I'm about a year now doing nightgame. but I'm really stuck lately.. They recommend me to a lot of approaches to do and I do this but I'm getting really many rejected. and I dare say that I really am not ugly. even though I got the last 2 evenings really heavy rejections of chicks.
exactly if I don't remember what is right to say ... and there is so much theory that I also do not remember who to follow. It's really frustrating.

because every pick up coach also says something else in his theory ...
not that I've had no result this year.. but it could be many more.
Sometimes I really think of a good coach, but also costs so much money.
While there is a lot of free information.

I think this year a 50 kiss closes and 2 where I had sex with.
but the two girls I had sex with was not of night game...

I followed especially tim veninga because he also from my country and know how the women are here..
and also richard gambler, rsd, alex social, bobby rio..
Belgium is really difficult when talking about pick up..
the women here are really hard.

please good advice!

thanks alot

Probably thinking too much. Just for once try 'NOT to Follow' any one and just do what you think is right. May be that will help.

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Yes I have noticed if I just have a lot of fun and not too hard thinking about what to say next or what to do next I many more successful. sometimes anyway. I am also a hard thinker and that is also my problem..
then I sit to write everything and then I have so much I just can't remember.. pick up is sometimes still not healthy haha. I would sometimes too much result.. If I have 2 or 3 bad nights then I am really irritated.

You are approaching women and they can get the vibe INSTANTLY that you are trying to GET something from them (inside their pants).

You need to bring VALUE to the equation.

The most important thing is to have fun.
I can feel you bro. This happened to me too. What happens is we have developed a trait to be negative about life in general. When you are approaching or having that experience, you don't notice what went wrong. It always happens after a few hours (or 1 to 2 days later) that you realize "What went wrong" and "What should've happened".
Solution: Don't over analyze. Just live in the moment. But if you are continuously failing at something, it means you've come to a 'Sticking Point'. No need to worry.
Good thing - you are experiencing something atleast rather than NOT doing anything.
The best thing in this case (that worked for me) is to try something DIFFERENT. Post on the forum your specific issue.A lot of people will suggest different things. Try everything even if you think its not the reason. But do something DIFFERENT. Different is the key here.
Hope that will solve your problem.

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50 kisses and 2 sexy times suggests to me that you have the fundamentals but your closing game needs work, perhaps:

- You live 50 miles from where you're meeting these girls (logistics)
- You're not handling her friends very well and then the number flakes
- You're doing it all solo and puts some girls on defence mode
- Your chat is boring after you've kissed them on the dancefloor and then they speak to you and you don't come across as smooth anymore

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get over them. You should have all the information necessary before even finding a coach.

Information is there so you know what to do. Coach is there so you actually do it.

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First of all, everytime you read about a PUA method, think about the things that complement your personality, and with that, create your own style. About the rejections, learn about them, everytime you're rejected, think about what went wrong, if you can, write them, and think about how to avoid it in your next aproach.
as dragula said, with those results, you have the fundamentals, but your closing game needs to improve, adding to the things that he said, and if you say that women in your country are hard, i can relate to that, i live in Chile, and here the women are hard too, mainly because even if they want to have sexy time with you, they dont want to look like a slut, so they rejects one night stands, and how can you avoid that? easy, when talking to her, ask about thing she likes, and make plans with her doing those things right there, so she is not going to sleep with a guy she just met, instead, she is going to sleep with a guy for the first time that could end in a relationship or something like that, doing that turn off the "shield", even if you say that you are not into a commitment.

i know if a few coaches that are inexpensive and they are close to world class, message me about that if you want (not talking about me of course, people i have learned from)

also, always have mini goals while you go out. not just year goals. 50 kisses a year implies that you will get at least 1 kiss a week

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Forget about game and start thinking about "Core confidence"

The fact that you get dismantled after 3 nights of failure tells me your inner confidence is fucked up.

Dont worry about controling the girls. Thats impossible.

Control yourself. Control your mind. Control your life.

Build a life in which you can frequently approach at least 100 girls a month within day or night i dont give a fuck, girls are girls on the club, on the toilet, or on the sidewalk when the sun is shining.

You're a man 24/7

Stop bitching about your coaches , hit the fucking gym, eat right, fuck bitches and get money.

Nobody wants to hear your fucking excuses.

sorry for cursing alot i enjoy the toughlove route. No disrespect.

Peace & Love

Good luck.

ps.
if a club sucks, go to another club, say hi to every fuckin girl until one of them grabs your dick.

If every club sucks go out during the day. Run simple guy game, flirt, be alpha and you'll get laid.

No theres no tricks or techniques, is all natural.

All the coaches you mentioned teach good game.

Even my mom teaches good game.

Is simple dude.

Dont give up.

And no, no one gets every girl.

These coaches dont get every girl, and they dont claim to.

They're just not pussys and take alot of action.

But dont forget, HAVE A LIFE.

Other wise you'll be a needy creep.

Have a life and approach 100 girls a month on your spare time with good simple guy alpha game.

Garanteed you'll get laid more and improve your game.

I dont wanna hear shit from you if your going to ONE nightclub ONCE a week approaching 20 girls in a DARK fucking nightclub and then you complain about have you have no game and go back home to playing world of warcraft crying.

You know what i do after a night of rejection?

I wake up the next day, have my morning cofee, and continue with my awsome life. I hit the gym, i watch some comedy videos, i succeed in my career, i hit on girls on the super market . I DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT LAST NIGHTS REJECTIONS, because they didnt fucking matter.

fuck bitches get money all day :p

i know i sound fucking stupid but this childish mindset gets you laid.

no one gives a fuck about your "super cool game technique" specially girls.

They just want someone who's cool and kno how to have fun and loves life.

(i know i said alot of bullshit on this post, to all your knitpicky mothersuckas out there dont quote me, i'm just trying to get my point across on a personal level)

(I repeat if your a wannabe guru do not QUOTE my shit. We all know you gurus know everything. /bow) lol

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@DTRAk AWESOME POST MAN!!!!!!

you put me thinking! I should just go hardcore! Day and night game ... and i have to do many more approaches .. more a challenge. because even the best pua are rejected.
and because they always believe that they can get everyone, I believe this also.
but it's just your mindset.

My mindset is just fucked up ..
maybe I go better start working on it. what is your best advice on that?

just after that fucked up nights, I'm really just in a black cave..
exactly whether I have a complete black out.
my self confidence has now really just a heavy blow. just right in the face
someone said to me that I think too much outcome dependent.

I also always usually eat very healthy.
but when I've had a really bad night, where nothing worked.
I start a lot of sugars and sweets to eat. to send me back to feel good.

I know this is a bad excuse, but it is sometimes really hard to get out of that vicious circle.
i look then too much in the mirror.
and ask me than always wondering of I am now really so ugly, even though I know that this is not the case. but then sometimes I stay two days at home, because i feel my really bad.
also i comes with a heavy past and a bad school career that I feel really inferior.
and i have to much downs and but a little ups...

I am 22 in January and I just want more and faster results ..

thanks alot guys!!!

i appreciate it!

cheers,

jasper

Here's how i fixed my shity mindset:

Keep in mind the reason i give this advice is because i've banged a fuckload of chicks consistantly so thats why dont care what anyone says cus i went out and did this shit myself therefore i know who's real and who's not.

i have over 1000+ approaches under my belt for nightgame
and i'm recently getting into serious daygame , my approaches for daygame are substantially lower but my results have been extremely satisfying, such as a 10 minute pulls from the daytime, same night daytime lays, and several daygame dates. And thats honestly in under 100 daygame approaches lol.

keep in mind i was already very good at nightgame/fairly good understanding of women and social calibration befor i did daygame so thats probably why i was so successful.

I live in miami and i'm 23 years old. Been in the game since i was 16(who lies more men or women?) Old school guys will understand this :p

Anyways back to my mindset:

I took on meditation to relieve anxiety and be present, did that for like 1 year streight on and off went really deep doin it daily and shit and it helped me be more aware of myself

I do it frequently whenever i get a chance but not as hardcore, but the fact that i successfully made meditation a habit stuck with me so i'm useually very aware of shit and can focus super well on keeping bullshit out of my mind. Not sure if its directly corrilated to my meditation habit but ill just put that out there.

I read books, all the books i could on self help and spirituality shit.
Monk who sold his ferrari by robin sharma
The power of Now by eckhart tolle
The way of the superior man
Sex at dawn by forgot his name
Anthony robins shit.

I probly read over 100 books.
BUT

I didnt read 100 books then went out,

i was actively going out since the begining.
It'd be fucking stupid to be like

"Oh yea i'll go out when im rich"
or
"Ill go out after i watch all these pick up videos"

Thats fucking stupid, you should always be taking action and applying shit immediately

Pick up is extremely simple, extremely.

Other things i do that help my mindset

I write down my goals, i make plans for a good future, and i take action towards it.

I plan my days, everything i do daily should always add to my positive life.

I keep positive people in my life, reject negative people

I take on role models, i observe my favorite people and quickly learn what i want from them

And i apply it in to creating the type of life i want to live.

So basically i'm a fucking wolf.

And sometimes when your a wolf you do shit that no one else is doing because everyone else is a fucking sheep and everyone else gets the same fucking results because they are easily influenced by the opinions of other sheep and meanwhile the leaders of the world are fucking all the women at the flick of a finger and looking down at us behaving like sheep and laughing their assess off. fuckin cocksuckers.

But we wolves are coming and thats what they are afraid of.

Anyways, we all got a wolf inside, wolves dont fucking complain about living in the woods, wolves go out there and kill, eat, fuck, and sleep. Weather is a warm cabin they break into and kill the owner or a cold forest(lol)

Wolves dont give a fuck.

(i would use a lion as an example but lions are too chill) hahahaha

Anyways i hope i made my point

And to all you guru hippies out there dont quote my shit

kthxbi

The mindset is simple, you got a problem, you fix it.

No one wants to hear excuses, human beings are expandable as fuck, no one is special, theres thousands of africans dieing from fucking ebola and africa right now and they are people just like us, just cause your born in the UK or the US you feel like you are special and the world is hard?

please.

Take control of your life, and fucking kill it at game and at everything else you want in life, theres a solution to everything, yeah shit can be hard some times but you gota make the best out of it.

Theres people in africa drinking water out of shit infested canals and these motherfuckers are out here crying about a bad night at the club. lmao.

again i dont mean any disrespect im talking people in general.

Anyways thats a glimpse of my mind, hope it helps

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I think you're putting too much pressure on yourself. Just try going about your daily life and if you see a girl you want to talk to talk to her. Biggest thing is being comfortable and if you start of uncomfortable it'll just keep getting worse.

Also just say what you want. I always thought I was awkward but I noticed it was the other people who were awkward.

Just don't take it too serious

In terms of same night lays for nightgame, logistics is huge

When i am travelling and staying in 5 star hotels right in the heart of things, it is so much easier to get girls to come back (plus they feel comfortable coming to a nice hotel than a private house).

A 30 min cab ride can really put a girl off