Hi all,

I recently started mediating three weeks ago doing it consistently every day. I've been on two big night outs since then and what I've noticed is that my game (when I'm drunk in a club) seems to have suffered significantly. I just seem to find myself trapped in some old hang ups and negative thinking (to do with having difficulty pulling girls), and trying to break through a barrier. I know meditation is meant to improve inner game so I'm surprised by what's happened, it seems to have made my game far worse for now.

One theory could be that meditation brings about inner purification and, as such, the reason I am like this is due to inner purification clearing out my old negative thoughts and hang ups (from the past) from my system. However, that is purely a theory of mine, I do not know. Any ideas?

Has anyone else experienced this when they first started meditating?

Sounds to me that you're having a reverse placebo effect

And If you didn't meditate, would your game be on point? How do you know?

I would say the alcohol of more of an issue tbh

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Mind over matter.

Sure meditation has its benefits. For me its personally improved my focus and concentration, but I think its weak to hold it completely responsible for why you may of had a down night. It could be or it could not be, but as a man you have to take full and complete responsibility for yourself.

The weak man is always looking for something to pin his misfortunes on i.e. " its rainy today. I'm not good when it rains. I had eggs for breakfast, thats why my work performance is down" and while all of those things can make a difference, they're not merely as impactful as some mentally make them out to be. We have to take charge of our mind and realize that we have the power to flip the switch.

You can't succumb to the downsides of what meditation may or may not of done. You're in the drivers seat, and so one activity can only hinder you if you allow it.

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Without knowing what you consider meditation, its hard to comment.

If anything meditation will vastly improve your quality of life and take you far in creating and understanding what it means to live a life of abundance.

Understand that getting intoxicated does the opposite of what meditation does - it only makes you more unconscious /less present. People 'self-medicate' through use of substances to distract themselves from dealing with potentially painful experiences. Sadly they thwart their own progress in the process of doing so. The reality is the way out is through (processing through your inner unrest rather than shying away from your experience).

I'm taking heroin and have no money.

I did affirmations about earning more money but I'm still broke.

How do I unlearn affirmations ?

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lol Your game "When im drunk in a club"?

Dude meditation has nothing to do with your game.

You're drunk in the club.

What game do you expect to have when you are killing brain neurons?

How bout you dont get drunk and man the fuck up on your own.

Meditation allows you to see your inner thoughts, and clearly your game sucks cus your realizing your inner thoughts are shit.

You need to look at your thoughts, figure out wtf is going on in your head and whats holding you back, and come back here and ask a serious question.

Meditation helps you see thought patterns, helps you focus and shit like that i agree. Is a wonderful tool. Use it wisely. Its not going to make your GAME skyrocket, thats up to YOU and your knowledge of attracting the opposite sex. Meditation is just a TOOL.... i been using it for like 3 years now and its taken me in an interesting journey... still i keep a good eye on it... because the mind cannot be overlooked. Its very helpful if you dont intend on living like a sheep.



On defense of alcohol: Yes it can help you get laid if it loosens you up, but is not optimal here's why : You can have better game without alcohol as a crutch. And thats 100% truth. I think getting piss drunk to talk to girls is incredibly weak and it disgusts me. I LOVE alcohol, but not to talk to girls. This very moment i'm staring at my collection of bottles of Jack daniel's and a half empty ciroc bottle that fascilitated my last threesome. And all i had was 1 zip... They had lots. Thats how you use alcohol.

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Thanks for all your responses. What is happening could purely be in my mind or it could genuinely be the meditation having a cleansing effect, as meditation does bring "stuff" to the surface. By extension, meditation would affect inner game. Anyhow, I will keep ploughing on with the meditation and day/night game (day game however is hard to practice when you work long hours!).

Regarding drinking alcohol, alcohol itself I believe brings you closer to your subconscious and your true self (up to a point obviously). We all know that famous saying, "a drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts". If this is true, it would explain the above.