I'm sure many have been in this position, I definitely have in the past. I've
Seen this girl about 4 times, the first
Time she came over we watched a movie we made out but I didn't try to hook up with her. The second time
We made out and she mounted me with clothes on but did not hook up. Third time
Didn't try and hook up with her. Fourth time, tonight, Valentine's Day take her out for ice cream
And we make chocolate strawberries and drink a little wine and I am fingering her and she takes off my belt but then does not do anything and goes home.
In the past when I was in this position I just stopped
Talking to the girl and she hit me up for sex
Months later. I figure that is not how it goes a majority of the time.
She either A only has sex with guys she is in relationships with, B is dealing with stressful life relationships
That make her not horny, C is not that attracted to me
But is using my time for whatever satisfaction she gets out of it, D thinks I am using her for sex, or some other reason that I hope I wil become obvious with your help. I'm not an amateur and I am okay with never
Having sex with her, but I am curious as to why this behavior is happening.

Hugs and kisses

Additional info I forgot about. She is 20 years old, showed up tonight in a black g strong with a matching bra, has a hip tattoo as well as a few others,
Doesn't smoke weed and doesn't party that much

As far as I can tell you haven't made move yet in four dates correct me if I'm wrong. If that is indeed the situation, there is your issue.

Can't you see a pattern here?

You seem way to passive about this thing, you are supposed to go 90% in escalation she'll do the other 10%. Escalate, you're a fucking guy here, it's not her job to escalate, it's yours.

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I think fingering her and sucking her tits is escalating but I can't make her have sex if she does not want to.

And I mean when she mounted me I did escalate and began to rub her pussy but she held back and didn't want to give it up for your boy. I know it is hard to picture who I am and what the interaction is like. I'm not
The type who keeps on desperately trying to have sex when she is not trying to yet.

Appreciate the feed back

LMR- Last Minute Resistance. This is when a woman puts up some form of resistance right before you successfully lay her because she start having second thoughts about having sex.

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Lol. She's taking your clothes off and you're rubbing her pussy and sucking her tits. She's in the moment and you are destroying the sensuality of the moment. I agree it's your job as the man to escalate, but you also have to know how to do it.

Her taking off your belt is different than her taking off your belt and grabbing your dick. Both lead to sex, but they are different paths to sex. If she takes something off of you, you in turn take something off of her. She'll go crazy. Create tension so when you touch her she'll feel like she's been waiting for that touch. Keep building on the tension so that she will crave sex rather than resist it.

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Outside the bedroom you treat her like a innocent girl, inside the bedroom treat her like a most expensive prostitute you've ever had.


EDIT: What I wanted to say is, just push things forward, you're in charge. It doesn't matter what the path is. Destination is inside of her. And she knows it.

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Yes thanks for all your input. She resisted me taking off her clothes as well, Maybe she is just not ready to have sex yet, maybe I am doing it wrong, I will pay more attention next time I see her and let you all know

A little cavemanish, but I get that point. I don't agree just because it's more forcing the issue rather than wanting her to want sex to happen. There is a huge difference between taking the lead and being in charge. A girl that is lead wants to be lead. A man in charge is giving no choices.

If you take the right path you'll encounter less resistance getting her to go with you.

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Soo much guys are so womanized and insecure these days I actually think a hairy caveman has more chance in situations like this

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Or someone that has good sense. I doubt that OP is insecure at all. He's actually trying and not stopping because of insecurity and actually keeps trying. Are you saying to keep going until eventually she gives in?

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Okay. This question is little vague so I'll answer in (from my point of view) two possible variations of your question.


1) Am I saying to keep going until eventually she gives in (if you're talking about that same night she rejected you) then the answer is NO! That's what the authorities call rape. If she doesn't feel like it, screw it! You did your best and you wont feel hurt because that's not the only thing that matters. But you'll make it clear to that girl that's something you want, and why would you put aside your wants and needs, if she wants to be your friend, fuck her! I'm not a girl to be her friend and I have enough friends as it is now.

2) Am I saying to keep going until eventually she gives in a long run? Hell yes. The first time maybe she wont give in, and "giving in" is wrong term, sex is mutual, so both feel nice, wanted and desired. Girls want a man who will push her boundaries, that's what I believe.


The bottom line is... What does the OP want? Does he want only to fuck her, date her, make her his wife and have kids?

I would never personally go for a women who would make me wait because she's not ready. I can let her slide the first time, but screw me second time and she's out. That doesn't make her a bad women, simply not women for me right now.

And one last thought about LMR: Women simply dont want to feel like a slut, when dancing in club they don't like unknown man to grab her ass because of the social label she could potentially acclaim (that she's easy, whore or something else) that's not nice. But that's how society works, unfortunately.

It's the same thing in bed, the better you are, the faster you sweep her of her feet, the faster you get her into the bed. She wouldn't want you to believe her she's a slut, she has to put some defense because she fears if she gives in too fast you'll use her and dump her. That's normal. And that's just how I roll.

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