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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:00 pm 
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Alright have a quick question. Tried to get one of the girls I was talking to to come hang out at an event. She didn't get off till early this morning and texted me "hey. I won't be able to make it today". should I say anything or just not respond. I think that I shouldnt, but I don't know For sure.


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 6:58 am 
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I feel that the more you get into mundane chatting, the more mystery you're SPAM, or risk running out of interesting things to say i.e. turn into one of her gf's or AFC's.

Take this girl who I number closed at a party, a friendly drunk was harassing her so I approached and whispered into her ear to act like my gf so he goes away and she did. The gf bit is now our inside joke.

Contact time circled in red, check what happens when I contact her again too fast (Keep in mind that she isn't a native English):

Day 1:
(She has a profile pic with her cat)
1- http://postimg.org/image/uj670u18f/
2- http://postimg.org/image/43ki2fo05/
3- http://postimg.org/image/3qeolh461/

In "3", I contact her again in less than a day and already she's isn't as engaging as she was the night before, using one word answers, taking longer to reply etc.

4- http://postimg.org/image/he2pb9vx9/
After "4", I warm her up a little and get her -a little- more talkative, then I aim for another innuendo
6- http://postimg.org/image/7erp4noed/
7- http://postimg.org/image/a0zbzhzj9/
Her response wassn't positive at all this time. She basically felt like she could drag me into her own game/shit test/whatever, I didn't feel like dealing with a 6 yo's attitude so I've gone NC for a little while.
8- http://postimg.org/image/jgrrnj48n/

Now, granted I don't have the best text game (haven't tried it in 3 years), and that I should've denied her frame as soon as she said that I'm bullying her. But I believe that a big part of why the second convo isn't going as smooth is because I couldn't keep fucking still long enough before texting her again. Pretty sure that if it would've happened a couple of days later, that same conversation would've gone in a whole different rate, mostly her responses.

Cliffs to long post:
- Big_H believes a decent time period should be between text/call conversations
- Shares his experience with shots of chat with a girl
- girl responds well in first convo
- Big_H fks up and texts her again less than a day later, her responses are alot less intrigued
- Girl ends up trying to play games Big_H, he goes NC for having no appropriate response


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:36 am 
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Most guys that call get it wrong and are uncalibrated.

Call when you have a good vibe going back and forth and she is texting healthy and fast...

If you get a number from a night out and just straight up call out of the blue. You will lose serious man points unless the number is super super solid which is impossible to know for sure with girls these days...

Getting called out of the blue whilst I am at work or at a restaurant is annoying as fuck and I'm sure girls feel the same way and can hurt your man points.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 1:01 am 
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hmmm alright so I think the way I'm texting is way wrong. The way I've seen some of ya'lls messages. Mine Kinda poke fun at them and I usually don't put anything sexual. I'm just not skilled enough I guess to add this in, or confident enough.

The way I'm texting is kind of poking fun at them and kinda learning more about them. Keeping the conversation off of me and keeping it about her.

I was talking to the girl that bailed on me today, it was going good then, she took longer and replied back with shorter replies. So I ended the conversation saying I was going on a run.

I have been talking to another girl that I didn't think would go anywhere, but it seems to be going better with her than the other. She told me she would text me after a concert she was attending, but never did. Which was good cause I wasn't going to respond. I was sick as hell. I feel there's a better vibe with her than the first girl.

So I guess the question I need to know now is should you use texting as a means to get to know them better or save that for phone calls?
I'm guessing phone calls...


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:36 am 
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All of these silly rules go out the window when you come to a firm understanding of confidence and frame. I can't speak for these guys but I talk to women on the phone for hours all the time. I just enjoy it man. One of my favorite leisure activities is to laugh, joke and flirt with a woman over the phone.

Does it ruin my mystery? Hell no. Because my mystery goes far deeper than anything I can express through an hour long conversation. Purposely trying to be mysterious is a reflection of someone trying to protect something they don't actually have. How else do you propose people end up in relationships and live together for years while keeping the attraction alive? Thats hours upon hours of living amongst each other. That far beats texting often or talking on the phone.

When something is in you, you don't have to consciously try to project it or protect. That shit is already within you.

I text I call, I video chat, I whats app, I Facebook message, I walkie talkie. Any tool you give me I will use it to develop an emotional connection with a woman. I don't care what it is. Some are better than others sure, but if all I had was morse code, I have the confidence to make that shit work.

Your focus should be cultivating real mystery and cultivating real confidence so you don't have to bother yourself with trying to falsely project or protect an image. Now I'm not saying it can't work, its just going to catch up with you one way or another.

You have to trust out your gut and you have to make sacrifices to begin cultivating the character you want. You have to let girls go, you have to walk away while theres cards still on the table. This allows you to truly create the character that women will gravitate to. If you just want to be mediocre, do the mediocre things and expend all of your options, but if you want to be great you have to master the art of sacrificing the women you have today, for the greater women you will have access to tomorrow.

Its a lot to just take in on one post man, but if you want to take a strong leap of faith that will ultimately lead to a better you if you have to desire to succeed at this, delete the girls numbers you've been talking to and challenge yourself to get new ones. I know you're capable.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:49 am 
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alright so delete the one chick that bailed and is keeping it short. gotcha. What about the girl that does seem interested?
I didn't delete the other chicks number that I know I lost. I just quit talking to her, probably won't ever talk to her again.
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Your focus should be cultivating real mystery and cultivating real confidence so you don't have to bother yourself with trying to falsely project or protect an image. Now I'm not saying it can't work, its just going to catch up with you one way or another.
I actually answered you on my other topic about this. This is what I'm focusing more on as of now. Building confidence, fun fun. I've actually have read books about portraying false confidence and it backfiring later on.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 3:17 am 
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Yeah man.

This just must be your mentality. Think it first, speak it, and your behaviors will follow your thoughts in the months to come.

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God. You speak things into existence.

Build the proper mental frame first. And that's what i'm providing. Your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits, your habits become your character and your character becomes your destiny.

Believe when no one else does.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:02 pm 
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Ok so here's another question. I got a text late as hell last night from a girl that seems pretty interested. It was just a simple "Made it to ***** I waved as I went through (my town)". I didn't respond to it cause I was trying to sleep and didn't think it really needed a response. How do ya'll handle random text's like this?

I was thinking of sending a "I waved back at you? Didn't you see?" But this doesn't feel like I could build any attraction off of it... Thoughts?


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:48 am 
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Ok I replied back to her. I'll post the conversation. Let me know what ya'll think

me-I waved back didn't you see? ;)
her-oh yea! I thought it was a hitch hiker so I kept moving. ;)
me-thanks, I'm still sitting here. Waiting on a ride. Thumb is getting sore
her-haha at least you're surviving!
me-yeah, the storms were having lately aren't anything to worry about. At least a sexy chick waved at me before a tornado gets me.;)
her-Oh really someone else waved too!?
me-well, there were a few actually. But there was one that was pulling a u-haul or something that stood out a little more
her-Pah!Wow! you're ridiculous!
me-I'm a lot of things. First time I've been called that though
her-First time for everything...
me-haha yep. Well I found a bridge to crash under. It's been a long busy day. Shoot me a text tomorrow.
her-Ok! Stay Dry!

how was that? I did it completely different then I used to do it (since I've been trying to step my game up). Used to I'd ask about their day and all that crap. I tried to stay away from doing that as much as possible.

fyi she's moving so she was pulling a u haul trailer...

Let me know! Thanks!


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Better, although you're still qualifying before it is warranted.

She sounds into man. I do want to advise that you learn to not end conversations. While texting you don't have to "end" necessarily. You can just write back as necessary until you feel like not responding leaving it up to one of you to reinitiate.

And how did you go from not responding to responding..

Whats the relationship with the girl? Have you called her? Hung out with her? kissed her? Anything?

If not, its too early to stress it. You have to focus on becoming a bit independent as well. Make it to level to 2 or 3 before consulting. Otherwise you'll make a habit of leaning for assistance for the basics. You want to ask for him when its actually needed. You're more than capable to help yourself for things on this level.

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Better, although you're still qualifying before it is warranted.
On this was it because I pretty much pointed her out and called her sexy?

I've been working on not ending conversations. I've talked to her more just I wasn't for sure about this one. I didn't know if the one text where she said I was ridiculous was good or bad. Inner nice guy went straight to defensive mode. I fought off trying to ask what she ment or apologize for some dumb reason. Actually this was the first time I ended the conversation with this chick. I'll try to not end them anymore.

Relationship? Another girl I met online. Haven't met in person yet though I did call her Tuesday I think. It went good. Talked for about 20 minutes.

How did I go from not responding to responding? She text me that she went through my town and waved. It was about 15 hours before I responded back.


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Better, although you're still qualifying before it is warranted.
On this was it because I pretty much pointed her out and called her sexy?

I've been working on not ending conversations. I've talked to her more just I wasn't for sure about this one. I didn't know if the one text where she said I was ridiculous was good or bad. Inner nice guy went straight to defensive mode. I fought off trying to ask what she ment or apologize for some dumb reason. Actually this was the first time I ended the conversation with this chick. I'll try to not end them anymore.

Relationship? Another girl I met online. Haven't met in person yet though I did call her Tuesday I think. It went good. Talked for about 20 minutes.

How did I go from not responding to responding? She text me that she went through my town and waved. It was about 15 hours before I responded back.
Have you set up a meet up date?

Is your last interaction just to keep it warm?

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Have you set up a meet up date?
No not yet. Been to busy at the moment to do anything.
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If your last interaction just to keep it warm?
Yeah I guess.


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