That 1 hour of time takes years of emotional pain and growth to compile together for you. Make more money. Because yes... that time is worth alot of money to me. Seeing as I spent alot of money and time (outside of that hour) myself to figure out the shit that I'm helping guys like you with.

Money is simply a resource to get the things you want. There is plenty of it out there. If you can't attain the resources for something you really want... then you must not want it bad enough. Your lack of raw ambition is probably whats keeping you from being as happy and successful as you'd like. Your "it's too hard" and "it's too expensive" way of thinking is only hurting you.

And your sense of entitlement is pretty gross too. You've got some serious changes within yourself that you've got to make if you want to see any level of success with women. How you're going to do that? I don't know... Because I'm not coaching you

And who, pray tell, did you buy your coaching from, and how much did you pay for this coaching?

I'm guessing you learned what you did without paying the rates you are charging; correct me if I'm wrong.

So unless you were coached, the very fact that you figured it out for yourself, and later became a coach, proves that coaching is not a definite requirement.

The lesson, then, is that any money I have to spend should be spent on clothes, travel, and other expenses related to actually going out and being around people.

I wasn't even familiar with you when I started this thread, so I don't see why you jumped in and made such a fuss over a post that had nothing to do with you. Have you posted in other threads I was involved with? If so, I don't remember you.



Again, back to my original topic (read the title).... Free blogs, zines, books, etc.... That's all I want... Stop sucking the life out of me with this endless bickering.

Right guys.... No offense to anyone. I have had a rough time lately with being on administrative leave from work for 2 months now. I've been getting money from my parents to live off of and I'm in my 30's. It's definitely pretty embarrassing, and I've had a short fuse lately. Definitely not in the market for coaching at this time.

So, as far as this girl goes, I realize that it's a fantasy that I am not taking any action on. At least the aupuncture works, though, for some gastrointestinal issues I have, so it's something I need from her anyways, every few weeks.

She makes really nice eye contact and smiles from ear to ear, which I thought was because she liked me, but apparently she's that way towards everyone. I found out she dated a friend of a friend and she's just uber-friendly.

I had the sense that I was starting to creep her out because she finally mentioned her "other half" a few weeks ago, though she didn't mention him at first.

I did some reading and I think my body language was too open. I would face directly towards her, which is intimidating to women, according to what I read....

Lately, then, I have been kind of shifting my body away from hers and only turning my head to talk to her when I finish a sentence or make brief eye contact. I've been more casual, and talk to her like she's just someone I budged into, rather than someone I am pursuing. I still smile a lot and make a lot of good jokes, but I talk to her like someone who isn't a major part of my life.

Since making this change, she seems like she's making more of an effort to qualify herself to me, in the way she talks to me (always explaining herself and her actions like she wants me to understand her), and is being less bitchy, and she doesn't talk about the other people in her life at all..

Also, this week she kind of took my arm and ran her fingernail up it several different times, when explaining acu puncture channels in the arm, and I sort of started to get a boner out of nowhere, but I'm not sure if that was intentional or not. She didn't used to do that, when I first started seeing her. The only time she would touch me was to insert and remove needles.

Anyways, I think what I need to do, if I really think I like this girl, is to chase as many other girls as possible ..... 1) I want to make sure this is real, because it's probably not and I'm just ignoring what else is out there and 2) if this is real, being with other girls will be helpful in building her attraction to me ....

So, yeah, that's my plan. I've heard of a few clubs that are worth checking out. I'm going to scour the area and find out which other clubs are popular and I'm going to observe the locals, and how they dress, before I pick up new clothes.

Then, I've got people I know through friends and friends of friends, like my friend's sister. I think she's into me. So we'll see where that goes.

Hey Mojo,

I've coached guys for free. And you know what I found? Most of them wont take the necessary steps to become successful. They aren't willing to go through the pain. Their ego is in the way.

There are free sources. I don't think the meetup section of this forum is extremely active, but it certainly is on other forums. Meetups are free. And some fairly experienced guys sometimes will join you when going out(provided you're in the same city/going to the same type of venues). That's probably the free resource you're looking for. That would fall under the "services" umbrella.

If you're actually asking about "Products"(goods, like a book or video), there are LOADS of free, legal content. And honestly, most of it is better than the paid stuff.
Go hit up
Chase Amante's blog
Christian McQueen's blog
60 YOC's blog
GLL's blog
Strength By Sonny's blog
BoyToyStory's blog

You now have more free, quality content than you can(or should) ever read. No need to buy any product, unless you have a very specific sticking point that it is directly designed to address.

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Yeah I know. Mine is in the way. I want to feel like I have control over my life and I am not powerless, so I limit my exposure to unusual situations. Helps to avoid the pain. It's part of the reason I feel like I need to listen to bands noone has ever heard of, dress different than anyone else, etc. Being different means not risking rejection.

Last night I did finally locate "the" night game club in town. I had to ask around for a few months, since most of my friends don't go out anymore. I decided to roll by there before I went home from a baseball game. It was very intimidating. I didn't even go in because I knew my clothes were completely inappropriate. Just sat and watched who was going in and who was leaving (with or without a girl).

When I set out to pick up some new clothes, I wanted to do my own thing and ignore current trends... Now I'm completely ready to just dress like everyone else. Gotta suck it up.

Thanks this is exactly what I was looking for.

If you're looking to dress well, on a budget, I'd generally suggest looking into Guess and Uniqlo. They're mid-priced and pretty stylish, while being fairly unique.

You could also go to lookbook.nu and look for the straight guy posts who have the most hypes. That site is about %80+ attractive women, so the feedback is pretty useful. Even Mia sites don't have ratios that good.

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Right. It's not too difficult. I had set really high standards because I was looking for style cues from celebs in magazines, but once I saw the people at this club, I realized that even the best dressed men aren't dressed that well.

Here are my observations, from my local "it" club. Pretty much everyone is doing some variation of these ideas... It shouldn't be that hard to build on this:

A form-fitting linen long sleeve shirt, one color, usually black or navy, with a pronounced collar, is the standard top. This may not be appropriate for me since I still have belly and chest fat... I'm relatively thin but I had to lose a few pounds to get here... But a nice collared shirt will do it.. Linen is in.

Some dudes wear brightly colored or oddly patterned collared shirts. Some people would consider this alpha, other people would consider it as douchebaggery, others would call it straight up white trash.... I'm not sure I wanna go down this road. They're trying to be different from the standard black/navy that is so common, though, so points go to them for originality. They're combining formality with flair.

Pressed pants seem to go best with a linen or formal looking shirt, though Jeans and sneakers are fine as long as the jeans are modern looking and well cut.. People are into that distressed denim with the slightly sandy color.

If people are going casual and wearing sneakers. they are those ones with blue or gray cloth on top with the whitish outsole... They are kind of a preppy look that goes back decades and decades... People wearing these usually wear them with a cotton or gingham top, instead of linen, because this type of shoe is sort of a summer-theme.

Kind of like these, but navy, or darker grey, usually:

http://www.shoes.com/mens-pf-flyers-per ... 2_id429378
http://www.shoes.com/mens-lacoste-glend ... 2_id376982

I actually like this variation of that idea... maybe the mouse grey in the second photo.

http://www.shoes.com/mens-palladium-fle ... 2_id368281



With a linen-fabric top, black leather shoes are more common.. Still need to research leather shoes, along with linen...

Back to sneakers....I don't know if I would wear these at a club, but I might at an art fair or something. I'm talking about the burgundy version.. (click on the second photo)

http://www.shoes.com/mens-puma-suede-cl ... 2_id409829

^^Pretty hip, with dark grey pants and darker grey shirt I think this would look good. This would be fine in an artsy neighborhood, but not at a club.


Lotta steroid freaks at clubs, man.. I wonder if this will ever go out of style. Dudes losing their hair. I used to use juice but it just made me emotionally unstable. Don't juice! I would have a great build if I juiced right now but I would not feel so hot afterwards.... ugh...

So, yeah, I'll look up more linen shirts and pressed pants. Not rocket science.

Thanks for the link, I will check it out.

Youtube:

Owen Cook,
Julien Blanc,
Todd Valentine,
Simple Pick-Up

These channels provide the strongest foundation for cold-approach, which is the fundamental for day game. For clubs and bars, the same basic principles apply. You have to be a bit more 'gamey' just because more guys are approaching women quite frequently, but you can get material on that from these channels anyway.

See the bottom of my sig.
That's pretty much all I do with collared button up shirts. I wear a lot of shirts from Eighty Eight, 7 Diamonds, Roar, and English Laundry. Being different is better than being the same, unless you're just one of the more handsome/built guys. If not, go for different.

Also, I don't know how you feel about clubs, but if I'm going out solo, I've always found clubs playing house music to be a lot more hospitable. The girl/guy ratio is usually better, and there are fewer girls out attention whoring.

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Only read the OP post so sorry if these have been posted. These are free resources for quick tips and what not:

http://becomeaplayer.com
http://pimpcharming.com

I used to go on the first one a whole decade ago (!) it's super, super old. But I like that.