavior.

What would a guy who's fucking another hot girl besides her do?

Nothing.
I've done it a few times and got the meet up the next day or within the same week and invited my fb over to replace her for the night. To each his own.
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It's not always on purpose, Jack. They do it subconsciously as well to weed out the beta's.
No they don't. Women will more likely justify a guys short comings if they like them. Someone needs to bump R.C's shit test post.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:14 am 
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I didnt see the part about it being 10 hours old.


Depends when he messaged her. IF it was 3pm then ya no point cancelling if its 3 am. If it was 10am since their chat then by all means send the cancellation text.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:17 am 
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I hit her up originally at 11:30 am. It's 10:30 pm now.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:18 am 
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I hit her up originally at 11:30 am. It's 10:30 pm now.
Send it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:19 am 
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Yeah bro you should have def. been more "hands on" when you saw her. That probably sent her mixed signals that confused her and possibly made you look a little weak... I know you really like this girl but there is something important to the theory of abundance! Go out and meet a bunch more girls!! You dont have to sleep with all of them if you dont want to but just put yourself out there and become a better man. I have the same problem as you... a history of social anxiety!! And I know it sucks. But that may be why you're getting so attached to this girl. I know you've heard the term oneitis. It happened to me several times when i 1st got into this because i didnt want to face my fears of putting myself out there everyday and socializing with lots of people. For me meeting several different girls everyday is like a drug that brings me out of my shell EVERYWHERE i go and with EVERYONE i meet!!! Its amazing!!! Dont get hung up on this girl if she doesnt want you... go out tomorrow and meet 3 or 4 more!! And the next day do the same thing and so on and so on. Before you know it you wont even remember her name :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:27 am 
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Yeah bro you should have def. been more "hands on" when you saw her. That probably sent her mixed signals that confused her and possibly made you look a little weak... I know you really like this girl but there is something important to the theory of abundance! Go out and meet a bunch more girls!! You dont have to sleep with all of them if you dont want to but just put yourself out there and become a better man. I have the same problem as you... a history of social anxiety!! And I know it sucks. But that may be why you're getting so attached to this girl. I know you've heard the term oneitis. It happened to me several times when i 1st got into this because i didnt want to face my fears of putting myself out there everyday and socializing with lots of people. For me meeting several different girls everyday is like a drug that brings me out of my shell EVERYWHERE i go and with EVERYONE i meet!!! Its amazing!!! Dont get hung up on this girl if she doesnt want you... go out tomorrow and meet 3 or 4 more!! And the next day do the same thing and so on and so on. Before you know it you wont even remember her name :)
A history of social anxiety and now you're dating 3 new girls a week? You need to write a post on how you've conquered that. You'll be a hero to the guys that can't approach.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:57 pm 
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I'll just respond to a particular line:
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Me: Good morning, beautiful. I tried to visit you last night but the stupid security guard said the zoo was closed til tomorrow.
This is nothing but a canned insult. Tease her, but do it in a way that adds value and challenges her up to your level. The original concept of "negging" / cocky-funny humor was identified as a way to subcommunicate non-neediness, but the irony is that their actual use is outcome-seeking behavior which, by the way, is neediness in disguise. However, a canned line or routine can yield great results when used with care but here it was rather uncalibrated. You've already had sex, so you don't need to game her so hard.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:50 pm 
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I'll just respond to a particular line:
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Me: Good morning, beautiful. I tried to visit you last night but the stupid security guard said the zoo was closed til tomorrow.
This is nothing but a canned insult. Tease her, but do it in a way that adds value and challenges her up to your level. The original concept of "negging" / cocky-funny humor was identified as a way to subcommunicate non-neediness, but the irony is that their actual use is outcome-seeking behavior which, by the way, is neediness in disguise. However, a canned line or routine can yield great results when used with care but here it was rather uncalibrated. You've already had sex, so you don't need to game her so hard.
The scarcity energy which manifests often through validation-seeking, is something I've been preaching on for some time on this board. Tactics such as using forced re-frames, negs, and pretty much every other PUA strategy out there are used to manufacture the look and feel of the frame of abundance, yet only thinly veil the insecurities that lie beneath.

If you're worried about NOT sounding needy, you're being needy. If you have to sit there for half an hour thinking of a good line in response to her text, yo8u're acting needy. When you defer to MPUAforum.com for opinions on how to steer the interaction, you're being needy.

While I advocate the whole 'faking it till you become it' mantra (Amy Cudy Tedx Talk), doing so for many of you isn't enough of a catalyst for change.

You can start building a more abundant lifestyle by being honest with yourself. "Why do I feel so inadequate?" "Where are there glaring holes in my life style?", "What can I do to feel more attracted to ME?" etc..

The truth is most of you aren't even willing to take that first step, but rather go online to find the magic pill to bypass all of this. The reality is its the journey, the process in itself that is the most liberating thing you can ever experience.

Most guys struggling with women see the guy successful with women as an event. They don't see the process involved in how he worked and persevered, and failed (many many times) to evolve to what you see before you. You see EVENTS, not PROCESS.

Trying to NOT look a certain way is a doomed proposition. Work on yourself, change the energy about you (for you) and reap the benefits of attracting more quality women and really more opportunities as a whole as a result.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:58 pm 
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Amazing post, n2, I love it. Added to my personal collection of quotes.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:21 pm 
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Yeah N2 AMEN BRO!!! U speaks tha TRUTH!!!

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