Hey PUA community, I would like to know what you guys think about this situation.

School started not too long ago. For my first class, there's this girl that always stares back at my direction when she unpacks her stuff. I know this because I have caught her doing it a few times over the past couple of weeks. There's this one guy, that looks like Mr.Bitches - that sits directly behind me. I'm not sure if she's looking at me or him. But coincidentally, when I stare back at her, she looks away. Usually she doesn't stare long enough for me to be able to smile at her.

I believe she recently got out of a relationship, but even in her relationship, she was still looking back here at my direction. Im sort of confused. I know, that I can literally go up to her after class and ask for her number. But if I am getting the wrong signal... and it turns out to be the guy behind me. I'll look like some dickhead.

I've never talked to her before. And because of where she sits, it makes this situation harder.

Talk to her casually as you would talk to a new guy in your class and see how she responds.

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Sorry, may you please elaborate

You don't have to start off with a direct opener bro. Just talk to her like you would talk to a friend and go from there.

For example:
You: Hey what was the homework for blah blah?
Her: Ah I think it was blah blah
You: Yeah this class is a little over my head sometimes. How are you liking it?
Her: Yeah its cool blah blah blah
You: Yeah you look like the good student type haha

(This is an incredibly general opener just to give you an idea of what to say. Come up with your own, since you know the situation better than I do. Your opener is almost guaranteed to be better than anything I come up with)

As long as it's indirect you don't have to worry about rejection because your intentions remain ambiguous.

If she's friendly, that's a good sign. Doesn't mean she's into you but it does mean that she doesn't mind your company.

All this said though, when you are talking to her don't forget to touch her. But only in "friendly" places. And for god's sake don't ever draw attention to the fact that you are touching her.

Few examples:
- Hand on shoulder to get her attention
- Put your hand on her back if you're leading her somewhere e.g. "Hey you need to get to class/gym practice/cafeteria right? I'll walk there with you *put hand on back for a few seconds and walk there with her*

All of this is to gauge her reaction and build sexual tension. If she reacts positively to all this then she likes you but may or may not be attracted to you. If she touches you then she's attracted to you.

If she's attracted to you turn on the charm.

Good luck bud

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But isn't it true that if a girl is interested in you, no matter what you do, she will say yes? What if I go along the lines of...

"Hey! My names frankie. You look very interesting so i had to come up and introduce myself. What's your name?"

I'll talk for a bit, 1 minute or 2. And then...

"I have to go now, i'm late for class. Why don't you put your number in my phone, and maybe we can go out sometimes."


Would that also work?

I'm not saying it won't work but it's more direct. There's nothing wrong with pulling direct openers in bars or clubs because you're never going to see those girls again. But if you get rejected by her, word will get around plus you have to see the girl who rejected you every day.

Since you aren't sure if this girl likes you and she's in your social circle I'd highly recommend you go indirect.

Also your opener is way too direct, here's how it looks to me:

You: *Formally introduce myself**Convey Interest*
Her: *Feign interest in conversation* *Politely wait until you leave*
You: Hey! I'm attracted to you and want to talk to you more. Could you pretty please give me your number?

Never ask a girl for her number. Just say "Give me your number and blah blah blah"

Also you've shown all your cards right off the bat. She'll know you're interested as soon as you say that and you'll become less intriguing.

This goes beyond the PUA community too. Scientists find that women are typically more attracted to guys who's intentions are vague. In other words, girls are usually more attracted to guys who they aren't sure like them.

It's a balancing act. Flirt for a bit, compliment her... and then tease her or disqualify yourself.

Example:
You: *After she has earned your attention* You know you're a pretty cool girl... it's too bad you're not my type

You: Ah I can tell already that you and I would never work out
Her: Really? Why?
You: *joking playful answer*

Also you see this girl in class everyday, you don't need to get her phone number right away. I'd say talk with her the first day for like 5 - 10 mins (longer if the conversation goes well).

If you ask for her number or give away yours before she's earned your interest you're going to appear desperate.

And what's more never show any interest in her before she's shown interest in you don't compliment her until she compliments you, don't tell her you like her until she tells you she likes you. Touching is the exception, you can do this right from the beginning in "friend" places because its so ambiguous but it builds sexual tension.

In short, go indirect. Keep it vague. Slowly flirt and give her more attention. *When she shows interest in you* Ask for her number ("Give me your number so we can...)"

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This. And if word of you being rejected gets around you are gonna spoil your reputation. I've experienced this and trust me it sucks big time, not only in pickup but it can also affect your studies. You might lose a good social circle because of this.

Also this a social circle situation snd since you are going to see her every day I would highly recommend you to play the "patience game" and don't go for the number first time, speciallu if you are going to use the indirect openers (which I recommend you should).

PS: you could say something like "Hey haven't seen you before in class.. You new here?"

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Thanks guys. These replies definitely helped me.
I've been studying outdoor pickup lately and so I thought that it would be the same for the people you see everyday.

Can you cite any sources about women being attracted to men with vague intention?

Course man. Here's a link to a peer reviewed general article on the topic:

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/22/2/172

You have to sign up to read the full report but you can read the abstract without any signup necessary and the abstract basically says everything you need.

Direct Quote from the journal article here:

"Participants in the uncertain condition were most attracted to the men—even more attracted than were participants who were told that the men liked them a lot. Uncertain participants reported thinking about the men the most, and this increased their attraction toward the men."

Basically, women were most attracted to guys who's feelings towards them were uncertain and were even more attracted to these men than they were to men who they were told "liked them a lot".

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Shit man, that's some interesting stuff.

I feel like testing with this =O

Thanks

Shit man, that's some interesting stuff.

I feel like testing with this =O

Thanks

No problem man. I never say something if I can't back it up.

Just keep in mind that you're aiming for ambiguous.

I've seen so many guys blow it when I give them this advice because they take it too far and actually lead the girl to believe that they dislike her.

You have to appear to be in the middle. Flirt, tease, show interest, ignore her.

Eventually she has to win you over but until that point you want to keep her second guessing as much as possible.

Let me know how it goes for you bud.

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I didn't take it as a advice. I took it as raw data to work with.

Advice is what you gave me now, and I will consider it.

Thanks Again Spark