Tinder Opener Converting at 75%



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:26 pm 
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I just want to explain the context behind and the research that has gone into finding this opener:

1. 5 guys

2. 2 years

3. Over 10,000 matches

Yes, we have split tested over 100 different openers in 15 countries around the world to come up with a shortlist of 5, which we then whittled down to the Ultimate Tinder Opener that you are about to learn.

We have worked through Picture Comment Openers, Situational Openers, Role Playing Openers, Profile Callback Openers and a whole range of Pickup Line Openers to come up with this:

“There she is”

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Before we move on, please note the send times on those messages, that was a wave of 20 opens, albeit at “primetime” (7-10 on a weekday), a 60% open rate is above average from the profile I was using…

To explain Open Rate in mathematical terms:

OR = (OI+T)*PE
OR = Open Rate
OI = Opener Interest
T = Time of Day
PE = Profile Excellence

To reach higher open rates, a serious profile is required Smiley

Anyway, let’s get into why this opener is so effective so you can understand and implement for yourself:

1. Non-committal & Understated
All statements are non-committal, they commit enough to show you have an opinion/a brain, yet give enough room for the girl to fill the gap with a question, immediately committing on her side, having her chasing is a great start to the conversation.

2. Different
Have you peaked into a half attractive girls Tinder account? The amount of matches is astronomical…

80% of opens fall into the dull category:

“Hey”

“Hello”

“Yo”

10% fall into the sex fiend category

“Wanna fuck?”

“There she is” is just different enough to get noticed in the sea of shit, yet won’t dump you into the pervert category.

3. Efficient
Yes, if you would like to spend 20 seconds per open scouring each girls profile for that nugget of tedious information that you can just about link to your narcissistic self, then go ahead.

I would rather copy and paste this three word open and then go out and enjoy my life.

4. Devoid Of Innuendo
As mentioned about, “There she is” stands out without raising the sexual alarm bells.

5. Opens Up The Conversation
As you an see from the screenshots, we give the girl a chance to express herself, which will become invaluable later in the interaction.

So there we have it… let me know your thoughts...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:50 pm 
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Thanks for the post.

Then do you launch into something more perceptive about her bio or do you already have some pre-planned "script" to go off of from there?

Also, my worry about these response rates are that you are blanket sending them out, even to girls you would never want to date. Am I correct? I'd be interested in seeing a sample of % respondents by desirability. I know its all relative so it's impossible to do that anywhere other than an ideal world, but you see what I am getting at.

Did you find your statistics with the more attractive women went up as well, and compared to what type of messages. In the end, if you are super picky with girls you message, it may just be worth sending a funny and thoughtful message?

One thing I think that would be interesting is comparing using this on girls with bios and not. Seems the one with bios would prefer something more thought out, whereas the ones with nothing wouldn't really care about something like this. I would hypothesize that your hit rate would go up more with a thought out message to girls with bios relative to "there she is" as opposed to girls who just toss up some pictures, specifically the boring ones/selfies.

My goal for every initial message is to make them laugh. I get so many responses. Scrolling through mine im looking at about the same 75% response rate as you, with 10x+ the work. I'll definitely give it a try (with my own slight twist in verbiage) and see how it goes on my end.

Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:52 pm 
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Interesting stuff.

Since this was your winning opener, it would be interesting to further test this down to:

"There she is" vs. "there she is"

And variants like:

"There she is..."

etc.

On the other hand, if another opener led to more meetups that would be the most successful opener, even if its open rate was much lower.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:57 pm 
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I will give it try


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