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Group think is not the same as common experience.
Four people, one of whom was espousing even more effort prior to "oneitis" being brought up, is "most of the regulars here?"

For that matter, what was this "medicine" for? I'd already given up on the girl; when Dragula offered that "medicine" it came with no advice whatsoever and then it touched off an argument longer than the actual discussion about the girl.

Some things are toxic without being helpful, and this kind of groupthink is coming off as more of an attempt to stroke your egos than to be helpful. What do you get out of saying I had oneitis? Because I know I got nothing out of it other than reviewing some of my old threads.

It's been a waste of all of our time, especially when JackZero had given me great advice before it ever came up!

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Dragula initial post was that you had oneitis AND to move on. You somehow act like the guy just came and shitted on you and didnt tell you to move on. That's the advice. I wish there was some play to tell you with this girl, but I don't see one. As to group think, I have multiple threads where I disagree with Dragula, Jack, Charles and I say my counter opinion. And I've seen them disagree all the time.

As to stroking our egos, you're wrong again on that front. The guys who want to stroke their egos are those "player master PUA's" who will be the ones telling you some complicated play to make. They'd be telling you "do this bro, then this and then this....it got my a few HB 10's sucking my dick afterwards." There is no accomplishment on my part or theirs to tell you to move on. It actually says we don't have a play for you. It makes us look like we dont have a solution to getting this girl. You act like telling you to move on makes us look like pimps lol. AND Dragula even divulged that he has a one itis now, so who in the fuck is stroking their egos here?!

And the craziest part is, you act like anyone reading that you went to a bar 3 times and made 2 threads on one girl, if they think oneitis/obsession, they must be group thinking. I don't know the bar is 5 minutes from your house. I don't know you do this with every girl. I dont know you learn better from focusing on a task and all that shit. Nor would anyone reading it. This is one of those times when you be a man and say yeah it does sound pretty obsessive to spend 4-5 hours to get a girls number. We're supposed to read that and think it's not crazy? At a certain pt you just gotta say, these guys think its oneitis because it sounds like a oneitis. Thats like showing up to a murder scene with blood on you and then when you're accused of the murder you're like, nah thats group think! You may not have onetis, but you definetely showed alot of the symptoms of one.

At the end of the day, if as you say you do this alot ie pussyfoot around asking a girl for her number, then STOP. If this doesnt teach, or your past times doing this hasn't taught you to go for it the first time and you're fine with wasting 4-5 hours like that then thats fine. One itis or not, you should learn NOT to waste your time like that. And excusing it with well its not one itis, or it was only a few hours, or the bar was close to my house is not gonna help you not make the same mistakes again. You wasted time. And maybe time isnt that valuable to you. Maybe the drinks were worth it. But I know for me, I wont want to spend more than 10 minutes getting a chicks number, nor spend a dime to do so. And if I caught myself doing that, i'd say it was a oneitis.

Again, you're talking as if I said here's how you get one specific girl...when I was telling you how to take advantage of the current situation and get more girls and possibly this girl.

In my opinion
1. There's this one girl
2. I haven't kissed her
3. I keep going to see her even though I don't have time or like the venue
4. I care what she thinks after rejection

All oneitus symptoms.

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Onoma is the most stubborn person on this forum

*in before the 6 pages debacle saying he isn't stubborn*

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I was actually referring to the previous thread where you advised I take another girl there to make the target jealous and read her reaction.

In my opinion
1. There's this one girl
2. I haven't kissed her
3. I keep going to see her even though I don't have time or like the venue
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I never said I didn't like the venue, I said I don't want to keep going there. It's not really convenient and I lack free time. I also never said "this one girl." I mean, it's hard to ask about a situation involving a girl without asking about the girl, but at no point did I imply she was special beyond being an attractive bartender.

This is part of my point, once oneitis was brought up everyone tried to find the evidence of oneitis. And once you're looking for something it's pretty easy to find, even when it isn't there.
This, specifically, is a misread. You might remember that I thought it was a mixed message, and that my reply was meant to elucidate a yes OR a rejection. In short I didn't realize her text was a rejection... which isn't the same as "caring what she thinks after rejection."

Again, what did crying "oneitis" accomplish here? I'd already given up on the girl, you'd already given me good advice. It was over, then suddenly we're arguing about oneitis for no apparent reason.

I'm stubborn, but not more stubborn than anyone still arguing with me.

Not really, because i'm not trying to convince you that I am right.

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Then you're not arguing with me, are you?

You did say that you only go there for her. Going back to that bar was only to see her.

The fact that it wasn't convenient and you have the time to spend there (one time on 3 hours sleep) says a lot.

Before or after the rejection it doesn't matter, you're only needy if you are actually needy. If you're not needy you won't come across that way. You actually cared about how it appeared to her.

Just like alcoholism, you will never recover if you don't admit that there's a problem.

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But I've already won, evidently.

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P.s. I will feel sorry for the girls that end up with you as a husband, Christ.

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If you think this argument is of any importance, (all of you, but especially the OP) then something is not entirely right about where your priorities are in how you prefer to spend your time, or how you would like to be spending your time.

And it seems to me like a way to deflect things.

Personally, if you want to not meet girls anyway, Like I do, I would also suggest you look into the concept of "sublimation". It's where you make something else vitally important when all you'd really like to do is fuck, and you pretend you do not like to fuck, and that you really care about that other thing. People all over the world sublimate sex, except in China. In China they don't understand the word sublimation :p.

Sublimating sex (what all people do to some extent, some very little, but the ones who do it very little are the ones who have sex all the time and want sex all the time (the latter part is everyone)) is when you think something else is more important than getting close to one another, or to another person.

You can sublimate your sex drive by having rational arguments for no purpose, for example.

Trying to be "right" .

Or you can probably do it by pursuing a career in politics. You can do it by wanting a "relationship". You can do it by becoming religious about something, even sex. Every sense of religiousness in your life should be banned. Expulsed. Expunged. Don't be religious about anything. Just be normal, sane. Religiousness is not the same as being passionate. Being passionate is something that leads to sex. Period.

Being religious is something that leads away from sex, period.

It's why all religions really seem or do, to abolish sex, as much as they can usually. That's what I have to say on this topic and nothing more.

I hope you realize I stopped being serious with you about 10 posts ago.

And you're still doing it. Making this out to be of any importance.

Who cares.