Hi guys, I hope some experienced members can help me.
Basically this post is inspired by a particular girl, but I suppose it's applicable on a number of situations/girls, but I'll use this one for the basis.

So the background is there's this girl I see around my university, and it would not be unreasonable to say that she's the hottest girl in the entire uni. Seriously. Beautiful. And obviously very popular and socially proofed etc. Anyway, one of the places I see her is inside/outside the building which includes the HQ of my course - criminology, so I can make an educated guess that she's an undergraduate crim student, so maybe 18/19 yrs old (i'm a post-grad masters). Also I see some of the guys she hangs around with and they seem to be very pretty-boyish, athletic, upto date fashion (you know the type). And I'm not that!

So obviously I want to talk to this girl, but I am very intimidated by her beauty, which I'm usually not, but I am in this case. What I would normally do is go indirect but I find that difficult with 10's because I hesitate too much in the interaction and it often loses momentum.

I dont want to go full direct because 1. I'm not really sure how and 2. I don't feel I'm good looking enough for that with this particular girl.

Really, I'm thinking a semi-direct approach would be best. So how could I go about this? The only thing I have in my conversational arsenal for her is the possible course commonality. Also because this is at uni a lot of time constraints are an issue so ideally the initial interaction should last no more that 10 minutes. So basically I want easy-flowing interaction that will yield results relatively quickly and HOPEFULLY build sexual energy.

Before you answer, it might be best to tell a little about me.
I'm 27, but been told I look more 23/24.
I would say i'm average looking, however I've had 10's attracted to me on occasion (and my that I mean my looks, i.e Tinder).
I'm about 6ft3, have some muscle, but not muscular or fat.
My look/dress is kind of like Jax Teller from SOA but not as handsome lol.

I think that covers everything so I hope thats enough to yield some advice, thank you for reading!

You have the lost the battle before even starting!

There is not mother fucking 10. Bitches aint shit! You are the 10. If you feel as a shit compared to her you are setting yourself up for failure.

Half direct? WTF is that boy!

You are either all in or don't go at all. You are treating that girl as a fucking diamond gem when she is another grain in the sand.

If updating your fashion will make you feel better about yourself and higher in your eyes then do it. Though this a crutch.

I advise you to befriend those 10's you talk about and get comfortable around them . When you feel calm and collected and not like a puppy who saw the last golden bone on earth go to her.

Rule: Never mind read a girl's brain. You with your stupid insecurity and shyness maybe exactly what she is looking for that day. You never know. Always find the real truth by taking action.

Pimpin'Scout

This is a numbers game. You are banking on the one particular girl that might not even be sexually available at the moment in time.

The point is, you probably have to come across 10 of these situations and girls for one to be into you depending on your fundamentals/attractive qualities.

This thread isn't a sticking point. It's just hypothetical.

Learn some game, approach her and then see what happens.

Your mindset is pretty weak. You don't feel entitled.

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Tell her she's not a 10? Listen, you seem really new game, and I doubt you'll end up approaching her even if I did give you some line or technique that magically gets her on you d***. Basically, you want a perfect interaction with her. Perfect interactions don't exist. But that's what makes interactions fun you win some and lose some. My advice is just to go up and talk to her because showing up is the most important thing. I think your too needy so the interaction probably won't go well. Act like your just having a friendly conversation, your not trying to f*** her, your not trying to get her number, don't try to take value. Try to give value and the interaction will go well. Good luck.
Try some shit.
Cold read, dhv, NEG!!!

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Thanks Old Sport...

I have been living the game you talk about all my life and didn't understand what you said. Actually I had a look on this forum and saw these words:
DHV? Cold Read? Neg?

You guys make getting girls as rocket science. Learn to WANT girls and not need them. Too much thinking means subtle form of girl ass kissing.
What kind of language is this!

Pimpin'Scout

Are you calling me out old sport? Listen I agree that it isn't rocket science. But it's not rocket science to dhv, neg, or cold read, it's pretty damn easy. At the same time it's ignorant of you to hate on proven seduction techniques that should eventually come into our game naturally.

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Thanks Old Sport...

I agree with the poster who said that as it stands, it's over before it starts.

Immerse yourself in meeting women so that this one comes down from the pedestal in your mind.

Forget Tinder for now and get out there and mix it up with all people including attractive women.

Just approach her and be yourself. Just cause she's hot doesn't mean anything. I've actually been passing on girls who are considered 10s because they're very uninteresting.

Just walk up and say hey and let it flow

I don't think anyone is making it a rocket science. It is an art as such. The terminology he is using is typical in the PUA community and alot of it comes from the book that probably got most of the people interested in PUA and that is "The Game"

There is not one solid approach that is going to work for any girl. So don't be taking everything as gospel when people are giving you advice. But I agree with alot of what people are telling you....

By your post you don't feel worthy.... I think we all have/ or still do at times get this from time to time depending on your level. DO NOT APPROACH HER IF YOU DO NOT FEEL WORTHY!!!

Needy is probably the most unattractive thing for a woman. You mention her friends are all the athletic type, good shape, fashion sense and that you are different. This could work in your favour. I mean she probably has been about this type of guy most of her teenage years and wants something different.
And if she doesnt it still does not rule you out. You can still make her attracted to you regardless. The main thing I think here is to be confident in you. Once you master that then approach and do not take it as a life or death situation.

Some people said hang around 10's etc or even just approach them with and chat to them for no reason other than to get familiar round them. Don't rush but don't take your time either... She could be fucking the locker room by next week.