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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:37 am 
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Not good. Had two points of contact, a guy and a girl, both initiated by them. Talked with the girl for about 5 minutes and then she got bored. Possibly because I didn't buy her a drink. Still not sure how to play the drink angle as 99% of the girls I run into are just after drinks. The first words out of her mouth were her drink choices in response to me asking "what do you take?" (college classes)


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Not good. Had two points of contact, a guy and a girl, both initiated by them. Talked with the girl for about 5 minutes and then she got bored. Possibly because I didn't buy her a drink. Still not sure how to play the drink angle as 99% of the girls I run into are just after drinks. The first words out of her mouth were her drink choices in response to me asking "what do you take?" (college classes)

It's like you have already decided that you've lost before you get there. You haven't even tried game, you just got drunk and emotional and stood in a bar. There is zero structure. Do you have any plan of action in mind or do you just stand there waiting for people to initiate you?

You hate people and treat them like they are the enemy or they are parasites.

I urge you to see a therapist before you get back in the field with real people. You have too much hate in you.

P.s. I hope you don't have access to guns. You're fucked up in the head.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:42 pm 
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Redstar flashback

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Redstar flashback

He's on Amazon selling books that he's written about the meaning of life, and another one about how religion is fake and all religious leaders were mentally unstable lol - Jesus was real and schitzo, yet religion is fake, apparently.

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Do you have aspergers?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:19 pm 
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Women ARE the enemy. I want to have access to the resource they control, and I have to know how to out maneuver them in order to get it. Be it in a relationship or one night deal. I'm not going to let emotion limit me in my goal. I want something, so I go for it. I'm obviously pretty obsessed with it since I place the only real value in life on this pursuit, but so be it. Other things that I DON'T care about like friends and work seem to come to me fairly easily with little effort. But I find that most everything ends up a distraction that just feels empty when I could be out trying. But, whatever. Next weekend.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:22 pm 
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Do you have aspergers?
Not that I know of.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:32 pm 
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Women ARE the enemy. I want to have access to the resource they control, and I have to know how to out maneuver them in order to get it. Be it in a relationship or one night deal. I'm not going to let emotion limit me in my goal. I want something, so I go for it. I'm obviously pretty obsessed with it since I place the only real value in life on this pursuit, but so be it. Other things that I DON'T care about like friends and work seem to come to me fairly easily with little effort. But I find that most everything ends up a distraction that just feels empty when I could be out trying. But, whatever. Next weekend.
I love it when people say stupid stuff like this. It really puts an exclamation point on their failure. You don't like women, therefore women don't like you. If women don't like you they won't give you access to their "resource" and they don't want access to yours. It's a mutual trade but they are going to trade it with someone desirable.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:50 pm 
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I love it when people say stupid stuff like this. It really puts an exclamation point on their failure. You don't like women, therefore women don't like you. If women don't like you they won't give you access to their "resource" and they don't want access to yours. It's a mutual trade but they are going to trade it with someone desirable.
I started out by saying I have a healthy hate for women. I don't see any new information given since then. The mutual trade is me doing my stupid monkey dance I'm forced to do to get noticed, and them falling for it. I can't fool myself into believing I actually want to do any of this social crap. I enjoy playing video games all day and not talking to anyone. But that doesn't accomplish anything, so I work out and I go through the torture of being around people and attempting some sort of personality. And I assure anyone, that personality is a lie. The jokes, the playing around, the attempts at wit, it's all to get them more comfortable with me, and that's it. I want to get ahead in life, but I don't enjoy any of the groundwork. That part is 100% sadistic torture for me. I enjoy the end goals.


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You're your own enemy not the women. Not quite sure if this is a troll post but if it's not and you're on the level then there is no help for you on this forum; you should seek professional advice.

Just out of interest as a mind game. If you were given $10,000 by a psychology professor as part of a study all above board. And the criteria of keeping it was you had to share a % with me but if I turned down your offer we would both get nothing. What % of the $10,000 would you offer me?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:16 pm 
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I started out by saying I have a healthy hate for women. I don't see any new information given since then. The mutual trade is me doing my stupid monkey dance I'm forced to do to get noticed, and them falling for it. I can't fool myself into believing I actually want to do any of this social crap. I enjoy playing video games all day and not talking to anyone. But that doesn't accomplish anything, so I work out and I go through the torture of being around people and attempting some sort of personality. And I assure anyone, that personality is a lie. The jokes, the playing around, the attempts at wit, it's all to get them more comfortable with me, and that's it. I want to get ahead in life, but I don't enjoy any of the groundwork. That part is 100% sadistic torture for me. I enjoy the end goals.
How many goals have you achieved without putting in any groundwork? Nevermind...don't answer that.

You're a dreamer, plain and simple. Seduction isn't for you because you think it's a shortcut. You're a guy that needs to do more online stuff. Get some good pictures taken and put your best effort into making yourself look like a good catch. They will build who they think you are up in their mind...your only challenge will be getting them to meet up with you.

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There are women that will take money and give you what you want.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:52 pm 
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I started out by saying I have a healthy hate for women. I don't see any new information given since then. The mutual trade is me doing my stupid monkey dance I'm forced to do to get noticed, and them falling for it. I can't fool myself into believing I actually want to do any of this social crap. I enjoy playing video games all day and not talking to anyone. But that doesn't accomplish anything, so I work out and I go through the torture of being around people and attempting some sort of personality. And I assure anyone, that personality is a lie. The jokes, the playing around, the attempts at wit, it's all to get them more comfortable with me, and that's it. I want to get ahead in life, but I don't enjoy any of the groundwork. That part is 100% sadistic torture for me. I enjoy the end goals.
How many goals have you achieved without putting in any groundwork? Nevermind...don't answer that.

You're a dreamer, plain and simple. Seduction isn't for you because you think it's a shortcut. You're a guy that needs to do more online stuff. Get some good pictures taken and put your best effort into making yourself look like a good catch. They will build who they think you are up in their mind...your only challenge will be getting them to meet up with you.

OR

There are women that will take money and give you what you want.
Tried the online thing for 5-6 years. No success. Can't close there either for whatever reason. And I'd rather kill myself than get a hooker. I can jack myself off without the paid assistance of a woman's hand or vagina. I'm after validation.


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Tried the online thing for 5-6 years. No success. Can't close there either for whatever reason. And I'd rather kill myself than get a hooker. I can jack myself off without the paid assistance of a woman's hand or vagina. I'm after validation.
You're not willing to put in any work. The easy stuff doesn't work for you. Yet you need validation? You're thinking is fucked up. You're not going to get anything out of PUA to help you.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:03 pm 
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You're your own enemy not the women. Not quite sure if this is a troll post but if it's not and you're on the level then there is no help for you on this forum; you should seek professional advice.

Just out of interest as a mind game. If you were given $10,000 by a psychology professor as part of a study all above board. And the criteria of keeping it was you had to share a % with me but if I turned down your offer we would both get nothing. What % of the $10,000 would you offer me?
My gut reaction? I don't care about money. It's a means to an end. I'd prefer to have 51% of wealth in the world, but it's not something I worry about. But I'd obviously go for the 50/50 deal because it's the best shot. Now, if you're saying you don't have to know about the study, and I could say "Hey, I'm feeling generous today. Here's $10, and have a blessed afternoon!" then that would be the smarter choice. If you're looking for some sort of moral compass with this game, you'll find none, lol. As with most money transactions, it's business. And business is fully about leaving the other person with less than you get but making them feel good about the transaction so they will come back for more in the future. Giving them the worst possible deal they will be happy with and that will keep the relationship alive and healthy. Mutual usage of each other.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:10 pm 
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You're not willing to put in any work. The easy stuff doesn't work for you. Yet you need validation? You're thinking is fucked up. You're not going to get anything out of PUA to help you.
I'm willing to go out to bars, or nightclubs when I get out of this god forsaken city from time to time, and attempt to break through my mental barriers. My first act when I go on any business trip or vacation is to make the effort to ask around for the best option that night as far as populated clubs/bars and go there. I don't sit around and waste time, even though I get there and usually waste the time anyway. However, I notice in big cities there is a MASSIVE swing in population. This level of beauty that I seek in my hometown is all of a sudden talking to me like I'm a human being rather than going for the nearest 6 foot, ethnic-looking jock and ignoring me. ( And I say jock as in the attitude as I've long since passed up bar dwellers in physical stature ) It may sound like more excuses, but I noticed the difference immediately when I went to DC. It's insane.


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