I keep hearing I'm not a bad looking guy. And although I assume all things told to me are lies, I've seen uglier guys than what I see in the mirror. But regardless, there doesn't seem to be any magical combination of my looks that will result in a woman making the first move towards me. Realizing that I prefer to be in control, I doubt a female that did such a thing would be of any use to me anyway.

The case at hand is I am always 100% paralyzed as far as talking to women. I will spend hours upon hours at a bar or a party and not talk to any woman there, no matter how attracted I am. I come up with all the normal excuses, she's in a pack with her stupid friends and I have no idea how to approach that, she looks like she's here with someone and I don't want to have to beat the shit out of a jealous boyfriend, or she's too fat or whatever, even though I established being attracted to her already.

I suppose if anyone had a method of getting over that first hurdle of just approaching a woman, that would be interesting to me. Getting rejected over and over will always feel like shit, and it's the only way to learn. But if I literally stand there for 3-5 hours in a bar, saying nothing, that gets nothing accomplished.

The last time I met up at a bar with two female friends, I sat at a table with them, trying to find any fucking topic I could get them talking about. Eventually she told me some story about being mad about some guy sneaking up on her the other night and putting his arm around her. After that story, the topics dried up, she and her friend eventually got bored and went walking around. They eventually found that guy she was mad at, and flat out ditched me for him and his friend. Now, the amount of homicidal rage I feel when such a thing happens is neither here nor there. It's safe to say I can almost channel Hitler at that point. But it seems to me she might have been giving me cues to start touching her half way through the conversation, but I didn't and that's why they got bored.

Past this point I'm just going to start trailing off into pointless babbling, so I'll stop. If anyone has experiences that might be of relevance, I would enjoy hearing them. Anything besides "quit being a pussy and DO IT!". Because I know I'm a pussy and that's just not going to matter.

Jack

Your experiencing a condition called Approach Anxiety or AA. The way to get over it, IMO, is just go out there and force yourself into that uncomfortable situation. It's like a little kid being afraid of the dark. Once you turn off the light and make it through a few nights, you won't remember why you were afraid in the first place.

Secondly, unless you are an extremely attractive guy of star quality or an actual star...you are going to have to give up on the notion of women approaching you when you're out at a bar. Can it happen? Yes, it can...but don't expect it to happen. Why would women who get approached by men that aren't afraid to talk to them look over at you and say, "there's a better option"?

Get used to the idea of going up and talking to women if you want to be successful with this.

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Jack, you're quite messed up.

Let me tell you something, girls very rarely approach you and make the moves. You might get the odd exception but it really isn't efficient for one to rely on that only.

You make it sound you have some unique hinderance for your lack of success. You are simply at the beginner stage of pick up. You have approach anxiety. This is something everybody has and will never get rid of it. But 10,000+ approaches later I have control of my AA instead of it having control over me.

Models - Mark Manson , this is kinda the bible on pick up these days since things have evolved from 10 years ago mystery method style

http://amzn.to/1OcUq5U

I would get the audio version if i was you

Read my sig thread and take your life by the balls. I was angry virgin like yourself but I have worked my ass off at this stuff.

I met this 'model' last night. I pretty much take home a girl 9 times out of 10 each night I go out. She didn't burn my bacon though:



These days, women are just not even an issue at the slightest anymore. Gotta put in the reps bro, though

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Love this lol.

Also, OP... read the thread he told you to read. It'll probably piss you off quite badly and make you feel like the guys who get regular pussy are at some kind of unfair advantage, and you'll start making excuses in your head about how "he's probably just lucky, or looks like David Beckham" but watch when you come back and read it again after a year of applying yourself to this stuff. Genuinely, any guy can do it.

If you see a girl you like the look of, just walk up and talk so it's too late to back out. Do what scares you and you'll notice that it eventually takes something ridiculous to scare you the way "hello" used to. Repitition is the mother of skill

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AA doesn't slow me down either.

Met her on Monday or Tuesday and she burnt my bacon.

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Hahaha ^

Did your parents not mind, Jack?

RC and Charles Finley disses my selfie sticks, but I am trying to turn them cool:

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Is this picture stuff a pick up artist thing or what? I thought Dragula was just a perv with a camera lol (He is, but I thought he was the only one)

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You should see my porn collection bro

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Now one of those, I do have.

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Brazzers like everyone else?

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Meatspin, Lemonparty and Felched.

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I grew out of the dumb shit I used to say on here. Most of my posts don't represent who I am today at all.

I've tried over and over to do things I'm scared shitless of in hopes of breaking into some general anxiety part of my brain. I sometimes sit there and watch screamers on youtube endlessly, go on every thrill ride I can, and quite literally go into dark places where I usually avoid. And while I've effectively cured myself of any and all nightmares, it's almost harder to approach women. I suppose every fear is disjointed enough to need the specific experience itself in order to break the mysticism of it.

No option left but to start getting rejected by women, actively. Another fun Saturday night out, hoo-fucking-rah.

One thing I never seem to be able to let go is looks are more than enough for me to be attracted, it's like 100%. If she isn't cute to me, I don't give a shit. And when I know I'm far more muscular and better looking than some other guy, yet still get rejected while they don't, that instinctively calls my body into question. I know women are so utterly attracted to the douche with the loudest fucking mouth, and I won't stop until I am that douche, but christ, how can they be 0% attracted to male body parts? Maybe I'm just so focused on what attracts me, but you can't be sexually attracted to a blob of shit with skin and hair. It's not a human emotion. UGH!

Jack

PS- Thanks for the responses.

Girls are attracted to all sorts but you're totally disregarding that attraction is a feeling in the moment.

As in a slob that is pretty charismatic will do better than a gym rat who has zero social skills and is standing there awkward in the bar

Imagine if you were charismatic with a good body? It will defo give you quite an edge...

But your problem is that you don't want to work on the charm, you want to just moan and make threads with your rants without any inclination to hit the field with a positive attitude. Maybe you should save yourself some time and not try? Because I am telling you right now, the next 500 approaches will be full on rejection.

If you're not ready for that then this is not for you. It is a much worse feeling going to bar and standing around in your head and not even trying than it is to get flat out rejected by women.

I would recommend to go indirect and let your body do some of the attracting for you and take it from there.

Are you going to take action or are your threads just all about venting?

Come on

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Fri/Sat I always go out. No excuses. And therefore I'm out the door in 5 min. Whether or not I actually do something while I'm out is up in the air. Who knows. Got my charm and my condoms, we'll see.

Update

How was your night?

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