Due to the issue I've been having with flakey numbers, I decided to push for i-dates more. Had my first one today over frozen yogurt with a very attractive latina fashion student I met at the mall (she's a younger sofia vargara lookalike).

It lasted about an hour and we exchanged SPAM contact details (she goes to fashion school in mexico city, but grew up in the US and is here visiting family for the holidays). I ended the date with a hug and kissed her on the cheek.

My plan is to text her tomorrow afternoon with the goal of getting her out for an adventure date early next week. She mentioned she wanted to go hiking at this specific park, but that she hasn't had time to do it. I want to ask her to do this for our next date, but I think it may be asking too much investment wise if she says she hasn't had time for it.

Alternative plan is to ask her out for bubble tea + hiking at a closer location or mini golf/ice skating/bike ride.

Then when I sense the buying temp is high during the date, pull the trigger to bring her to my place to "make dinner and watch a dvd."

Solid plan? Any input?

Always strike while the iron is hot.

YOU: What's your free time this week?
HER: Yadah. Yadah. Yadah.
YOU: Cool. Let's meet at xyz.

If hiking is not possible, choose a nearer venue, bounce her to 3-5 places, isolate, escalate hard, then f-close.

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I did ask for her schedule, but she didn't give a direct answer. And I didn't want to push for one and kill the vibe. And lol she already is isolated, I met her doing daygame.

Isolate in your apartment.

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Quit trying to be dream boyfriend by taking her on all these cute dates. Get her to your place. She wants it too.

Thanks majikal. I agree with what you said, but I'm trying to figure out how best to get her to my place. Are you suggesting I straight invite her over to my place for next date?

I have a bit of a logistics issue in that I met her in the city, but I live 30 minutes away in the suburbs.

I'm torn between meeting again in the city and bouncing to my place or getting her to come out near my apartment to make the bounce easier (but that requires a bigger up front time investment from her to actually come out on the date and I'm trying to set the compliance bar low - I think she's based in the city)

This is why we encourage to have the basic foundation. I.E. living close to where you pick up girls

I see way too many threads that are ' Hey, need to f-close this girl, but she lives in Syria and is a member of ISIS, how do i f-close?'

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Ok, I know my logistics aren't the best, but I think it's still possible to pull this off.

Of course. You will just have to get her to invest more or you will have to invest more and go meet her.

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Where do you live? Where I'm from, 30 minutes is considered local.

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Central Texas

Ha! 30 minutes is local anywhere in Texas.

IMO, you're making excuses to keep her going out with you and hoping that she'll make the first move to sex. I'm like Majikal and hate the little cute dates and I think they don't send her the right message. You're really saying that you'll jump through hoops for her to get sex. If you just invite her over, you're saying that you still want sex but are not willing to jump through those hoops. She may say "no" but still want to go out and you get to control if you want to keep playing along. Or she'll say "no" and not waste any more of your time.

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I don't totally disagree with what you're saying, and I have lost lays before because I sent mixed bf/lover signals.

But it's asking a big leap of faith from her to come to my place having known me for only an hour at the mall, and I would prefer to ask her to take that leap in person. I need to re-establish the love bubble and then pull the trigger when she's at a high.

So I'm taking a bit of a middle ground. I plan to meet her downtown to grab a bubble tea and "show her around" the city. Then when I sense the buying temp is high, pull her back to my place.

She's not from Texas, so she doesn't really know how far away my place is from downtown. If I ask her over straightaway via phone or text, she can easily look it up and now she knows how far away it is. Vs if I ask her in person and give her a low ball estimate on how far it is. Once she's in the car then, it doesn't really matter.

You - come join me for meal, I make an epic pasta carbonara. But you have to promise to keep your hands to your self okay?

Her - lol okay, I promise, what time ?

Or worse case scenario:

Her - lol no I'm not ready to go to your place yet (and still be interested in you)



By asking her you're taking the next step. You're under this illusion that if you invite her to your place, it's somewhat going to risk the connection you have.

That's horse poo. You should ask and really gauge her reaction so you can see how much compliance you have. Stop waiting for chemistry, make the chemistry happen by being proactive. It's only a little risk when it's before you've actually met

Play to win, don't play not to lose. Girls are expecting to be invited to the guy's place , especially after the 2nd date traditionally.

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Damnit you're right. Time to man up and take a risk.

That's probably the most useful post I've received on this forum by the way, thank you.