I think I played the game right. I just choked on the close for whatever reason. Lesson learned. Won't happen again.

Special flower? At the risk of sounding like a pussy...Yes! That's the whole point of game, isn't it?: to have sex with lots of women and to fall for the "special flowers" among them. If a guy's not doing that, I think he's missing half the point.

Six months is not unheard of when gaming committed women, especially when you don't see them regularly or for several weeks at a time. It's a painfully slow process. You can't ask them out. That's a date. It's too direct. They need plausible deniability. And they could be spotted by someone they know. Direct might work in some rare instances, but you'll scare most of them off -- especially the "special flowers."

Regarding the morality of gaming committed women: some guys are against it, some aren't. I'm in the middle. Nothing in life is black and white, including this issue. Each person just has to decide what's right based on the circumstances. I game single women, but this committed one just happened to come along and she was super cool, so I went with it. It happens. As for the kids, as long as they have loving parents who are committed to them, it doesn't matter if those parents are committed to each other. Better to have happy single parents than miserable committed ones. Mine were divorced. It had zero effect on me. They were both great on their own. That's for her to work out.

Appreciate your opinion!

Special flower? At the risk of sounding like a pussy...Yes! That's the whole point of game, isn't it?: to have sex with lots of women and to fall for the "special flowers" among them. If a guy's not doing that, I think he's missing half the point.

Six months is not unheard of when gaming committed women, especially when you don't see them regularly or for several weeks at a time. It's a painfully slow process.

Direct might work in some rare instances, but you'll scare most of them off -- especially the "special flowers."

the "special flowers."

Regarding the morality of gaming committed women

The fact that you've treated her like a special flower is EXACTLY why after six months you received a "thanks but no thanks" from her. Think about that for a while.

The fact that you've treated her like a special flower is EXACTLY why after six months you received a "thanks but no thanks" from her.

Do you think this applies just as much to married women and those in long-term relationships? (This is my first experience with one.)

In 'The Game,' Neil Strauss wrote: "If a woman has been married three years or more, you come to learn that she’s usually easier to sleep with than a single woman."

I've seen this theory elsewhere, too. The idea is that these women are neglected and taken for granted by their men, so you just have to step in and give them the attention they're not getting at home.

Obviously, you never want to look needy or like you don't have an abundance of choices, but I thought we could break a few rules in these cases and give a few more compliments, let them know we're into them instead of hiding it, and not act so nonchalant like we would with a single girl. In other words, give them the "special flower" SPAM (at least a little bit).

So your target demographic is vulnerable married women? Wounded like baby sheep, so you can pounce soon as you spot a limp?

Do you think this applies just as much to married women and those in long-term relationships? (This is my first experience with one.)

In 'The Game,' Neil Strauss wrote: "If a woman has been married three years or more, you come to learn that she’s usually easier to sleep with than a single woman."

I've seen this theory elsewhere, too. The idea is that these women are neglected and taken for granted by their men, so you just have to step in and give them the attention they're not getting at home.

Obviously, you never want to look needy or like you don't have an abundance of choices, but I thought we could break a few rules in these cases and give a few more compliments, let them know we're into them instead of hiding it, and not act so nonchalant like we would with a single girl. In other words, give them the "special flower" SPAM (at least a little bit).

Do you think this applies just as much to married women and those in long-term relationships? (This is my first experience with one.)

In 'The Game,' Neil Strauss wrote: "If a woman has been married three years or more, you come to learn that she’s usually easier to sleep with than a single woman."

give a few more compliments, let them know we're into them instead of hiding it, and not act so nonchalant like we would with a single girl. In other words, give them the "special flower" SPAM (at least a little bit)