You made this thread to whine and complain to grown up masculine men who have their own places, their own careers, their businesses on the side, and their own stream of women which you don't have. Like many before you, grown up feminine men like you just want sympathy and NOT solutions. You just want words of empathy and NO actions to fix the problem.

Go to a woman's forum instead and get your sympathy and empathy fixes in there. Who knows? Some half ton whale might take pity on you and pound your nuts with her flabs of fat.

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Average age to move out where I live is 27. I don't know if I read RC's post wrong, but 18-21 is YOUNG lol.

I'm 26, I live at home with my Mom with no intention of moving out for a while yet - I pay to live here and I want to build a lot more for myself before I drain my money like that. Some are in a better situation than me and have moved out by my age, but I think it's smart in my situation to do what I'm doing.

I've brought a lot of girls home. If it's a girl who I don't want to bring here... I could always go to a hotel, couldn't you?

Lying about living at home though, is bad. Don't lie about it. Own it.

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So you're basically encouraging this 32-year old man child to keep on living off his mom, is this correct?

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I'm roommates with my sister and it's fun. We have a two bed room apartment, well 1 1/2 bedroom. I never brought a girl here but when I hook up with girls I usually just go to their apartment. Logistics is a huge concern for me as well but their are many options like getting a hotel on the whymm and being fun about it without making her seem like a prostitute. Also if you in Lodon (Which I've never been) I'd say you have many options just as in any large city. Parks, anywhere really, bring out the animal in you man. Noone here is gonna sympathize with you, just take everyones comments into consideration and look into becoming a stronger individual from it.

If you know you want to have a better life for yourself, you need to be proactive in doing so-work hard, stay healthy. BTW, I got rid of my car and bike everywhere as well. I take the train into the city when I want to party and have a damn good time doing it.

Your a prick. You think it makes someone more of a man if they have "businesses" on the side. I'm pretty sure I'm better looking than you. You probably have that pasty thin skin and go around eyefucking everyone. Telling girls a bunch of lies and spending way too much time trying to emulate your macho heros.

Not everyone has enough money to move out, not everyone who lives with family is a man child. You can have a life without a woman you know. It doesn't make you feminine.

Lol. I think j Daniels is just trying to explain himself. Despite being on £450 a week which can cover one months rent in Birmingham

It's more amazing that you have not even mentioned this in your entire journal

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Fuck off you shoe fag

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Have you not read any of the advice that's been giving to you? People have provided solutions for you and yet you're just being so defeatist. You could litrally jump over to Udemy.com and learn how to make some money to pay rent. I don't get it though, you say money isn't an issue for you, only when it's comes to moving? Hmmm, some how, pay if £100 for a hotel room 4 times a month to fuck a fuck buddy makes things cheaper does it? That's makes sense but it isn't an issue for you because you don't have any girls to take to hotels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzOhJ3mR8U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9VBMBS3qE

Look it isn't just about living nearer to the clubs, it's about feeling like an INDEPENDENT MAN. Something that is rare these days for girls to meet. Too many guys are fapping to porn in their bedroom that they have lived in since they were a small child.

My Dad allowed me to take girls back but still, I felt so beta trying to ask girls to do so....I have tried both gaming at home and gaming in the city centre, moving out was the best thing i ever did for my love life. If you're serious about handling this part of your life. Figure a way out so you can move out. The older you get, the more less of a man you are. You are really going to be 40 years old soon and still living with folks. This is the ultimate 'I gave up' lifestyle. It really is.

You're gonna meet some amazing girls but a lot will just flake at the fact that she doesn't wanna check in into a hotel or do it in the back of your car if she was to become a fuck buddy.

Grow up and pull your finger out. It really hasn't worked well for you so far has it? So do something about it, you chode. There is a reason why 20% of the guys are fucking 80% of the hot girl. It's Because you chodes make it that much easier for us.

Pop that comfortable bubble of yours, stop wanking, grow some bollocks and testosterone, being forced to be celibate is not worth a little saved money, a full fridge and being spoon fed till you're 50 years old.

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I staked my independence with the equivalent of US $1,000. When the money ran out, I slept in parks for two straight weeks, hungry, cold, rained upon, bitten by mosquitoes and driven off by park security.

If I didn't go through that experience, I wouldn't have developed a thicker skin and a go get 'em attitude. When I finally got hold of a job, I put in everything I've got to be the best in what I did. Rose up through the ranks, got paid really well enough to enable me to make a down payment on my own house.

I now own two houses, free and clear of any mortgage plus two commercial rental properties.

Most of us start from almost nothing. If you're not willing to risk your comfort zone and go get 'em, you'll be stuck forever holding tight to your mom's skirt. If that's your idea of manliness or masculinity, or maturity, then I rest my case.

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C'mon man. It's time to grow up. It's not hard to make enough money to survive on your own.

It's weird how you sound somehow annoyed, like it's an inconvenience to you lol. Maybe it's a typical case of reading it with the wrong tonality.

Mentioned that I live at home? Why would I? It's nothing to be proud or ashamed of. I also didn't mention that I've got brown hair lol. I'd say 50% of the people that I know who are my age live at home, so it's not a goal or a problem in my case. Also £450 is a little higher than I currently make, but a little lower than my expectation for the next few months.

I don't want to live in Birmingham (prices are cheaper where I do live, so your point is still valid). When I do move out, I want it to be with a girl that I like enough to live with.

I didn't encourage the guy to live off his Mom wtf lol. I said I pay for myself. I pay quite a lot to live here.

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lol

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Jdaniel - Not really annoyed, I just expected something else from one of the veterans, I guess you missed my smiley face though.

Regarding the OP though, SURELY you can not advocate living with folks at the age of 32? If you don't agree then that does in fact annoy me. The op doesn't need to read these glimpses of hope that he can stay at home because 'j Daniels has made it work'. You must agree that the OP needs to get the hell out of his wank bubble

It's pretty simple if you ask me, if you were a millionaire, would you continue to live at home?(regardless if you have a girlfriend or not) Probably not, I understand being frugal and being a cheapskate. At least just be honest about it instead of making it out like it's a pick up challenge that you have mastered lol.

I mean, if you're paying a lot to live at home, why do you do it then?

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Oh, is this addressed to me? Lol.

But of course. I think I mentioned in my journal a long way back that I rented a one-room apartment near the town center. I also mentioned in other posts, I think, that I left the house to my daughter and her mom since I didn't want my daughter living at the poorer (and violent side) of the metropolis.

Well, that was a long time ago. I now live in my new, second house near a chapel; built from the ground up.

The focus of my journal way back then was to learn the tricks of the international seduction community. The JackalRonin made a big impact on me during those times. I was just sarging a few girls per week before I stumbled upon the Jackal's team thread. After realizing that I'm not putting in that much effort compared with The JackalRonin's team, I upped the ante. That fast tracked everything. I moved forward and never looked back.

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