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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:18 pm 
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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts
When I first seen your display picture I was thinking it was just an image pulled off google. But now I have to seriously ask... is that actually yourself?


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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts
When I first seen your display picture I was thinking it was just an image pulled off google. But now I have to seriously ask... is that actually yourself?
if im more attracted than my avatar would you be attracted to me?

further, deny the validity of what i say all you want, but you cant lie to yourselves

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All of your replies are condescending, pathetic and weak, not actual advice for someone trying to figure out how to avoid or deal with the fucking problem of women friendzoninga guy who pays for the date. "Invite her to your place"...are you effing kidding me? ON A FIRST DATE? in NYC? no women (that was met online or on street) is stupid enough to do that. How about someone who isn't a fucking 15 year child in here, give some actual, legitimate, real world advice to use or say when the bill shows up.
thank you. alotta guys dont understand that NYC is a kinda different
Not true. I have a friend in NYC that has taken girls home an hour after meeting them. It really depends on how you build rapport/comfort and her level of attraction to you.


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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts

Wtf happened to improving yourself and becoming that guy?

It sounds fucked up to say, but I really hope that the majority of question askers here DONT get laid more. Because frankly, the attitude is, whats the least I can do and get the most? You guys want to stay fat slobs who miraculously date out of your league. Ok, lets say NYC is a city where you gotta pay for dates due to the women. Well if you're unable to afford that, you're at the bottom of the social heirachy anyway, so why should a woman fuck you? Come on...is ANYONE improving themselves anymore in PU?


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Not true. I have a friend in NYC that has taken girls home an hour after meeting them. It really depends on how you build rapport/comfort and her level of attraction to you.
The one time I could have had sex after an hour of meeting a girl was when she was obviously looking for a quick screw. Her friend had just left with some guy. Go figure how she felt. Nothing weird required on my part. I wasn't looking, I wasn't single at the time and there was no real rapport established. I'm sure all she cared about was that I had good hygiene and was presentable. After enough banter and flirting I told her I wasn't single. (She was 39, I was 27 - by the way - and this was in Boston).

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Not true. I have a friend in NYC that has taken girls home an hour after meeting them. It really depends on how you build rapport/comfort and her level of attraction to you.
The one time I could have had sex after an hour of meeting a girl was when she was obviously looking for a quick screw. Her friend had just left with some guy. Go figure how she felt. Nothing weird required on my part. I wasn't looking, I wasn't single at the time and there was no real rapport established. I'm sure all she cared about was that I had good hygiene and was presentable. After enough banter and flirting I told her I wasn't single. (She was 39, I was 27 - by the way - and this was in Boston).

But this thread is about dates and the paying the bill...

I.e. Girls you've invited for a drink with you, one on one...

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Ok so im the guy who originally posted this thread chiming back in... Let me make my situation a little more clear. I have a job! Im also in school to get a better job :) I daygame every single day! I get phone numbers just about every single day! A good amount of those numbers turn into dates. To be honest i didnt read all of these responses because i was disappointed with a lot of the original replies i got. It seems like some of you just want to try and be funny, let me reiterate "try" ...and others are just dicks! I kinda wonder how many of you are REALLY putting in the work or how many are just bitches masturbating behind your keyboards to this forum. Im new to this forum and was really hoping it was going to be men trying to really help each other like brothers become better men! With that said... The best response i saw was to tell the girl (that ive invited for drinks) that im grabbing a bite with a friend before we meet up. THANK YOU FOR THAT! Good solid practical advice. Im not looking for a steady girlfriend right now... I want to meet lots of women and have an amazing time getting to know them... hence all the dates!! Most places where i live if they serve alcohol they also serve food. I want to go places where they serve alcohol for obvious reasons, it can help things along a little more smoothly. I just cant afford to spend 5 to 7 hundred dollars a month on dates ...U dig?? If anyone else has any helpful practical advice id love to hear it. The rest of you clowns and wanna be comedians start a new fucking post! Haha im not really mad or anything im actually a very easy going guy but it does kinda suck seeing guys knocking each other down rather than trying to build each other up!

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Set up the date, specify cocktails, set for a time after normal meal times.
At least that's my M.O.

If the date runs long, it usually means she is coming home with me, I sometimes offer to share an appetizer.

If it's early, (And I'm hungry) I'll say "Hey it's early wanna grab a salad?".

These are simple, and certainly not bank breakers.

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Ok so im the guy who originally posted this thread chiming back in... Let me make my situation a little more clear. I have a job! Im also in school to get a better job :) I daygame every single day! I get phone numbers just about every single day! A good amount of those numbers turn into dates. To be honest i didnt read all of these responses because i was disappointed with a lot of the original replies i got. It seems like some of you just want to try and be funny, let me reiterate "try" ...and others are just dicks! I kinda wonder how many of you are REALLY putting in the work or how many are just bitches masturbating behind your keyboards to this forum. Im new to this forum and was really hoping it was going to be men trying to really help each other like brothers become better men! With that said... The best response i saw was to tell the girl (that ive invited for drinks) that im grabbing a bite with a friend before we meet up. THANK YOU FOR THAT! Good solid practical advice. Im not looking for a steady girlfriend right now... I want to meet lots of women and have an amazing time getting to know them... hence all the dates!! Most places where i live if they serve alcohol they also serve food. I want to go places where they serve alcohol for obvious reasons, it can help things along a little more smoothly. I just cant afford to spend 5 to 7 hundred dollars a month on dates ...U dig?? If anyone else has any helpful practical advice id love to hear it. The rest of you clowns and wanna be comedians start a new fucking post! Haha im not really mad or anything im actually a very easy going guy but it does kinda suck seeing guys knocking each other down rather than trying to build each other up!

Lol what on earth are you talking about? You got suggestions on cheap food places, you got encouraged to start a career, you got a line to increase the chance the girl eats beforehand, you got encouraged to just invite girls to yours... Where was the knocking you down part? You're getting valid advice and opinions and I have no idea why you're so defensive or insecure that you see people knocking you down when they aren't.

I'm in camp with jack where I think your dating strategy doesn't make sense. If you're going on 3 first dates a week then you're throwing women and money away. Doesn't mean you're looking for a gf but some of these women should be sticking around for a second date where you won't have to pay. If you want to just MEET a bunch of women fine but I assumed you wanted a bunch of women in your life for dating sex or whatever. 3 new dates every week just means not many second dates.. Unless you're seeing 3 other girls in that week as well. That's not knocking you down that's actually building you up.


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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts

Wtf happened to improving yourself and becoming that guy?

It sounds fucked up to say, but I really hope that the majority of question askers here DONT get laid more. Because frankly, the attitude is, whats the least I can do and get the most? You guys want to stay fat slobs who miraculously date out of your league. Ok, lets say NYC is a city where you gotta pay for dates due to the women. Well if you're unable to afford that, you're at the bottom of the social heirachy anyway, so why should a woman fuck you? Come on...is ANYONE improving themselves anymore in PU?
the way i kinda see things is like this, im not interesed in relationships.

so for me dating doesn't make much of a point. if im willing to spend on a date, i may as well pay for a woman directly.


but i dont like dates, not in the typical sense where you and the woman dont know where ya stand. thats a waste.

if i've neen talking to her and i know things are going in my direction, yea i might pay for a date. but im not going on a date just to spend time with her. i dont know if you get what im trying to say.

no free meals from me

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Lol what on earth are you talking about? You got suggestions on cheap food places, you got encouraged to start a career, you got a line to increase the chance the girl eats beforehand, you got encouraged to just invite girls to yours...
Which is all good advice aswell. I can't really think of any better advice to give than this for his situation. It's simple, either find a way to skip the food part because he can't afford it or find a way to start making more money than he can. I guess you could go into the whole lover/provider topic. But right now I don't think that's what really needs to be explained.
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Ok so im the guy who originally posted this thread chiming back in... Let me make my situation a little more clear. I have a job! Im also in school to get a better job :) I daygame every single day! I get phone numbers just about every single day! A good amount of those numbers turn into dates. To be honest i didnt read all of these responses because i was disappointed with a lot of the original replies i got. It seems like some of you just want to try and be funny, let me reiterate "try" ...and others are just dicks! I kinda wonder how many of you are REALLY putting in the work or how many are just bitches masturbating behind your keyboards to this forum. Im new to this forum and was really hoping it was going to be men trying to really help each other like brothers become better men! With that said... The best response i saw was to tell the girl (that ive invited for drinks) that im grabbing a bite with a friend before we meet up. THANK YOU FOR THAT! Good solid practical advice. Im not looking for a steady girlfriend right now... I want to meet lots of women and have an amazing time getting to know them... hence all the dates!! Most places where i live if they serve alcohol they also serve food. I want to go places where they serve alcohol for obvious reasons, it can help things along a little more smoothly. I just cant afford to spend 5 to 7 hundred dollars a month on dates ...U dig?? If anyone else has any helpful practical advice id love to hear it. The rest of you clowns and wanna be comedians start a new fucking post! Haha im not really mad or anything im actually a very easy going guy but it does kinda suck seeing guys knocking each other down rather than trying to build each other up!
I don't really know what other advice you can ask for. We can't magically improve your funds. We can't do anything more than point out that if you haven't got the money for it, you should perhaps not invite girls to places that do food. It's just common sense really.

Lets take your 5 to 7 hundred dollars a month average it out and just say you're thinking you're going to spend 600 dollars a month on the amount of dates that you're going on. 4 weeks in a month. 600 divided by 4 means you think you'll be spending at least 150 dollars on dates per week. Lets say you spend 15 dollars on food for the date. This means you're going on 10 dates a week. Each date lasts 2-3 hours. That's 40 dates and 80-120 hours of time spend going on dates per week. Not to mention the time that it's going to take to actual meet all of these girls and get them to the point where they're coming on a date with you. We're not even taking into account taking them home and actually having sex with them here. So really we're looking on average around about 150+ Hours a month you're going to be investing into meeting girls and taking them on dates.

If you really are getting that many dates right now. Then honestly just invite them to yours, you'll be able to filter out the ones that are really into you then and I'm pretty sure you'll have a fair few options for just having fun with. Why would you make it so complicated for yourself if you have so many leads to choose from in the first place?

For some reason I really do doubt you're going on 40 dates a month and all of the girls are wanting food. But even if that's the case... no wonder you're fucking broke. Do you even have your own place to take these girls? It's cool that you're studying and that is definitely an amazing time to be meeting a lot of girls. I went out three straight nights a week sometimes when I was at uni (club). But in the long run you need to learn how to prioritize and how to use time and resources efficiently. Girls are awesome, Pick up is awesome, Sex is awesome. But the rest of your life should be awesome too, and that includes your funds.

All the advice you've been given is enough, now you need to decide what you're going to do about it.

That good enough for ya or you still got questions Mr "Yooo I'm so chill raisin' ma can of beer in ma hand, Wanna cum on a date babez.... ohhh I forgot to say... I'm so chillz I ain't got za fundz!"?


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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts

Wtf happened to improving yourself and becoming that guy?

It sounds fucked up to say, but I really hope that the majority of question askers here DONT get laid more. Because frankly, the attitude is, whats the least I can do and get the most? You guys want to stay fat slobs who miraculously date out of your league. Ok, lets say NYC is a city where you gotta pay for dates due to the women. Well if you're unable to afford that, you're at the bottom of the social heirachy anyway, so why should a woman fuck you? Come on...is ANYONE improving themselves anymore in PU?
Nope. It's about the quick fix, instant gratification / do the least amount of work possible for these guys.

If we can get through to that 1% of guys here who are actually willing to do the work, and just need a bit of direction then as far as I'm concerned we've succeeded.


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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts

Wtf happened to improving yourself and becoming that guy?

It sounds fucked up to say, but I really hope that the majority of question askers here DONT get laid more. Because frankly, the attitude is, whats the least I can do and get the most? You guys want to stay fat slobs who miraculously date out of your league. Ok, lets say NYC is a city where you gotta pay for dates due to the women. Well if you're unable to afford that, you're at the bottom of the social heirachy anyway, so why should a woman fuck you? Come on...is ANYONE improving themselves anymore in PU?
the way i kinda see things is like this, im not interesed in relationships.

so for me dating doesn't make much of a point. if im willing to spend on a date, i may as well pay for a woman directly.


but i dont like dates, not in the typical sense where you and the woman dont know where ya stand. thats a waste.

if i've neen talking to her and i know things are going in my direction, yea i might pay for a date. but im not going on a date just to spend time with her. i dont know if you get what im trying to say.

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Wow, talk about being misdirected.

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yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts
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