I had a good friend for around 1 year, HB10, some days ago I was studying with her, and we talked and we...ended up kissing (but not having sex) (she has a bf). The next day we were rally occupied with studying, and in the evening she... dumps me because she said she started to feel unconfortable with me after I did not had sex with her in the first night.

Now she says she can't see me anymore nothing more than a friend, and I told her to stop seeing each other for 5-7 days ( previously we spended 4-6hrs together daily)

So... she values sex pretty much. After these 5-7 days I plan to go to her, and just be very sexually agressive (in the good way), and try having sex with her, and kind of repair the situation.

Would this be a good idea ?
Any other Ideas ?

Wow a 10 eh?

Never heard that one before

Ok - first question... And it's important: did she literally say she was friend zoning you because you didn't have sex? Or is that just your assessment of the situation?

She was a VERY good friend of mine... we hooked up and after one day she started to avoid me and then broke up.

I asked why, she again avoided to answer. A very good common friend (her best female friend) told me that she was disappinted because I did not slept with her in the first night. I didn't do it because I didn't wanted to look needy, she always criticised when a guy wanted to sleep with her in the first night

When I asked then, she told me: yes...but we knew each other for a very long period of time


The Idea is that I know 100% sure from her, that if I would have slept with her in the first night, now we would be together.

She started to feel akward the second day because I didn't slept with her, returning immediately to the friend-zone.

How exactly is sleeping with a girl acting needy? I think guys need to start worrying less about looking needy, worrying about it makes you fucking needy! Asking her why she is avoiding you now is fucking needy. Sleeping with her when the opportunity presents itself is not needy. Stop with the we would now be together talk too, you have no idea what would have happened even if you had slept with her.

odyn nailed this...

She also sounds pretty... loose to me. Like she's done that more than a few times to other guys.

"appearing needy"........ You gotta stop reading PUA books and just act normal.

You are right guys !
But now, returning to the primary question... how can I solve that now ?

Next time you're out, just escalate with her.

If you're going to see her in 7 days wouldn't you know from your previous mistake to do this time what you didn't do last time?

You've already answered your own question.

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This actually makes a lot of sense to me. Forget the label of whatever you guys had. You knew her for long enough, and you didn't have the drive to fuck her. The biggest component that sticks out to me about girls is time. The longer you know a girl or any person for that matter, the more you can get away with anything. That is because you understand each other and are comfortable, etc.

As people posted while I was typing, next time you are together in private, escalate and try to screw her. Don't ask questions... that will ruin it for sure.
So funny but true.... experience is the best teacher! You only realize this after too many times when you look back and say to yourself "I followed my PUA rules to the T!!" but I still didn't get the girl!

Thanks guys ! You rock !
You helped me much with those ideas

This article helped me understand attraction and also why it's essential to make a move with women. Hope it helps and gl http://www.girlschase.com/content/attra ... ation-date

Thanks for the article.

You was never in the friendzone with this "HB10" obviously. Friendzone isn't even a real thing it's just the "not interested zone".

Seriously... You meet a girl in a bar and she's not interested, oh are you "in the friendzone"? People just forget about the fact that it's possible for girls you just met to not be interested because they forget about those girls the moment they walk away. There's nothing magical about being "friends" srs.

So yes she is sexually attracted to you unless you were an absolutely horrendous kisser or totally humiliated yourself. You can probably get her to cheat time and time and time and time again whenever you want... Simply with persistence and plausible deniability. "Hey come over because... I need you to help me fix my clock" she'll probably take any decent excuse. Then she will put up slight resistance. But all the time she knows exactly why she's there and what she wants. It's just a battle with her own conscience, and her conscience can never win if you persist because emotions in women are too strong and totally take control of their mind and actions when they're worked up enough.

When you don't have sex with a girl who wants to have
sex with you...it's a major blow to her self esteem

If you wanted to have sex with a girl and
she turn it down...it would hurt...it's the
same thing with her

She probably wants to avoid you, because
you now symbolize "the guy who hurt my
self esteem"

On the next meet up with her, I would be playful
with kino and have sex with her if the location
is right

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