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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:38 pm 
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Qq where were you wearing this shirt and what type of shirt was it?


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Just a casual button up shirt, one of those ones with no collar on it, and I was at home

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 Post subject: Re: Crap banter
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Just a casual button up shirt, one of those ones with no collar on it, and I was at home
So you were wearing a shirt inside at home? And I'm guessing you don't usually wear shirts? We're you overdressed at home?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:01 pm 
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I wasn't really over dressed, no.

I don't usually wear shirts. I'm not saying they can't comment on it. But "You look stupid. Not really HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD I AM HILARIOUS HAHAHAHA" doesn't really do anything for me.

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I wasn't really over dressed, no.

I don't usually wear shirts. I'm not saying they can't comment on it. But "You look stupid. Not really HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD I AM HILARIOUS HAHAHAHA" doesn't really do anything for me.

Ever consider that this actually WAS funny? I mean, I'm picturing you at home in a collar less shirt on, which kinda sounds out of place. Them saying it looks stupid sounds like a joke on the fact that it probably was stupid or out of place. I mean, it IS kinda stupid/weird to be trying to look good AT home with a NEW shirt. Which according to you is what happened right? I think if I were home in a new shirt to look good, someone came over and said, man thats too much...thats crazy, I'd probably laugh at myself and the joke because it IS crazy. Maybe they have boring lives, or maybe you just looked weird. Which throwing on a new shirt at home does sound kinda weird, especially if you dont usually wear them. If I had a friend who I was at their home and they typically dont wear shirts and I see them wearing a new shirt, collarless no less, I'd find it funny. At the end of the day, 2 people felt like what you had on was weird. Whether the shirt was too much or just something new for you, it's funny.


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Lmfao ^

Sorry for wanting to look good. I'll be sure to check out "How to dress like shit and be just like everybody else, because you're at home!" if I see any articles on it.

But no, it definitely wasn't funny lol. I had been out all day, and just got back.. I went upstairs, came back downstairs and then that happened.

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 Post subject: Re: Crap banter
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*Wears new shirt, which looks great*

Idiot: Why are you wearing a shirt? He thinks he's an accountant already doesn't he. Is that what they wear?
Me: Haha no...I just got home from being out.

Compared to:
*Wears new shirt, which looks great*

Idiot: Why are you wearing a shirt? He thinks he's an accountant already doesn't he. Is that what they wear?
Me: No, I just like to look good, and this looks good. (So basically I'm wearing a new shirt at home because it looks good = weird/funny)


J Daniels, can you not see that from your response, it's weird? Can you not see why someone if you answered the question of , why are you wearing a shirt, and your response is, because it looks good, that would make someone joke that its stupid?

Let's say I just got home from a job interview...I go home in my suit. At my place, my friend stops by. He sees me in a suit. He asks, why are you wearing a suit, is there a funeral lol? My answer is "It looks good." Then if my friend says thats stupid, they are not wrong, because I've told them something stupid. Man, these are simple things that people realize they responded weirdly and then laugh and clarify, "No..I just came from out. I wasn't home in this shirt just chilling." Your relatives saw something funny, they asked you, you told them a weird answer, and when they joke on that, you say the joke is bad. Whatever the case, you're were doing something you dont usually do, or at least your relatives had never seen you do ie wear a shirt at home. And instead of just acknowledging, yeah it's a different look, I was out...you give them an answer as if it was a shit test or something. Kudos on dressing well, but if someone asks whats the look about, dont treat it like a shit test.


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They were here before me and knew I'd been out. Nothing to do with a shit test. I did point it out to them that I'd been out (though they already knew)

I didn't put the whole conversation here because, well because I didn't need to.

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They were here before me and knew I'd been out. Nothing to do with a shit test. I did point it out to them that I'd been out (though they already knew)

I didn't put the whole conversation here because, well because I didn't need to.
So why did you treat it as a shit test? Who says they shouldnt react, what is there to react to?
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I know I shouldn't react, and it barely bothers me as far as confidence or anything goes.
You're skating around taking responsibility for something really simple. You dont usually... wear shirts. Whoever saw you in a shirt and asked, why are you wearing a shirt? You dont usually wear shirts. You gave them a nonsensical answer. Common sense says that they are asking you because you dont TYPICALLY wear shirts. They didnt ask you why did you wear THAT shirt. The answer should have been, I wear shirts now, or i was out and I wear shirts now, or something explaining why you are DIFFERENT, not why you picked a certain shirt. It's like you cant even acknowledge, yeah that was a weird response.

I recently got a new BMW. Friends have asked me why are you driving a BMW, when they are used to me in my previous car, if I say "It looks good....or I just like BMW's" that's a stupid answer. I just say "I bought a new car" because logically, saying that the car looks good doesnt explain why I have it now. And I mean that respectfully. But you cant give weird answers to people, then when they say its stupid, blame them for thinking what you said was off. It was. You didnt want to look reactive, ok. But you answered like it wasnt a legitimate question. Maybe your family ARE idiots, but it doesnt help when you cant answer simple questions and are trying to not look reactive. It's a stupid joke for a stupid answer.


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 Post subject: Re: Crap banter
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:22 am 
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"Because it looks good" is a perfectly fine answer to "Why are you wearing a shirt"

The reason I was wearing the shirt, is because it looks good. I like to look good.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them asking me why I'm wearing a shirt, either. The problem is the 10 minutes of "jokes" that followed it. The jokes about how I'm apparently a "social worker" (I'm not even studying that, I'm studying accountancy... could it be any further away? I then explained that, and they repeated the exact same joke... but changed social worker for accountant.)

Again, I was wearing the shirt because it looked good. "I bought a new shirt" would be more of a stupid answer? They asked why I'm wearing it, not how I'm able to wear it. But that's not the point. The point is the ridiculous attempts at jokes. Then I go onto Facebook and write a perfectly normal status to get the same.

I think you're viewing people on this forum as if everybody thinks they're Mystery or something... I keep noticing things like "typical PUA banter" and "treating it like a shit test" as if guys who like women aren't normal people or something. The reason I shouldn't have reacted, is because it would've shut them up a lot sooner.

It's exactly like the other guy said... not funny... and not even really a joke. It doesn't qualify as a joke at all. But hey, maybe my standards are too high.

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"Because it looks good" is a perfectly fine answer to "Why are you wearing a shirt"

The reason I was wearing the shirt, is because it looks good. I like to look good.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them asking me why I'm wearing a shirt, either. The problem is the 10 minutes of "jokes" that followed it. The jokes about how I'm apparently a "social worker" (I'm not even studying that, I'm studying accountancy... could it be any further away? I then explained that, and they repeated the exact same joke... but changed social worker for accountant.)

Again, I was wearing the shirt because it looked good. "I bought a new shirt" would be more of a stupid answer? They asked why I'm wearing it, not how I'm able to wear it. But that's not the point. The point is the ridiculous attempts at jokes. Then I go onto Facebook and write a perfectly normal status to get the same.

I think you're viewing people on this forum as if everybody thinks they're Mystery or something... I keep noticing things like "typical PUA banter" and "treating it like a shit test" as if guys who like women aren't normal people or something. The reason I shouldn't have reacted, is because it would've shut them up a lot sooner.

It's exactly like the other guy said... not funny... and not even really a joke. It doesn't qualify as a joke at all. But hey, maybe my standards are too high.
All I can comment on is what you wrote in this thread. And that one other person who said it's not funny, which was never in question doesnt negate the people here on this thread who have told you it shouldnt bother you. But which is it, are people usually giving you crap banter..if thats the case, maybe its how you take it...or are you able to joke with people often...if thats the case you wouldnt have cared enough to rant about a one off.

As to the Mystery thing, I'm sorry but you named the thread "Crap banter" and gave an example of a convo with a friend. And yes, I dont know alot of people who talk such elaborate roleplays with guys, let alone how someone can remember what was said. So it comes across like something from a PUA book. And as to shit tests, search the forum for the word reactive. 9/10 when someone uses it its to a "shit test."
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The reason I shouldn't have reacted, is because it would've shut them up a lot sooner.
Make up your mind, are they annoying family members, or did they just go overboard because you reacted. See, you cant have it both ways. You say you can joke and this high level of humor, and then complain that everyone else makes dumb jokes. So youre the guy who is funny and jokes with people, yet your upset you're running into bad banter? That makes no sense. When a guy comes on here and he writes about ONE or TWO chicks, yet he proclaims he's laying gorgeous girls all the time, guys see through that and call bs. Because it doesnt add up. If you were laying tons of great women, you wouldnt be complaining about running into shit women. So I ask you, which is it? Is most people's banter crap, so you dont joke with them, or are you able to joke with most people and this was an overreaction to one incident.

Look, if you want to think that people's sense of humor is just below yours, then fine. But from what I've seen and if people are joking on your fb and you dont get the joke, I would be looking at myself, not thinking oh I'm just too funny. All I can see is that a simple point, such as well they asked me essentially, why I'm looking different, and the answer I gave doesnt even acknowledge that yeah this is a different look for me. Your answer just pretends that nothing is different, which as you said is incorrect. If you cant see that simple fact, then I'd have to assume you cant see whats going on in other aspects. When you get a question, common sense should make you realize what the person is really asking ie "why are you looking different." "I like to look good" pretends that everything is the same as it always was. That's all.

You wouldnt worry about being reactive to RELATIVES if there wasnt insecurity there. They wouldnt be able to annoy you for 10 mins if there wasnt insecurity there. You wouldnt think that they see you as miserable if there wasnt insecurity there. You wouldnt have to act like you always look good and there was no change in your apparel if there wasnt insecurity there. You wont see a bad joke as an insult if there wasnt insecurity there. This was a simple thread, but who really thinks that family members see them as miserable? I can go back and forth with this, but prefer not to, just because you cant admit that your answer was a non answer. And thats basic logic. I'm harsh with my words, and honestly mean no offense..I just dislike seeing people not admit simple stuff. You defended that the shirt looked good, which was unnecessary and unasked.


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 Post subject: Re: Crap banter
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I've read most of the comments on this thread... but that ones too long. I haven't got a spare 20 minutes to read something that probably tells me how my opinion is wrong lol. I read up to the bit where I'm supposed to have a bad memory or else I'm a pick up artist or something (not that I get what's wrong with being a pick up artist... it's not like I'm running around using routines like a psychopath).

Thread needs closing.

For the last time: I'm not in the wrong. Asking me to laugh at jokes that are shit is like asking me to buy a broken car because the person selling it insulted me, but at least he was "joking" - jokes come from somewhere. They wouldn't be "funny" if they weren't true... maybe that's the reason it wasn't funny.

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I changed my mind and did decide to read it.

Ok here's my question and answer:

Q. How come you're wearing a shirt?
A. I like to look good

Here's yours:

Q. How come you're wearing a shirt?
A. I bought a new shirt


Yea, you're right, I so didn't answer the question. You did though, clearly. Next time I'm asked why I chose brown shoes instead of black ones, I'll say "I bought brown shoes" cause it clearly makes sense, and stops me being so "insecure"

As for being harsh... it wasn't asked for. I was simply stating that peoples jokes are absolutely awful... and you came in trying to give all these cold reads about my insecurities... like some kind of PUA.

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 Post subject: Re: Crap banter
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I changed my mind and did decide to read it.

Ok here's my question and answer:

Q. How come you're wearing a shirt?
A. I like to look good

Here's yours:

Q. How come you're wearing a shirt?
A. I bought a new shirt


Yea, you're right, I so didn't answer the question. You did though, clearly. Next time I'm asked why I chose brown shoes instead of black ones, I'll say "I bought brown shoes" cause it clearly makes sense, and stops me being so "insecure"

As for being harsh... it wasn't asked for. I was simply stating that peoples jokes are absolutely awful... and you came in trying to give all these cold reads about my insecurities... like some kind of PUA.
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The answer should have been, I wear shirts now, or i was out and I wear shirts now, or something explaining why you are DIFFERENT, not why you picked a certain shirt. It's like you cant even acknowledge, yeah that was a weird response.
Jesus...I never said to say you bought a new shirt. I've stated over and over that the question meant why do you look different, yet you continue to talk about BUYING a new shirt. Both answers you gave are silly. Of course you bought a shirt. Of course you think it looks good, why would you wear something that doesnt. So even though I've repeatedly said something, you've taken it how you want to take it. I've never said to laugh at people's bad jokes. Never said their joke was funny. I never said you're supposed to have a bad memory. Never called you a PUA. Yet you pulled out these words and twisted them. I've explained something numerous times, and you still repeat the exact opposite of what I said. How can I not assume that you take things/jokes the wrong way in real life? Only reason I said my words may be harsh is because you take things the wrong way. And you agreed so I was right. I say something reminds me of typical PUA banter from a book, you take that as I'm calling you or your friend a PUA. I say you're talking about being reactive as if it were a shit test, you take that as I'm calling you Mystery. One thing I know, is you cant have a discussion with someone who will take what you say and twist the words in their head and respond to things you have not said.

Maybe someone else can give you better advice. One person said the joke was dumb, as was agreed before, and more people have said you were too sensitive about it. Maybe you'll keep adding things like well it was about the other 10 mins afterwards, or its about a fb post and keep adding facts. I'm just done responding since you keep twisting my words and cant get simple points. You think it looks good is a good answer, fine, well dont get surpised when people comment on how it looks, when you're the one who brought up how it looked. They never asked that.


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