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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:28 pm 
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Hello, welcome to my thread!

JackZero sent me an interesting PM recently, among other topics we're discussing he enlightened me to the fact that the average life of a thread is like 24 hours.

I felt that this is a real shame.

Many people will never read the posts I spent time and effort articulating for them. Looking at my post statistics, 42% of my posts are of the general questions variety so I've decided to just post all of my "inspirational statements" ( :lol: thanks for the term, coined by CharlesFinley) in one thread that can just be updated.

To catch you up, here are some things I've posted so far:

A brief Introduction:
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Hi!

I want to have a great time with this pick up stuff. I haven't talked to a woman in a while. Mostly, I've just been basking in the initial attractive signals they send me, getting a nice ego boost but not saying much to them other than a nod or smile so they don't feel rejected sending me attraction signals. I know there is a ton more to getting woman than just first impression attraction.

I'm pretty good at getting girls. But because it's been a while I feel rusty I'm going to use the forum to chronicle my journey.

A little background on me:

I've started practicing hermetics. Before you start thinking I'm coo-coo for coacoa puffs, this stuff that dates back as old as Christianity. Most of it's teachings are being discovered and verified in modern quantum physics, and there are tons of international magic guilds who's members are some of the most prominent members of society. BTW, there is a guild you may have heard of named the Illuminates of Thanateros.

I read the first few chapters of the initiation to hermetics and have started the first level of practical magic.

I have to say it's been the greatest thing I was introduced to for innergame.

Besides the parts where you use elements to manifest desires, it has you spend a few months creating a black and white mirror to your personality/soul which is all of your good and bad habits and great habits. I thought very highly of myself but then I discovered I had hundreds of bad habits, many I would never have been aware of had I not spent a month monitoring my emotional states and writing everything bad about myself.

Some very dark things you'll find there if you're honest, but it's wonderful to shed light on inner demons then obliterate them.

The first level psychic training has also helped me become present, and aware of how my mind and brain operate. The first step is to become aware of the thoughts in your mind. The next is to control thoughts to stay on task for what ever you're doing. So I won't be thinking about work while I'm at home, or how scared I am while in set. I'm present in my interactions. Then I learned how to focus on just one thought for extended periods of time, and finally I learned how to produce a complete vacancy of thoughts in my mind.

Silence.

Basically all of this stuff is next level science that explains the truths of the world. Don't think I play with demons or anything crazy like that, I'm a christian, scientist, and self evolutionist. The Magi.

I'm not here to talk about that stuff though, if you're interested check out initiation to hermetics. I'm here to get better with woman, and bring guys I'm better than up to my level. Have a great day.
Inner Game of the Magi
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Instead of just pointing people to the initiation to hermetics I've decided to get to the point.

Don't worry about all of the magic and stuff if you don't care about any of that, so I'm going to share the portion where you master yourself on the first level.

Substitute the word soul for personality and you are in business.

Self Mind Control
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Magic Mental Training (I)
1. Thought Control: discipline of thoughts, & subordination of thoughts ~
Take a seat in a comfortable chair or lie down on a settee. Relax the whole body, close your
eyes and observe the train of your thoughts for five minutes, trying to retain it. At first, you
will find that there are rushing up to you thoughts concerning everyday affairs, professional
worries, and the like. Take the behavior of a silent observer toward these trains of thoughts,
freely and independently. According to the mentality and the mental situation you happen to
be in at the moment, this exercise will be more or less easy for you. The main point is not to
forget yourself, not to lose the train of thoughts, but to pursue it attentively. Beware of falling
asleep while doing this exercise. If you begin to feel tired, stop instantly and postpone the
exercise to another time, when you intend not to give in to tiredness. The Indians sprinkle
cold water on their faces or rub down the face and upper part of their bodies to remain brisk
and not waste precious time. Some deep breathing before you begin will also prevent
tiredness and sleepiness. As time goes on, each disciple will find out such little tricks by
himself. This exercise of controlling thoughts has to be undertaken in the morning and at
night. It is to be extended each day by one minute to allow the train of thoughts to be pursued
and controlled without the slightest digression for a time of 10 mi nutes at least after a week’s
training.
This space of time is destined to the average man. If it should not suffice, everyone can
extend it according to his own apperception. In any event, is advisable to proceed very
consciously, because it is of no use to hurry, development being quite individual in men. On
no account go further before the preceding exercise is perfectly under control.
The attentive disciple will realize how, at the beginning, thoughts rush on to him, how
rapidly they pass before him so that he will have difficulty to recollect the lot of manifold
thoughts. But from one exercise to the next, he will state that thoughts come up less chaotic,
moderating little by little, until at last only a few thoughts emerge in his consciousness,
arriving, as it were, from a far distance.
The keenest attention ought to be given to this work of thought control, as it is very
important for magic development, a fact that everyone will realize later on.
Providing that the mentioned exercise has been thoroughly worked through and everyone has
a complete command of it in practice, let us pass over to the mental training
Up to now we have learned to control our thoughts. The next exercise will consist in not
giving way in our mind to thoughts obtruding themselves on our mind, unwanted and
obstinate. For instance, we must be able not to occupy ourselves any longer with the tasks and
worries of our profession when we come home from work and return the family circle and
privacy. All thoughts not belonging to our privacy must be set aside, and we ought to manage
to become quite a different personality instantly. And just the other way round: in our job, all
thoughts have to be concentrated in it exclusively, and we must not allow them to digress or
wander home, to private affairs, or elsewhere. This has to be practiced time and again until it
has developed into a habit. Above all, one ought to accustom oneself to achieve whatever one
does with full consciousness, whether in professional work or in private, regardless whether
the point is a big one or a trifle. This exercise should be kept for a lifetime, because it is
sharpening the mind and strengthening the consciousness and the memory.
Having obtained a certain skill in this exercise, you may turn to the following one. The
purpose will now be to hold onto a single thought or idea for a longer while, and to suppress
any other thoughts associating and obtruding with force on the mind. Choose for this purpose
any train of thoughts or ideation or a suitable presentation according to your personal taste.
Hold onto his presentation with all your strength. Vigorously refuse all the other thoughts that
have nothing to do with the thoughts being exercised. At first you probably will succeed only
for a few seconds, later on for minutes. You must manage to concentrate on one single
thought and follow it for 10 minutes at least.
If you succeed in doing to, you will be fit for a new exercise. Let us then learn how to produce
an absolute vacancy of mind. Lie down comfortably on a bed or sofa or sit in an armchair and
relax your whole body. Close your eyes. Energetically dismiss any thought coming upon you.
Nothing at all is allowed to happen in your mind; an absolute vacancy of mind must reign.
Now hold on to this stage of vacancy without digressing or forgetting. At first, you will
manage to do so for only a few seconds, but by practicing it more often, you will surely
succeed better at it. The purpose of the exercise will be attained if you succeed in remaining
in this state for a full 10 minutes without losing your self-control or even falling asleep.
Carefully enter your success, failure, duration of your exercises and eventual disturbances into
a magic notebook (See details under the heading “Magic Soul Training”). Such a diary will
be useful to check your progress. The greater the scrupulousness you use in doing so, the more
easily you will undergo all the other exercises. Prepare a working schedule for the coming day
or week, and most of all, indulge in self-criticism.
Exposing your personality
Know thy self
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Magic Psychic Training (I)
1. Introspection or Self-Knowledge ~
In our own mansion, meaning our body and our soul, we must find our way about at every
moment. Therefore our first task will be to know ourselves. Each initiation system, no matter
which kind it may be, will put this condition in the first place. Without self-knowledge there
will be no real development on a higher level.
In the first days of psychic training, let us deal with the practical part of introspection or
self-knowledge. Arrange for a magic diary and enter all the bad sides of your soul into it. This
diary is for your own use only, and must not be shown to anybody else. It represents the
so-called control book for you. In the self-control of your failures, habits, passions, instincts
and other ugly character traits, you have to observe a hard and severe attitude towards
yourself. Be merciless towards yourself and do not embellish any of your failures and
deficiencies. Think about yourself in quiet meditation, put yourself back into different
situations of your past and remember how you behaved then and what mistakes or failures
occurred in the various situations. Make notes of all your weaknesses, down to the finest
nuances and variations. The more you are discovering, all the better for you. Nothing must
remain hidden, nothing unrevealed, however insignificant or great your faults or frailties may
be. Some especially endowed disciples have been able to discover hundreds of failures in the
finest shades. Disciples like these possessed a good meditation and a deep penetration into
their own souls. Wash your soul perfectly clean; sweep all the dust out of it.
This self-analysis is one of the most important magic preliminaries. Many of the occult
systems have neglected it, and that is why they did not achieve good results. This psychic
preliminary work is indispensable to obtain the magic equilibrium, and without it, there is no
regular progress of the development to be thought of. Therefore you ought to devote some
minutes’ time to self-criticism in the morning and at night. If you have got the chance of
some free moments during the day, avail yourself of them and do some intensive thinking,
whether there are still some hidden faults anywhere, and if you discover them, record them on
the spot so as not to forget a single one. Whenever you happen to find out any deficiency, do
not delay to note it immediately.
If within a week you do not succeed in discovering all your faults, spend another week on
these inquiries until you have definitely established your list of offences Having achieved this
problem within one or two weeks, you have reached the point to begin with a further exercise.
Now by intensive thinking, try to assign each fault to one of the four elements. Appoint a
rubric in your diary to each element and enter your faults into it. You will not feel sure of
which elements some of the faults are to be assigned. Record them under the heading of
“indifferent”. In the progressing development you will be able to determine the element
corresponding to your deficiency.
For instance, you will ascribe jealousy, hatred, vindictiveness, irascibility, and anger to the
fiery element; frivolity, self-presumption, boating, squandering, and gossiping to the element
of air; indifference, laziness, frigidity, compliance, negligence, shyness, insolence, and
instability to the watery element; laziness, lack of conscience, melancholy, irregularity,
anomaly and dullness to the element of earth.
In the following week you will meditate on each single rubric, dividing it into three groups.
In the first group you will enter the biggest failures, especially those that influence you
strongest or happen at the slightest opportunity. The second group will embrace faults
occurring less frequently and in slighter degree. In the last group you are recording those
faults that happen only now and again. Go on doing so with the indifferent faults, too. Work
conscientiously at all times; it is worth while!
Repeat the whole procedure with your good psychical qualities, entering them into the
respective categories of the elements. Do not forget the three columns here as well. For
example, you will assign activity, enthusiasm firmness, courage, and daring to the fiery
element, diligence, joy, dexterity, kindness, lust, and optimism to the air element, modesty,
abstemiousness, fervency, compassion, tranquility, tenderness, and forgiveness to the watery
element, and respect, endurance, conscientiousness, thoroughness, sobriety, punctuality, and
responsibility to the earth element.
By doing so, you will get two so-called psycho-mirrors, a black one with the evil qualities,
and a whit one with the good and noble character traits. These two magic mirrors are correct
occult mirrors, and none but the owner has any right to look into them at all. Let me repeat
once more that the owner must endeavor to elaborate his magic mirrors precisely and
conscientiously. If, in the course of the development, he should remember any good or bad
quality, he can still record it under the respective heading. These two magic mirrors will
allow the magician to recognize rather exactly which of the elements is prevailing in his
black or white mirror. This recognition is absolutely necessary to attain the magic equipoise,
and the further development depends on it.
I made a list of more than a hundred things on the dark mirror, it was crazy, but eventually I started seeing patterns and realized what my biggest issues were, Even though I spent 2 months on the dark mirror I still am discovering new things once in a while.

More on the elements
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Each of these four elements, which determine man’s temper, in the active form, owns the
good properties, and in its passive form, the contrary or bad qualities. It would be too prolix
to inform here about the effects of the elements, and it is better for the incipient adept to find
out himself further effects by his own meditation. This manner also has a very special reason,
on the path to initiation. Here I shall a few examples only:
The choleric(fire) temper, in its active polarity, has the following good qualities: activity,
enthusiasm, eagerness, resolution, courage, productivity, etc. In the negative form these
qualities are: gluttony, jealousy, passion, irritability, intemperance, bent to destruction, etc.
The sanguine(air) temper in its active form shows: capacity of penetrating, diligence, joy,
adroitness, kindness, clearness, lack of grief, cheerfulness, optimism, eagerness,
independence, familiarity, etc. In the negative form: continual feeling of being affronted,
contempt, propensity to gossiping, lack of endurance, slyness, garrulousness, dishonesty,
fickleness, etc.
The melancholic(water) temper in its active form: respectability, modesty, compassion, devotion,
seriousness, docility, fervor, cordiality, comprehension, meditation, calmness, quick to give
one’s confidence, forgiveness, tenderness, and so on. In the negative form: indifference,
depression, apathy, shyness, laziness, etc.
The phlegmatic(earth) temper in its active form: respectability, reputation, endurance,
consideration, resolution, firmness, seriousness, scrupulousness, thoroughness, concentration,
sobriety, punctuality, reservedness, objectivity, infallibility, responsibility, reliability,
circumspection, resistance, self-assurance, and so on. In the negative form: insipidity,
unscrupulousness, misanthropy, dullness, tardiness, laziness, unreliability, laconism, and so
on.
The qualities of the temperaments, according to the preponderant quality, form the basis of
the human character.
Have a great day!

Getting out of the House
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The thing that appears to be the biggest problem with most guys here is this. You don't get out enough. You play these mind games with yourself and you go to war against your emotions and habits.
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"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to." – Bilbo Baggins
Take that first step, then take another and another. Get out of your house. When your out of the house, go out of the door of your mind aka get out of your head. And ACT!

I wish I was standing there when you see that pretty girl giving you an IOI and you turn away, so I could bitch slap your face back in her direction.
What is a Woman?
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Hello!

I've been reading posts on here, and I want to bring some enlightenment to the few people that read this.

Let me start this off with a quote from a song titled the hills by The Weeknd

"I only call you when it's half past 5, the only time I ever call you mine, I only love it when you touch me, not feel me..."

Full song here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzTuBuRdAyA Women love him, I found out about him while watching a famous camgirl who had his songs playing while she diddled herself.

So, basically he's talking about how he just wants to have a girl on call to come fuck when he feels like it, and he doesn't want to get involved with all of the emotions. That's where I'm at right now.

I only want good looking women to be on call while I live my life.

So what is a woman?

In that sense she's a warm body for earthly pleasures. Nothing more. Being transparent here... That's what a dynamic like that is.

But, what a woman is to me ultimately, is a person who will uplift you and make your plans succeed faster than if you tried them by yourself. And will bring you lasting happiness not the temporary kind a warm body brings.

A woman is supposed to be your friend.

For me women are both. You have warm body women who are there just to make me feel good, and then you have the ones with substance.

Never treat your woman of substance as the warm body, and never allow a warm body to trick you into making her a false representation of your woman of substance.
How to treat Warm Bodies
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Not speaking about the woman of substance here. The warm body is essentially a piece of meat. She needs to be looked at like a wolf would a baby deer. You ruthlessly devour her and toss her bones to the side.

Of course I'm not talking about you physically hurting this girl, if you are feeling that way, you need to see a psychiatrist. What I mean is she is just there to make you laugh and then fuck, and not to be seen as a human worth feeling sorry over after you're done with her.

She's livestock in your stable.

Remember, never to treat women of substance like this. Not all women are created equally.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:38 pm 
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Flow of Women
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I made a post here : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=191036&p=915709#p915709 and thought it should be it's own topic and explained more.

So there I suggested to the man that he learn his numbers and establish a client base.

Using a system of getting a number, and using text to convert that into a date a man will discover that his culmination of things (race, weight, height, status, skills, style) will present him with certain static numbers of how many women you have to talk to in order to get a date, and how many dates you need to take things to the next level.

Weight, style, status, and skills are the only things in your control. Status and skills being the ones with unlimited growth potential allowing your potential to be limitless.

Well, that's what's been working for me.

So the practical advice you came for here. How to keep a steady flow of women in your life and reach the status of pimp? This is what I did and am getting back to.


Throw out the idea of AA because most girls you talk to will reject you anyway. Rejections are great you get closer to the close the more No's you hear. After all, closed mouths don't get fed.

Find your No number. Don't focus on getting rejected, but figure out first how many Nos you need to hear before you get a number. You should Get comfortable running 1 style and then pull data from at least a pool of 500 women. If you have a target audience in mind then go for specifics. This is the fun part because you can really break down what type of women best respond to your style. If 500 seems "daunting" then go for something like 2 a day and spend a year doing your test.

The testing here has many variables though, like day game, night game, the situation you talked to the girl under, group dynamics and shit. If you want to be really specific pick one type of situation and hammer in on that.

For the sake of this explanation lets say you love talking to a single set when there is a small window of time between the 2 of you like during the daytime passing on the street. Like some Paul Jenka shit.


Now, after you have some skills learned from a fairly reliable source when you see the situation you act. By the way all 500 of those women should not say no... You'll need to examine your style, weight, skills, and status to see what the problem is.

Lets say you are a solid guy with no problems in any of those areas. You'll start getting numbers. Turning those numbers into dates, and closing the dates. In that pool of 500 you should definitely close at least 1 woman. Out of 500 you should get Multiple closes. Anyway, after you've talked to number 500, and either got rejected or she closed, or went cold here is what you do.

Take 500 and divide it by your number of closes. Lets say I got 5 out of the 500. That means I know that I will have to talk to at least 100 women to sleep with one. This number is like a gumball machine though. Meaning I have a gumball machine with 500 gumballs in it. 495 are red, and 5 are green. I could get 1 green every 100. I might get 2 greens on my first two tries then not get another green until 274 more red ones come out.

You get the point. But that's why you draw data from a pool with many static variables. Like a science experiment, or marketing test.

These numbers suck btw and if it takes talking to 100 women to sleep with one you have a ton of room for improvement my friend.

This means I would have to talk to at least 100 new women each time I close one if I want a steady flow of women. The way to keep a steady flow is to always replenish your prospect base. Break down the numbers again. How many women do you talk to until you get a number? How many numbers turn into a date? how many new dates till a close?

Lets say in that 100 I get 10 numbers 5 dates from those numbers and close 1 girl. I need to focus on keeping 10 fresh numbers in my phone every time I sleep with a woman.

Meaning I have a batch of 10 the third girl I text out the pool closes. That does not mean I have 7 more numbers to work... It means I have to go get 10 more fresh numbers. I'll still work those other 7, but they most likely won't go anywhere, and my next close won't happen until I get 10 more numbers.

Many men waste time on each of these interactions. You close the third girl on your list and think you still have 7 more girls to talk to when they most likely won't go anywhere. You waste the time talking to them instead of talking to new women, and now your phone is empty. If instead of just relying on talking to those other 7 you use the time to collect 10 more (while talking to those other 7) and you'll constantly have at least one close in your phone.

When you know the numbers you can work to make them smaller by addressing those qualities of style, weight, skills, and status I described earlier.
Inspirational statements in game
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I recently heard the word inspirational statements stated by Charles Finley and it dawned on me. I will often tell inspirational stories to people. Then there is a pause at the end, and I'll just transition into something else.

When Talking to women I'll blend these into conversations. It's like I'm trying to make their lives better with some information that I am sure they have never heard of. I don't think this conversational habit is conducive to picking up girls.

It probably builds trust I suppose, and the story may be of value, but since 9-10 people are resistant to change 9 out of 10 people will respond negatively to it. Then they'll backwards rationalize some negetive excuse as to why they didn't like it.

Thoughts like "this person is arrogant", "know it all", :show off", or "look at him on his high horse" stuff will come to them as intuition.

This means for you reader, that if you want conversations to go smoothly 9 out of 10 times you need to not tell interesting stories or make inspirational statements during conversations with most people to be liked.

This would fall into the realm of trying to impress others. So fuck them and keep your gold for yourself, unless you feel like you're in the presence of that 1 in 10.

A good way to do this is to throw out a feeler. For me the stuff comes up naturally. Most of the time it happens if they bring something up and my mind jumps to something helpful and inspirational. So if I wanted to use this skill properly to get comfort, and be liked more by these women without the opposite of it's intended affect happening I would have to catch myself about to tell one automatically and critically think in an instant of a feeler.

A feeler would be casually throwing the idea out. Gauging the reaction in a positive manner, and then telling the story.

Thinking about this now, what I've been doing before was being reminded of something interesting off what they just said, and then delivering it by getting them to agree with something remotely related to what I want to say, and then just making my statement. Forcing backwards rationalization agreement to my statement and trying to be helpful and inspirational all at the same time.

So instead of doing that first, I'll see if they would be excited about the topic I'm going make my inspirational statement about. Excited and not just slightly interested. Their initial emotional state towards the idea will determine if they hang on your every word and love it, or think when you make one that it gets old and they don't want your help, and you are arrogant, and stuck on your own knowledge.
Dealing with haters - even close ones
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Hi! I've made a couple posts asking for advice on the constant hate that is thrown at me from people.

Jackzero has been the only person to suggest something so far based out of our ineractions.

If you're reading this, thanks again Jack. He recommended some knowledge on winning people to my side in the form of a book called Thank you for arguing, by jay Heinricks.

In the mean time, I read a few articles online today that I want to share with you, a man who may be having this same problem:

Turning Haters Into Allies:
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The oxygen for trolls or haters on social media is an argument. That's why most people think the best way to handle them is to ignore them. I disagree.

The best way is to engage them, but with respect. Acknowledge their point of view and start a conversation. They'll gain a lot of respect for your willingness to hear them out. Give them the benefit of the doubt and recognize that a lot of times, tone is lost on Twitter.

The only move is to be the bigger person. When people say, "Gary you’re so full of shit," I jump in and say, "Explain to me why. What can I do?" The moment you acknowledge somebody else’s point of view, you’ve already made the conversation more of a positive for you. Haters, a lot of times, just want to be recognized. Twenty to thirty of my biggest fans started off as haters. What happens is they gain a lot of respect for your willingness to hear them out.

As told to Inc. staff writer Issie Lapowsky.
http://www.inc.com/magazine/201311/gary ... aters.html

Just opening the door and hearing them out can work sometimes, and is a great start, but haters will often just keep hating relentlessly due to much deeper issues. Especially if they are friends and family members that you just can't immediately cut off, like a miss-behaving woman. 8)

The next article is pretty long, but read every word because in it there is gold that will help you tremendously with all haters including the ones who are closest to you.

The Ultimate Cheat Sheet to Haters
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It’s easy to get anonymous people to hate you. Have an opinion. Be creative. Be yourself.

But sometimes it gets worse. I’ve had death threats, legal threats, I’ve lost friends, even family, over things I’ve written. I’ve lost the respect of many I still respect. Articles get written then people hate me even more.

A hater can be anyone. A family member, a friend, a colleague, a teacher, a boss, or some random person you meet on the street or the Internet. People who were friends forever can suddenly be haters. You HAVE to have the tools to deal with it.

It always feels miserable. I am never cavalier about it.

I wanted to like these people in some cases. 20 year friendships. Friends I thought I would have forever. Now… gone.

Most haters are just invisible, anonymous, just trying to get in your head because that’s THEIR particular method of having a human connection.

Example: someone wrote a review of my audio book the other day:

“SIMPLY TERRIBLE… the author should NEVER EVER read his own books again. He has a lazy, mumbling speech that made it difficult to give him credibility right off the bat. He sounded a bit disinterested, like it was a bother to pass along these precious gems on knowledge to us, the poor miserable audience.”

I’m not fishing for compliments. Some people like my audio book, some people don’t. But it reminds me of 7th grade, when we had to take turns reading from a book in a class called Woodshop.

Who would’ve thought that in Woodshop I would learn all the basic skills that allowed me to build businesses and develop meaningful relationships later in life?

Well, not me, and I was right. I learned nothing there.

The only great moment that happened to me in woodshop was when the prettiest girl in school ran up to me and said, “Quick, quick, what psychiatrist talks all the time about sex?” And I said, “Freud” and then she ran away to have a deep conversation with the woodshop teacher twenty years older than her.

I definitely don’t remember what we were reading in the woodshop “book” that day but when it was my turn to speak, Christin Herholz said, “oh no, not HIS voice again.”

So maybe that reviewer is right. Maybe Christin is actually the reviewer! Synchronicity! (Jung).

No matter what we do in life, we get some people who hate us, who make fun of us, who gossip about us, who backstab us, who take money from us or do something to try and ruin our reputation, who threaten us, who tease us, who frighten us.

SO LISTEN TO ME: these are the rules how to deal with haters – the anonymous ones, the ones in your face, the ones at work, the ones you can’t avoid, family, and people you love.

It’s hard to do. Sometimes I can’t do them. But bit by bit I get better at these rules. And when I get better, I can see better results in my life. I hope you will also.

I) IT’S ABOUT THEM

This is a bit of a cliche but it’s true. Behind every Anger is a Fear.

Whoever hates, is also afraid of something. This doesn’t mean you say, “poor baby, he’s just afraid.” But it’s just worth noting.

For instance, in the above review, the reviewer said, “the poor miserable audience”. Maybe her fear is of being poor and miserable and so she hears someone saying that to her no matter who is talking. This is her problem in life right now.

Often people say, “oh, don’t worry, they are just jealous.” Maybe they are. Maybe they aren’t. We can never read their minds.

It’s none of my business why someone thinks something of me.

But something is going on in their lives that is bringing up a fear. And they indulge the fear by having an anger towards you. By projecting their own fear onto you. For a brief moment, you become the monster that has been hiding onside of them.

Anger is just fear indulged.

II) IT ALSO REALLY IS ABOUT YOU

Most people who hate me I never even think about. But some haters push buttons. Some accidentally know how to get under my skin.

Or not accidentally. Like when a family member hates you and knows EXACTLY what buttons to press (“you never bathe”, etc).

When someone pushes a button, I get angry and maybe even defensive. But it’s NOT because they said something horrible.

It’s because under the fleshy armor of rage, I’m afraid they might be right.

I might not even admit this to myself. They put the knife in, after all, so I can accuse them. But the reality is I might be twisting the knife in even further.

Take the above example again. I pulled it out from 100s I could’ve used. Not because it was particularly mean. But I just realized I then told you a story of what happened to me in seventh grade when a girl made fun of my voice.

So maybe I really am afraid I have some weird sort of voice. I don’t know. It’s just worth noting to myself.

When all you do is “note” something to yourself, it at least separates it out from the non-stop chatter in the head. It lets you identify it and put it in it’s own special cage. This makes it easier to identify and deal with and maybe even learn something about yourself.

III) THE 24 HOUR RULE

If someone attacks you in any way, you might get bad feelings. If it’s a public attack then others might get bad feelings. People will say, “Jane said this about James so he must be an idiot.”

Or it might an office politics attack. Or an attack in a relationship.

The 24 Hour Rule works in almost every case. If you never respond to the initial attack, it goes away in 24 hours. If you respond EVEN ONCE, then reset the clock. It’s another 24 hours as it spreads through the spider web of human interaction.

This is why some battles go on for years. Nobody stops responding. The attack continues until one person dies. And as the Onion states: World Mortality Rate Holds Steady At 100%.

IV) THE 30/30/30 RULE

I had a few posts where I stole the same image of a woman doing yoga poses on a beach. I got some criticism for always using images of a sexy woman. I also got criticism for taking the images and not giving credit.

Then the woman in the images actually wrote me. I told her I was getting this criticism.

She told me her whole beautiful story which I included in my last book. But one thing she said was that for every creative thing you do: 1/3 will love you, 1/3 will hate you, and 1/3 won’t care.

Which means you should do what you love. You should do the best you can. You should try to do the things that will help you improve every day. And when bad comments come, just put them in that 1/3 bucket where it belongs.

V) DELETE

I’m always happy when someone disagrees with me. I don’t mind that.

But often people are incapable of expressing disagreement and it comes out in a way that is obnoxious or hateful.

When I can, I delete them. I can put “delete” in quotes. Sometimes its not a blog commenter but someone in real life. I delete them also. I don’t speak to people who are bad for me.

What if it’s a boss or someone you have to speak to? Well, I don’t engage with them. I let them do their thing. I nod hello in the hallways. I don’t kiss anyone’s ass to get them to like me, not even my daughters. Everyone gets their time in the “time out” box. And eventually, they can come out again if they behave.

What if it’s someone screaming at you on the phone? Just do this: “I have to go”. That’s worked against me, particularly when I was younger and wanted to scream more. “Why are you DOING THIS TO ME!?” And it felt very painful.

But it made me behave better next time.

VI) HATE IS CONTAGIOUS

Someone tweeted awhile ago: “James Altucher = #humangarbage”. I don’t know why he tweeted it. I didn’t know who he was. But I got angry for a second. I didn’t follow any of the above commandments.

I looked him up. He works at AOL. I tried to figure out how to get him fired. He made his one tweet but then it gave me maybe 1000 thoughts.

The worst thing you can do to your body is stab it. Anger is an emotional stab at your emotional body. Some religions say you should show compassion to your enemies. I don’t know. This is really hard to do.

The best I can do is recognize that I don’t know this person, and that every additional thought is another way for me to stab myself. Then the infection spreads inside of me, consumes me.

I don’t like to stab myself.

VII) YOU’LL NEVER KNOW

I could’ve contacted the guy and said, “I just need to know: why do you think I am human garbage.”

But this is one of those death bed moments.

People have said, “I am really glad I found out why that random stranger called me human garbage” on their death bed exactly zero times in the history of the universe.

There’s no need to know. And even if you do finally know…it will always turn out there was no good reason.

VIII) RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Let’s say someone does actually have a reason for hating you. And it’s easy to refute. Like they hate you because you are from Rhode Island but actually you are from Canada. You can say, “But I’m from Canada” and they will say, “Ugh, that’s even worse.”

Nobody ever changes their mind. Change is hard. Quitting cigarettes is very hard, almost impossible for many people.

Hating is even more addictive so imagine how hard it is to change someone’s mind. Facts don’t matter. Defending yourself makes it worse (see the 24 Hour Rule).

Even a history of friendship doesn’t matter. You can say, “We’ve been friends for 20 years. Are you really going to let this get in the way of that?”

And the answer is “Yes.” Because they can’t help themselves. Because it’s about some fear they have. Because it’s about some fear you have. And never the twain shall meet.

IX) THEY LOOK STUPID HAVING SEX

That’s all you ever really need to know about your haters. They all grunt and drool and look stupid.

If all you do is think of this rule about someone who hates you, then you can ignore all of the other rules.

X) TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS

Hate can’t last forever. Often it turns into a dull simmer. The sun that was so bright at noon, becomes a haze of purples and deep orange by twilight.

This doesn’t mean that you and the hater are now friends. It just means that the wound that was opened will eventually close up, and leave a tiny scar, a reminder but nothing more. Whether it was a betrayal. An ex-partner. An ex-lover. A commenter on a blog.

The key is to practice shortening the time.

You do this with the other nine commandments above. You do this with the daily practice of physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual health I recommend in my book.

I say “the daily practice” not because I want you to buy my book. Don’t buy it. It’s so easy you don’t need to read anything other than the above paragraph.

Do all this and the hate passes right through you. It’s hard to avoid all the haters. They are in your face sometimes. But you can do these methods.

For some people hate and anger and bitterness and regret last for years. Sometimes the time it takes to heal a wound lasts longer than a lifetime.

This is a waste of a lifetime.That’s ok also. Nobody is requiring you to have a fulfilling life. It’s totally your choice to waste your life.

And since many people will hate you as you stick your head out of the sand again and again (as I hope you do), you will have many opportunities to ruin your life. Enjoy them.

Sometimes (not every time) the more people who hate you, the more it means you are getting out of the comfort zone. You are creating and growing.

But hopefully your woulds heal more and more quickly. I say “your” but I really mean “me”. I hope my wounds every day heal more quickly than the day before. I wrote this post for me.

When a hater takes his or her stab, I try to use the above techniques to maybe learn about myself. And if I can’t learn a lot then maybe I can learn a little.

And if I can’t learn a little, then at least I will try to avoid getting sick.

And if I don’t get sick, then I will try to be thankful. And I move onto the next thing I can do. The next place where I will try to find love, creativity, and fulfillment.
http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2014/03/th ... th-haters/

I like this article. It has a few conflicting view points against the first. One attempts to create a bridge with the hater, and the other basically talks about dealing with them in a way that they just never will stop hating, so you learn and grow and become a better person.

Thinking they look ugly while having sex (the second article) is cognitive dissonance to put the hater down and make yourself feel better. I'm not going to do that, and you shouldn't either since it's fake.

Putting it together

I believe what I'll do, and what I recommend for you, is to classify haters into 2 categories. Potential friend, or growth opportunity.

I had a guy back in high school who used to talk shit about me in the back of the class every day. He would rally 2-3 other guys to join in on the fun. I felt humiliation every day and challenged him to fight several times even though I felt like he would kick my ass. He never did, and it turns out he saw a drawing I had on my binder of a show he liked, and was just trying to get my attention. Even in a hostile way.

Had i known then what I know now I would have tried to build a bridge with that guy on that first day of class. Then I would have had a new friend instead of dealing with an enemy all semester.

So all haters are potential friends, at first. I'll try to build a bridge with them using the question from the first article and charisma. If it fails they get put into the growth opportunity category and I'll use the cheat sheet commandments to deal with them.

I'll be back to re-read this post a few times. You should too. Have a great day!
The personality best for getting women.
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I just made a post that was worth expanding on in a thread I felt.

In that post I basically said a person needs to be allowed to choose his own personality.

In there he as what personality is best for getting women.

The answer I gave him was best for him to hear.

How I think about this topic in a generic manner is different, so I'm making a post.

In general you need to be as ruthless predator. This plays back into the instincts of a woman.

During the first great war of man. The war fought before the discovery of fire. When Giant Man eating animals attempted to slaughter our entire families in pitch black fire-less nights.

A man had to be ruthless, he had to have courage, he had to be intelligent in order to outsmart the many giant beasts. He had to be willing to fight to the death at a moments notice.

He had to be social most of all. Thinking about a time like this... A lone man was lunch meat. I'm sure there were more predator species out there than there were humans walking the earth.

He had to be confident enough to socialize with other humans to form protective social circles. Confident enough in himself to assure her they could survive a horrific and uncertain period of time.

He had to be positive. His outlook always had to be on the up and up. Because life depended on it. If he was always negative and gave up on things easily it would basically lead to death.

He had to have drive in his life and he needed to be active. A sloth who spent all day doing what ever they did for fun back then would starve and die.

You had to be trustworthy. The survival of the group depended on co-operation. The people who lied and cheated others in the group caused disharmony and if not expelled would threaten the lives of everyone there. If the girl chose one of these guys she'd either have to leave with him and have her children face the monsters of the night, or stay and lose a mate and father making her parenting job much harder.

If you think about it, most traits that a woman despises in a man if applied to that period of time would have lead to death.

So, if we were to take an animal and apply these qualities to it, I would say you would have to be like a wolf as the perfect example of what type of personality works best for getting women.

Among themselves wolves have all of these qualities and more. Study the wolf, emulate the wolf.

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I'll define true player status when I'm more of a wolf on the inside opposed to what I am today, and when pulling women isn't something I get rusty at if I don't practice, but an integral skill which is part of my core personality.

So I'm making a baby step plan here and performing it in the field report, any tips on the plan would be appreciated.

Week 1. Say Hi to 100 stranger women I find attractive to get rid of AA. I'm also learning new PU advice and watching videos, and practicing the stuff in my own home making everything natural and flowing.

Week 2. Attempt to close 1 new number each day. and say hi to 100 new women I find attractive

Week 3. Attempt to close 100 new women I find attractive.

Week 4. Attempt to close 100 new women I find attractive.

Week 5. Attempt to close 100 new women I find attractive.

Week 6. Attempt to close 100 new women I find attractive.

Week 7. Attempt to close 100 new women I find attractive.

Now that I have 500 approaches under my belt I can break down my numbers.

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Then keep the appropriate number of prospects at all times. This should turn me into the wolf I want to be, viewtopic.php?f=25&t=191082, and make me transform into the next version of myself.
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What sparked this thread is a conversation I had in chat where a guy claimed he wasn't a pua, but used natural game. We were talking about a girl who asked a question on how to get a guy back who went cold via text messages. He claimed the stuff that worked on women could work on men...

BTW I'm of the stance that strong male dominant body language and strong psychotic eye contact are not attractive qualities I look for in females.

Back on topic -

A PUA is a guy who is good enough with women to get them to do something they had no intention of doing from the start. That is it.

The artist part of the term being the point of it all. There is an art to persuading women with no immediate intent into doing something you want them to do.

A PUA is not a guy that plows through 99 rejections to find the one girl who would have been interested in him regardless of what he says.

A PUA is not just a guy who uses manipulative tactics and performances. If guys who do this can get women to do something they had no intention of doing from the start then he is a PUA, but his type does not define PUA as a whole.

As far as what you do, it doesn't matter - you could have read no PU books in your entire life - if you can get women to do something they had no intention of doing from the start then you are a PUA.
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You've made 64 posts in 3 days. Congratulations.

What the fuck was the point of this one?

Rejection is part of life. Everyone deals with rejections.
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Nice to meet you too majikal,
On the 64 posts note I'll tell you straight up, my schedule involves me living at home paying no rent while my mother foots all of the bills.

I could work because I have a degree, but she agreed to let me stay here while I start a business after she lived off me for a year, got on her feet and got herself a house.

My day is waking up and doing practical magic from initiation to hermetics (sadly I'm still only at level 1), checking the forum, going outside for a few hours talking to women, then coming back here, checking the forum, and then reading books and acting on my business plan, while periodically checking the forum.

Now that that's out of the way, to answer your statement...

Yeah a PUA faces rejection, often, and I never said he would persuade every woman he meets because that's common PU community sense that something like that doesn't exist. However, he sure as hell does not face 99 rejections to get 1 close. A person using a "PU" pedagogy like this is not an artist, therefore he is not a Pick Up Artist. He's just a Pick Up Plower, workhorse, a skilless man who is no different than an average joe who has 0 game but has common sense and the ability to walk up to 100 women.

People who play the game here are playing it on easy and do not deserve the honorary term of artist because there is no art involved in that man's craft.
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Hey, thanks for stopping by! Let me tell you a quick story.

A while back I had a roommate living in my apartment. One day he came home talking about this girl who took him to a swingers club. While there he said she annoyed him because she wouldn't let him fuck, so he ditched her and had a threesome with some lesbians he met in the couples lounge.

I knew she wanted to fuck, otherwise they wouldn't have been in that environment, and she was just giving him LMR. The girl still hung around my roommate, and he introduced me to her and asked me to ride with her to go pick something up.

In the car i started to steal the girl, which culminated later that night when she jumped in my bed to next to me to "just" lay down. Right...

So did my roommate get jealous? Did we start to argue. No not at all because he was a true player. Even though he didn't fuck he didn't care, and when he did fuck girls he would happily pass them on to me. He's now married with a kid.

You can have this mentality and still end up happy if you know how to handle women. Handling women

A quick contrasting story, I had a friend who thought he was a player, he was pretty good, who I called ugly. He then went on to say how if me and him were whispering in the same girls ear (him on one side, me on the other) than he would take every one.

So I saw this as a challenge. He often brought different women around, So I targeted the best looking one. After holding a few meaningless conversations and barely showing her any interest I found myself outside the club with her in a one on one situation. She had the most beautiful eyes I'd ever seen, and I had a sudden urge to kiss her.

So I did, and surprisingly she responded enthusiastically (remember I had not been "gaming" her). After that i started hanging with his girl a lot outside of our little social circle. The dude got upset and wanted to fight. It shocked me because I thought he was a true player and had many women. (the back story of this girl is that she actually had a boyfriend and she was cheating on her boyfriend with my "friend", and he often bragged about how the boyfriend knew but was too pussy to do anything about it.) Even though he had plenty of other women, and this girl had a boyfriend, he was still jealous of me out of insecurity.

The moral of the story and lesson I want you take away today is that the ability to get women mean nothing if you are insecure on the inside. You won't get happiness through just that. You also shouldn't be arrogant enough to think that other guys out here don't have the ability to take these women your'e with. Be secure enough in yourself to not be crushed or enraged when it happens, and you'll always have happiness.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:06 pm 
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Now that we're up to speed I'll be putting my new stuff here.

As a Magi I'm supposed to be letting go of earthly pleasures, but as MAN I can do what I want and have anything.

Today, I want to talk about the role women play in shaping your life.

Man, the clay molded by women.

Will Durant surmised that modern civilization can be attributed 100% to women. Back in the day a man would roam the countryside following herds to hunt for meat. Women stayed at home and began delving in farming.

Eventually men saw they didn't need to roam, and started settling in places with a centralized food source, and they would stay home and farm, develop families, establish communities, and then create civilization.

This sparked an idea that should be plain as the nose on your face. This community, these new laws you govern your life with, your very personality, are centered around what women want.

I want you to understand that your identity belongs to women. The city you live in belongs to women.

The job of women is to civilize man. This process is still being done on a micro scale in our day to day interactions with women.

So don't get upset when you sense a woman trying to change and subtly manipulate you. It's in her nature, just accept it, be aware, and if you think her motives are to fix some flaw in you (and you accept it as a flaw she's trying to fix without other selfish motives on her end) just let her fix the damn flaw, and grow as a man.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:21 pm 
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Hundreds of Approaches and No Success.

When we say success... C'mon you know I'm talking about beating guts.

I was shocked to discover recently that this is actually a common thing.

Here's the thing, there's a reason why you've approached hundreds of women and aren't getting any progress.

The specific reason might be different for each one of you, but the general reason is that your pick up pedagogy has a or multiple holes in it.

You're triggering a red flag somewhere along the lines of first impression to penetration.

I play a lot of chess. If I lost 500 games in a row then clearly I'm doing something wrong. It's not some curse or magical force preventing me from winning, it's me. Things are happening in the game outside of my awareness which cause me to lose.

So, I'm going to provide you a few things to ask yourself here, and you need to be man enough to be honest with yourself.

Am I in shape?
Is my style (if not outstanding) at least not getting in my way?
Is my inside congruent with my outside?
Do I feel like I'm arrogant or confident?
What sort of body language am I projecting? Do I even know what my projections trigger in the women?
Has anything I've ever done gotten a positive reaction out of a woman?
Why am I not doing more of that?
Do I even know the steps to the human mating dance?
Am I using the best tools known to handle each stage?
Am I pushing my interactions along to the close?
Do I say a ton of pointless fluff stuff that does not help me get to my goal?
At what point between first impression and penetration do I get rejected the most often?
Why at that point do I get the most rejections, is it normal for the methods I use?
What commonly works best for this point?
Why can't I get it to work for me if many others can get it to work for them?
Do I listen to advice and make a real effort on it or do I just hear and acknowledge it in my head?
Am I a sloth?
Am I boring?
Am I dull witted?
Do I know how to think critically?
Do I not care enough to put the effort in?
Am I only doing stuff that sounds easy, and not the stuff that is the best?
What RED FLAG am I triggering?
Can I even see my flaws yet?
Am I honest enough to see them?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:22 pm 
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The Obsession of Greatness

I was watching a gnostic video on Isaac Newton and the way he lived his life made since why he ended up so great at what he did.

He was passionate about his craft up to and passed the point of madness. He ENJOYED spending hundreds of hours sitting in a room contemplating the universe and solving complex mathematical equations.

If you're bad at this stuff, I mean really awful - like beginner level, and you have aspirations to be great at it. The first thing you need is enjoyment, the second is passion and obsession.

It's not good to live solely for pick up, but the beauty of this stuff is that creating value and status in your life is an attractive quality to women. You need goals for yourself outside of meeting women that are productive.

So, I suggest you become obsessed with this area of your life. Make it funner than playing video games or watching movies, or what ever you do for fun right now. Enjoyment is key. When you enjoy something there isn't enough time in the day to enjoy it, especially when you're obsessed with it also.

Be obsessed with making your skills better, be obsessed with your inner psychology, be obsessed with thinking positively, be obsessed with creating value in your life, be obsessed with raising your status.

Enjoyment and Passion/Obsession is the killer combo to becoming great at something.


P.S. - If You're curious about the video I was watching, you can find it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIRdtSNrUUg

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:58 am 
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And I heard him say, Nothings ever promised tomorrow today.

In a recent post I talked about the immortality-complex of youth. We, the young operate as if we have so much time left in our lives to accomplish our goals, meet the women we want, and have the lives we want.

From what I know there is nothing stopping you from getting that right now. It's all a state of mind. Words are powerful, and as MAN you are held responsible for everything you think, say, and do.

If you only knew...

I won't get into all of that, but something that you should be able to accept within the scope of your current belief system is that you are promised death. It's coming for you. Imagine it's sitting in the room with you right now deciding on whether or not to check you off the list tomorrow, heck right now even.

WAKE THE FUCK UP

If there is something you want to do, do it NOW! That excuse you just thought up, is it really stopping you? Can you think of a way around it? If you think you can't just know this... I would. At least I would try, and try, and try again. I'd come up with a bunch of different ways to fix it, and then act on those plans.

Try me. Shoot me a pm with the thing you want most in life and the excuses you have as to why you can't get it and I'll give you a way around it.

I move through life with the attitude of a man that won't stop, and I have an unshakable belief in myself. Sure I face failures all of the time. Not every plan I make results exactly how I anticipated, but I won't stop. I can't stop.

This is the only life I've got. This is my story. I'm the main character.

You know what you need to do. Only a boy thinks his time is infinite, become a man right now and act on what you have to do with ruthless aggression.

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Based on these rambling, nagging nonsense and shamelessly flawed plan on becoming a player, I postulate that your testosterone level is TOO LOW.

Let's revise your flawed plan of becoming a player into something more realistic.

Step 1. Do 100 push ups a day.

Step 2. Do 100 leg raises a day.

https://youtu.be/l4kQd9eWclE

Step 3. Fix your diet. Eat right in the right amounts and properly balanced nutrients.

Step 4. Stop posting these nonsense and focus on the Newbie Mission which is stickied right here.

Step 5. Before you get out to sarge, fix your wardrobe and grooming. Take some fashion tips from Dragula. He's got it all figured out.

Step 6. Once you are comfortable with the Newbie Mission, ISOLATE 100 girls either through instadates or a simple "Let's go over there." You CANNOT fucking f-close if you CANNOT fucking isolate just one girl. A date at McDonald's or Starbucks does not count as a successful isolation since you cannot whip your dick out at fucking McDonald's or get the girl to suck your cock at fucking Starbucks.

Step 7. If you can already isolate, then you can fucking f-close once you hurdle fucking LMRs.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:54 pm 
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Man In the Mirror

Hellhound, thanks for stopping by.

I doubt things I talk about related to Will Durant, and my personal opinions on women, or the questions unsuccessful guys should ask themselves are mentioned in the newbie thread....

You know, or the inner game of a magi.
Or how telling inspirational stories relates to game.
Or, you know, the other stuff...
But, I appreciate you stopping by and reading a few things.

On What hellhound has posted.

There is this prevailing thought that, all you need to do is get in shape and everything will take care of itself. Being in shape is important, but that does not address the insecurities you have in your personality.

Not being mean, I'll refrain from using his name, but there is a user who is a 2nd degree black belt in a martial art who frequents the chat room. He's not ugly, tall, in shape, and could probably kick many peoples asses that he comes across. He's also a virgin, and has gotten all of the advice under the sun on how to get women from MANY guys in the chat room. Moderators included.

He's been doing this for years with no success due to the things under the hood. Too many people focus on the external when they need to start with the man in the mirror.

Read the post above that says inner game of the magi. re-read it. Then spend a month doing it and don't stop till you've found at least 100 problems. Most won't come to you in the first sitting, many you'll discover in your day to day life as you make mistakes, and get upset.

Know thy self.

Objectifying inner demons is very important. I've got methods of removing them. You could rationalize my methods as using cold water to as an anchor for getting rid of it. A more spiritual person would see it as washing their sins away. I won't explain my beliefs on it, but it works.

There are also hundreds of methods online on how to get rid of bad habits you can look up. Once you have the list it's easy to address things. You have to be honest though, and many, many things are hard to admit, even to yourself.

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To further drive home this to you dedicated readers, here's a qoute from another man on this forum who's done around 500 approaches and is still a virgin.

He took the time to answer the questions I listed above. I'll just quote his first answer:
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Am I in shape?

In good shape and can do 100 push-ups. But I would like to be more jacked and eat more healthily.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:07 pm 
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Dealing with conflict - A Practical example

Ok, so a few posts back you saw a man with some forum clout come in here and attempt to shit all over my ideas and opinions, and then inject his own.

Did I get upset? No. Did I attempt to fight him? No. I did point out a few holes in his assessment though.

The reason people like this can't be simply ignored is because reputation is everything. Had I just ignored him, maybe he would leave, but it would create the appearance of me accepting his terms. And my credibility could be damaged with you.

This is something I learned via the 48 laws of power. Law 5 - Reputation is everything, guard it with your life.

Let's look at it from the view of my dealing with haters post.

I didn't try to build a bridge with him, because he came in clearly looking for a fight. I could have, but I doubt it would have worked. I examined myself to see if there were any fears he had been touching on, and I found none. So I'm chalking it up to some insecurity he has about himself, and forgetting about it.

When dealing with issues, first ask yourself if the person is of the value level to allow you to build a bridge(more on that in a moment). Then ask if their words hold enough weight to damage your reputation. Finally, use their words to asses yourself for weaknesses and insecurities, if there aren't any, forget about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:17 pm 
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I am reading through all of this and it's almost like you're being possessed by Fudge_88.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:23 pm 
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Value Level Of Others

Here we'll discuss a few different types of people you'll run into as you socialize more.

I learned these concepts from the TAO of badass, and if you have the time you should check it out. You'll find a few nuggets in there not mentioned anywhere else in pick up.

Value level 6,7,8,9/10

A value level of 6 is a person who loves appeasing others, and just wants to be liked.

A value level of 7 is a hostile person who used to be a 6, wanted to change, and is suffering from a polar opposite insecurity complex which makes them ready to fight at a moments notice. Proving to themselves that they aren't that same doormat.

A value level of 8 used to be a 7 but through meeting up with other 7s he beat them and became competitive. He's confident and always wants to prove that he's better than others.

A value level of 9/10 - what separates 9 from a 10 is that a 10 thinks he's perfect and has no room for growth, while a 9 always keeps an open mind. 9/10 are people who are cooperative. They like helping others, and working together with people.

You should always asses the value of the person you're speaking with. It allows you to accurately predict a ton of their actions.

Never lie.

To appease a 6 simply tell them how you like them. Give them a few genuine things you like about them.

To appease a 7 you can tell them how you respect that they voice their opinions, and it remind you a lot of yourself. - I could have used this tactic on the poster earlier, but then I would have had to wait for him to respond in order to get the rest of these posts off, and it doesn't always work.

To appease an 8 you show them how they've earned your respect in someway and make them feel like they've won something. - Again I could have used this on the poster earlier, but didn't for the reason listed in 7.

9s/10s all you need to do is be cooperative and a good person, and they make things easy for you to get along. Simply because they get along with most people already.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:26 pm 
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I am reading through all of this and it's almost like you're being possessed by Fudge_88.
I'm assuming that's a good thing, you seemed to like him in that pm you sent me. I'll look him up and read some of his stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:42 pm 
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I am reading through all of this and it's almost like you're being possessed by Fudge_88.
I'm assuming that's a good thing, you seemed to like him in that pm you sent me. I'll look him up and read some of his stuff.
He and I had no problems. Had fun in chat with him.

Now to cut out the bullshit...
I think you're him and it's kind of fucked up that you're wasting everyone's time here pretending to be someone else. Everything from the phraseology and the formatting of your more current posts scream that the two of you are absolutely the same person. Your family/friends background info that you gave me was also too similar to be just a coincidence.

The kicker is when you started talking about Reg. I personally know how much time you spent working with him. To pretend that you are aware of him and his problems while being completely new to the forum is ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:49 pm 
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I honestly don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, I did a quick search on him and found some very interesting things. There is some massive stuff on here he posted that will take time for me to go through. Anyone else you think is similar to my line of thinking that I should look up?

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