"As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 13 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Get Into The Game: New Forum Members Start Here » General Questions




Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:29 pm 
Offline
Read My Book
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:08 pm
Posts: 5028
Website: http://www.EddieFews.com
Location: New York City
Every woman I talk to does 90% of the calling and the Initiating. Thats just how it is with me.

I also think its a bit silly of you to get overly wrapped up in what she means by what she says. Let her talk her shit man. Who cares? As long as you're leading it doesn't matter what she says. Let her actions speak.

For someone who actively has women in your life, you get wrapped up in some pretty basic shit.

_________________
Need Coaching? For 1 on 1 Coaching via SPAM, Phone or Instant Messenger - Email: EddieFews@Gmail.com

Show Support, Buy The Book: 'The Secret Laws Of Social Wisdom - Click Here

http://www.EddieFews.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:05 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
For someone who actively has women in your life, you get wrapped up in some pretty basic shit.
Yes. That's why I post/read here.

I believe that there is always a way to improve and learn in any aspect of life.

My nightmare is being a couch potato/tv junkie pining for "the good old days".

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Last edited by Arch Stanton on Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:57 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:06 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:50 pm
Posts: 2864
Quote:
Never listen to a girl when she tells her friends (and take a grain of salt with it if she tells you) anything about her relationship or what she wants in a guy.
Agree. You can never go by what they say, only by what they do. If what they say they want in a guy were actually the case, AFCs and orbiters around the entire world would never have enough time in the day to come up for air.


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:58 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
As many options as women have, most are not options at all because most of those guys are chodes and she knows it or expects and event anticipates it, often hoping to the guys she's initially attracted to "Please oh please be needy."
Lol. Probably.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:12 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:

See, statements like the last one are rooted in scarcity and failure to look at yourself and see where you're lacking. Been to, and lived in many cities in the U.S and countries in the world; its just a plain falsehood that to be with hot women, you require all these headgames and who's chasing who nonsense. I get where it comes from; its easier to find girls who need alot of validation and game playing to keep their interest ; its harder to look at what girls you get and accept that you need to increase your internal value and mindset. Just like the girl who accepts men who will hit them will think, well getting beaten is just part of the game.
I don't know man, this reads as kind of a platitude. Lots of "feel good" here but not much actual effective measures for results.

U.S. women have been corrupted by social media. They have ten guys hitting them up at any given time. They are drowning in dudes.

You better stand out (physically fit, humorous, charming, good in bed, etc). You are in constant competition.



Quote:
I even get the whole emphasis on who is chasing who; its easier to have a woman who is blowing up your phone and going crazy for your ATTENTION due to X mind game you're playing, than one who is crazy for YOU.
I see another platitude here. If she's calling you to meet, she's into you.
Quote:
I dont agree with it though, because the walking that thin line game of she's crazy for you if you're cold and you cant show any emotion unless its planned just sounds like too much work for me. You're reading a girl's messages like the FBI hunting a serial killer, if tomorrow you gave her a compliment you may lose her completely. All sounds so stressful, and unecessary, all that work for a girl, because you think thats just what it takes. I don't doubt that your experiences have given you this view that it's all this extra shit needed, thats why i say you should look at why you can only find hot girls like this.

Yeah, this is better advice. It's probably true. But, let me give you context:

I'm 40, and I don't date women over 30. There's a lot of shit a 20 year old frat boy can get away with that I can't. There are things a 32 year old can get away with that I can't. The greater the age difference, the more you have to keep it cool if you want to hang with really pretty 20-somethings. The girl in this thread is 20.

Quote:
As you said, you have to play your cards right till she's hooked, but from your previous description, she'll never be completely hooked, and once you show emotion towards her...poof.
That's a valid point.

I did show emotion to her the other day... and she seemed to respond okay. She spent the night last night.
Quote:
Im not knocking you, I actually admire that persistance...I'm just too lazy. Checking a girls phone and stuff to see whats up....having to even think i couldnt express myself how I wanted to? Thats work.
Remember though, I'm still in the early stages here. And if you look at the texts, guys who do that get obliterated/faded because it's feminine behavior.

Quote:
Lets be real, you'll be checking this girls phone again any chance you get to see where you stand with her.
Valid fucking point, and an insecurity issue on my part that needs to be worked on. But still an incredible learning experience.
Quote:
PS-Lol you know her friend didnt show you a text message from her...you saw it on her phone.
Yeah. I tried to edit the original post to show congruency, but that feature had expired. As valuable as the experience has been (applying it to all women) I'm not proud.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:16 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
Remember how you told me 9/10s will chew you up and spit you out. This girl is chewing. The moment you lose your flavor you are going to be spit out because you're playing a short term game that is built on creating negative emotions and her seeking validation.
I will agree that my short term game is better than my long term game (mostly because I get bored easily, or I'm too cold for too long). But, obviously I do care because the original post asked about long-term effects.


Quote:
If that's your game, that's fine and more power to you. The problem is that you adore her and you can't express, so you have to be fake until you can get your hooks into her while another guy is doing the same thing. The only thing that you can do right now is be her booty call and miss the ESPN highlights.
Yeah and he hit her up last night, too. She did not respond, but it's out there. However, she also shot down her other ex last night after getting asked out to a show.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:18 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
I was gonna reply, but it's pointless.
lol. Why are you always so fatalistic?

Quote:
You think beautiful women require games. Not to mention the instant pedestalization, but you'll be missing out on a lot of what you'd probably call "HB10" real high quality girls by doing this shit.
I've never used the "HB" term. And no, I don't miss out. ;) I really like this girl, and even turned down a request from two dancers to spend the weekend at my house.


Quote:
Quality people don't put up with this kind of bullshit, Arch. Neither men nor women.
Well, I caved when she asked to spend the night. Can't help it, man.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:43 am 
Offline
Ask a mod for a custom title

Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:32 am
Posts: 3904
Quote:
I don't know man, this reads as kind of a platitude. Lots of "feel good" here but not much actual effective measures for results.

U.S. women have been corrupted by social media. They have ten guys hitting them up at any given time. They are drowning in dudes.

You better stand out (physically fit, humorous, charming, good in bed, etc). You are in constant competition.
I don't know why guys have this idea that at any point in history, you didn't have to stand out to get a woman "out of your league." When have men NOT been in competition for the most attractive women? Like the average guy was just pulling hotties decades ago. There are many hot women who just grow up thinking, you know what, i want to be a lawyer, or a doctor or a teacher or something. They have goals. They have more things to think about than attention from guys. Sure, when you go to the bar and see the hot chicks who are extra dolled up and looking for drinks, they're most likely the type to have the facebook thats for guys to hit them up. But there are many hot chicks who just use facebook for friends, there are many hot chicks who just go to the bar to chill with friends, they'd rather be travelling, rock climbing or some shit.

Quote:
Yeah, this is better advice. It's probably true. But, let me give you context:

I'm 40, and I don't date women over 30. There's a lot of shit a 20 year old frat boy can get away with that I can't. There are things a 32 year old can get away with that I can't. The greater the age difference, the more you have to keep it cool if you want to hang with really pretty 20-somethings. The girl in this thread is 20.
Thats the thing man, you can either date the 20 year olds who you have to get down to their level to keep, or you can date the 20 year olds who are trying to get to yours. You can date the 20 yr old who compares you to a frat boy, or the 20 yr old who doesnt want a frat boy and compares them to you. Personally, I've never found a shortage of hot,caring, unselfish women. Thats not luck, its because I never compromised what I wanted, I never accepted anything I didnt like as its just the way it is with hot women. The girls who played headgames, I didnt seek out, and from the first head game I left her to find what I wanted. If this is really the scenario you want to be in, great, but if its not, the look into meeting the women you want to be with.

Whatever your ideal woman is, if to you that means you dont have to be afraid to express yourself, you dont have to check her phone to know where you stand, you arent competing with frat guys for....there are many women out there like that. Accepting less and rationalizing that well its part of the hot girl game is just a cop out for not assessing where you are lacking to attract your ideal.
Quote:
Yeah. I tried to edit the original post to show congruency, but that feature had expired. As valuable as the experience has been (applying it to all women) I'm not proud.
Appreciate the honesty.


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:11 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
This actually makes a lot more sense now. A 20 year age difference and she's taking a childlike role in it and you're not taking the adult role. You're not right for her (too old) but it's fun (not mature). I bet that if you started showing disapproval of some of her actions she would be all over you.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:02 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
Thats the thing man, you can either date the 20 year olds who you have to get down to their level to keep, or you can date the 20 year olds who are trying to get to yours.
That's what I'm doing. She's doing 99% of the calling, texting and hitting up.
Quote:
You can date the 20 yr old who compares you to a frat boy, or the 20 yr old who doesnt want a frat boy and compares them to you.
That's what she does. She said "you're a man, I'm done with boys".

Quote:
The girls who played headgames, I didnt seek out, and from the first head game I left her to find what I wanted. If this is really the scenario you want to be in, great, but if its not, the look into meeting the women you want to be with.
She's not playing head games. In fact, I've dated girls from 20-35 here, and she's the most mature. Her "games" were just her being drunk. She plays no games at all which makes it weird that I am. However, there is a delicate balance. She did not trust me at all at first.

Quote:
Accepting less and rationalizing that well its part of the hot girl game is just a cop out for not assessing where you are lacking to attract your ideal.
She's probably going to rip my heart out, lol. She's pretty much my ideal. Just a touch young.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:05 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
This actually makes a lot more sense now. A 20 year age difference and she's taking a childlike role in it and you're not taking the adult role. You're not right for her (too old) but it's fun (not mature). I bet that if you started showing disapproval of some of her actions she would be all over you.

She's all over me constantly. Her hands are always on me, she's always kissing my shoulder when she wakes up from sleep, etc. She spent the night last night and wouldn't let go.

I'm pretty much fucked.

I have not yet called her out on any behavior. Just not texting back for 5+ hours seems to let her know.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:12 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
Quote:
This actually makes a lot more sense now. A 20 year age difference and she's taking a childlike role in it and you're not taking the adult role. You're not right for her (too old) but it's fun (not mature). I bet that if you started showing disapproval of some of her actions she would be all over you.

She's all over me constantly. Her hands are always on me, she's always kissing my shoulder when she wakes up from sleep, etc. She spent the night last night and wouldn't let go.

I'm pretty much fucked.

I have not yet called her out on any behavior. Just not texting back for 5+ hours seems to let her know.
When I say all over you, I mean becoming submissive to you. Not having to worry about figuring out how to keep her around.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:29 am 
Offline
Ask a mod for a custom title

Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:32 am
Posts: 3904
Now I'm confused. How are you fucked? Because you like her?

And what behavior is there to call out?


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:24 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
When I say all over you, I mean becoming submissive to you. Not having to worry about figuring out how to keep her around.

Jack, she texts me to come over, walks straight from the door to the bedroom, then stands on the bed and strips without saying a word. she does all of the contacting and asks me "whatever you want I'll do it for you".

she's already there. I just get paranoid and don't want to fuck it up.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:25 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
Now I'm confused. How are you fucked? Because you like her?
Yeah. I know, shitty attitude. I hook up with women on a consistent basis and feel nothing for 99%. So when I meet someone special, I play prevent defense, which is shit.
Quote:
And what behavior is there to call out?

the trashy wet t-shirt contest. I just ignored her two texts that morning/day, and got a third at night begging to come over.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 40 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link