People with experience in direct openers, do you find a certain type of girl or provocatively dressed women prefer direct openers? I find they hit less often than indirect but when they do hit the reception is much warmer than an indirect.

Direct is not the words you say man. A guy can walk up and tell a girl she is sexy and be COMPLETELY indirect. Direct is how you are feeling, and why you are there.

You should always be direct, not just with girls, but with everything you do in your life. Being direct is hiding who you are and what you want...which only serves to kill you. Your basically rejecting yourself with this mindset.

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In my experience, there really is no difference in effectiveness as such.

Girls who are more provocatively dressed tend to have a bit more experience with
guys approaching them, and will definitely not appreciate if you try to hide
the fact that you like her.

Women who are more "casual" live in the real world more, and don't perceive
every guy as if he's trying to fuck them.

That's why when it comes to provocative women, I do go with the obvious - you
got dressed for a reason, for guys to notice you. I noticed you, and I am talking
to you.

It's being more direct, more provocative yourself if you will. More in your face.

And with casual girls, you can say something like, "Hey do you know where
the bus station is..." and they will be much more OK with talking to you then
the provocatively dressed girls.

Hope this answered your question,

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Direct openers are suitable for women who look for a boyfriend or who are interested in you at the beginning.. since we can only know the later, look for sexual signals from the distance? Does she mimic your body language? Does she move to closer proximity to you? is her knees pointing to you? what are her comfort levels when she is near you?
Also, is she alone or with friends.. if there are men in her group, are you still going to go direct?

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What does it mean "they hit" less often..

Meaning if you walk up to a woman and ask " What is the time?" She is more likely to answer you as opposed to you saying " Hey whats up? I''m Eddie " ?

If women are more receptive to your indirect openers that would suggest to me that you are a lot more confident about being "sneaky" than you are about being straight forward. It is not the words, but the delivery that determines how your opener will hit.

Now if you're pussy footing around and delivering your opener from a weak unconfident frame a indirect will work better because the woman will just be telling you the time; she won't be showing interest. It'll just have the appearance that its hitting because of you getting the answer to the indirect question you asked.

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Eddie Fews is a smart guy, but i disagree with his assertion that all women respond to the same things in a blanket way.

Some respond better to direct, some respond better to indirect. There is a psychology behind all of this and any pua that thinks differently does not understand the psychology, nor has he tested it out for himself to come up with his opinion.

It's baseless and shouldn't be listened to on this subject.

If he thinks he's tested it then he has not done a proper test and he needs to re-evaluate his experiment better.

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Direct works best if you're going to barrel through. The IOI from you gets registered in an emotional sense but the barrel through uses up the girl's cognitive buffer to prevent going through "due process" so you're less likely to trigger an autopilot.

If you're game is totally solid and you can hold the frame regardless then direct also works on the HB10's as long as it's not about her looks. HB9+'s know straight way if you're full of BS but aren't man enough to put your cards on the table.

^This is also a great use for the tool.

One person describes how it works best for him when using it as a primary weapon, the other describes the women psychologies it works best on minus their look level.

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The thing that people dont understand is the rejection which you may get at the beginning of the interaction if you are going direct straight away.

It is very hard and a lot of times impossible to recover from an initial rejection.

A girl is not a dummie, she might not know how to handle a direct approach. But most women know how to cope with an indirect approach. You may encounter a rejection later on or not at all if you use an indirect approach..

Overall and from what I experienced. A direct approach is more hit or miss!

You can prime a girl to see if she's more receptive to direct or indirect a few different ways in order to get rid of the hit and missness of it all.

Pre approaching will cause slight non-verbal reactions that go under her radar which tell you what she most likely is.

You can also use an opener that starts one way and then calibrates over to the other way.

Like delivering a direct opener gauging her reaction as you talk then switching over quickly to indirect if that style makes her uncomfortable before the rejection occurs. into an indirect type of conversation that she engages in after you made your sexual intentions clear.

Or doing the opposite. go indirect and if you see certain queues that she doesn't respect indirect switch over to direct before the rejection occurs.

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Well, this is how I've been doing openers after some experience.

Direct- single sets on the street.

Situational - bars, more than one in set, at book stores because I am so into books, or if they are reading a book on a subway, etc., I'll go direct then directly transition to the book.

If they have something written on their shit I can relate to (e.g. sports team) I'll talk about that, even if they are a single set.

I pretty much got rid of opinion openers unless I am actually really feeling asking an opinion about something. I found them useless because they are so hard to transition from.

Also, direct on girls at work is AWFUL I have found. They seem to definitely not appreciate overt hitting on when they are at work.

What do you guys think?

And by "hit" I mean I usually go longer in the set, and are more likely to get the number. I'll be more often just totally blown out going direct, but I feel like I waste less time on sets who are just not interested. (I'm good looking, with little game/flirtation skills, so I find that raising buying temp. is hard unless I am in a venue with a lot of social proof.)

Still haven't got any dates off cold approach after 10 months doing about 500 females sets and just talking to every stranger, but I did hook up with someone from the gym after proofing and definitely am seeing a ton of improvement.

PS. Am I doing enough sets? Working a lot onf self improvement more than cold approaches.

From my experience going direct on women you work with creates social awkwardness in the work environment.

Instead I say hi the first few times I see them, and on the third of fourth encounter I ask how long she's been working there and how she likes it, then leave, finally I'll invite her out to something I'm doing (either with co workers) or by myself.

Program Credit - Vindicarlo approaching and opening.

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I didn't mean direct with girls I work with, I meant direct with girls who are at their work.

Many women at work are being watched by supervisors and camera's and told not to give out their numbers.

In the past I never went direct on them. Situation/indirect stuff seems to work best.

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