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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:40 am 
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Hey guys,

So I went out to an open park and I was just listening to music with my Dre Headphones. I heard a band play and went there, as I was leaving I saw a girl just stay on the outside and I walked past her, I wasn't going to approach but... I decided not to let fear get to me. I asked her "Hey what's going on here at the event" She said, they were doing a public music event, I joked and said this is our version of coachella. I asked how did people even find out about the event, she said you can find out from the states site, then she asked me where I'm from, I told here I live near by and we talked a bit about our ethnicities. She kept asking questions about me, I joked and said why all the questions are you trying to stalk me, and she laughed and I asked questions about her but she wouldn't say anything about herself. I did some cold reading on her from looking at her hands and then she said it was true, she smiled and nodded and just tried to play it off. I asked a few questions about her and she said Oh why so you can stalk me, and I countered her with no there regular questions and teased her a bit more, maybe not enough.

She kept assuming that I had a gf, and at the end she was saying you know most guys would assume that if I just say Hi to them I'm hitting on them, you know, shouldn't you get back to your gf, I said I don't have one I'm just dating and that I have a lot of women in my life. She asked what I did, I said I was a musician and she liked that cause she's really into metal and I told her I help people and give advice and she's like you seem so young. I told her my age (early twenties) she's like ya but you seem like your young maybe 18? Or 21, I said I'll take that as a compliment that I look young. My voice was spent so I was talking a bit high and didn't really have a flirty or sexual vibe. She also noticed my hair is dyed a bit, my eyebrows and facial hair is done and well-groomed so she's like oh are you one of those metrosexual guys. I said no, I just like to be clean and take showers you should try it some time and she'd like yeah I'm more dirtier than you. She also asked and assumed I wore make up because my skin was clean life if I had Rouge on, because my skin was really clear. I went with it, "Yeah I totally do, you're so right." Her assumptions made me feel very uncomfortable. I realized I have to appear more masculine. It actually made me feel sensitive and insecure looking back on it.

She was more talkative as we talked more, I kept doing a small and subtle nervous tick by adjusting something on my hand. I explained the majority of my friends are girls and I don't know a lot of guys in my life, but the ones I do are very strong people and she's like oh like Alpha male types and I said yes. So she's like oh you have lots of girls like most of my friends are mostly guys so because you have lots of girls it means your a good communicator.. I'm like uhh ya, that's exactly what it means. I was acting maybe too goofy and she lost me at certain points.

I told her I did sales when she asked so she said oh that's why your here just to practice on people, I said

Eventually we started talking about spirituality and found out we both have the same background and even knew the same person in our community and I explained he was my hero and mentor and I said "Yeah I can get a bit emotional when I talk about him (cause he passed away) he was my hero" I shouldn't have said the emotional part but maybe I showed more emotion. I was very intellectual at times and spoke in a mono tone. I didn't really attract her exactly and make her laugh a lot. But I built some connection, comfort and then her mom came to pick her up and I started joking with her mom and saying she looks like a nerd cause her mom is picking her up. I said I have to go, let me take your number and I'll text you and we'll grab coffee and she was hesitant about it and a just brought out my phone and made her put it in and sent her a text right then and there. She told me she has a favorite band so I used that in the text and she replied a bit but stopped replying.

How did I do and what do you guys think I should do to get her to respond.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:45 am 
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Me: Hey it's *My Name* the handsome Italian

I text the next day
Me: Metal girl! Looking up "Death" but I want to hear their best song. (That's the band she said she liked)
Her: I love most of their songs their first two albums are probably too primitive for you though. When I first listened to them I didn't like them it was an acquired taste and I really loved the melodic guitars. I guess for starters you could hear this instrumental song
Her: *She sends me a link*
Me: I found it ethereal. The guitars rocked. What I like most in a song is melody, if they have that I could dig it. You'd have to show me more.
Me: This is the kind of music my band likes to play, what do you think? If you like it, you might get VIP tickets to our show. Special deal 40% off, ha *I send a link to a video*

No reply. It's been 2 days and she most likely won't reply.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 6:01 am 
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Two things...the first may be a little nitpicky. When you talk about not having a girlfriend but have a lot of women in your life is not something that you want to verbally communicate in a direct manner. You want her to feel that you have options when it comes to women, you just don't need to say it.

Secondly...you told her that you wanted to meet up again and that was the purpose of getting her number. You didn't do that.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 6:55 am 
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I see, I thought maybe it was too early to do in the text. I think I over texted as well.

Should I just text her and invite her somewhere or are things just st right now and there's no hope.

Also, what do you think about the challenges she threw at me. I felt pretty uncomfortable about what she was saying.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 7:07 am 
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I see, I thought maybe it was too early to do in the text. I think I over texted as well.

Should I just text her and invite her somewhere or are things just st right now and there's no hope.

Also, what do you think about the challenges she threw at me. I felt pretty uncomfortable about what she was saying.
I think you should text her an invite. If she declines, that's someone you don't have to think about again.

I also didn't see anything she said as a challenge. I simply read it as a question and it was turned into banter...and to me that is great. The fact you left that and the conversation kept going means that it went well enough.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 7:11 am 
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Alright, just to be clear by challenges I meant when she was trying to change the frame of me talking to her a M 2 F frame, or her saying I'm metro, and things like that cause of my dyed hair and lots of jewelry. You don't think that's too much?

Also, so I'm gonna go at point blank and say "Hey I'm going to X place this week, join me!" Should I say it like that?


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 7:37 am 
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Alright, just to be clear by challenges I meant when she was trying to change the frame of me talking to her a M 2 F frame, or her saying I'm metro, and things like that cause of my dyed hair and lots of jewelry. You don't think that's too much?
I knew what you meant and I think you are looking at it more than what it really is.
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Also, so I'm gonna go at point blank and say "Hey I'm going to X place this week, join me!" Should I say it like that?
Don't use the place that you're going as the reason for her to meet up with you.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 8:32 am 
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Woah, really great point! So something like, 1. "Would you like to meet up this week at the park?" That just came from the top of my head but maybe 2. "Hey, why don't you join me this week at the park"

Is 1 or 2 more of what you meant OR... what's a better way to phrase it


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 2:20 pm 
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Woah, really great point! So something like, 1. "Would you like to meet up this week at the park?" That just came from the top of my head but maybe 2. "Hey, why don't you join me this week at the park"

Is 1 or 2 more of what you meant OR... what's a better way to phrase it
I think #2 is better because it seems like you are assuming that she will want to join you.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 2:55 pm 
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always sound definitive remove any vague language from texts when asking a girl out


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 8:10 pm 
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I see what you mean Jack and N. I really don't want there to be confusion. Maybe there's power is just putting myself out there. I have no issue with her saying no.

Jack and N, I'd really like to phrase this properly and be direct. This would be my 3rd text and I met her on Fri. It's been 2 days since I texted her.

Is there a better way to say this before I send it out?


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:07 pm 
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I sent a text directly after my last message on here.

Me: You, me, let's hit the beach on Wednesday, 7 PM.
*Next Day* Her: I don't think but we'llprobably cross paths sometime when im riding mi bike or when they have more concerts.

It's hard to tell if this is good or bad. Is she letting me off easy, or does she just not want to have a date feeling she's older than me and (maybe is in the mood for all that). She also kept mentioning that there's weird people at the area we met so maybe she's trying to protect her safety. As well.

What do you think and what's the proper response.


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:30 pm 
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She's not interested. No response needed.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:47 pm 
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Ya, I thought not responding would be the proper answer. But to a degree, it's hard for me to believe there's no chance. I know girls say one thing and mean another. What do you think her agenda was, was it like maybe I'll see you again under the right circumstances


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Tell me if I'm front here, I agree to look at things from a realistic perspective but why be do negative


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