I don't understand this mantra Don't ever Pay for Sex
you always pay for sex, and why I can pay for ice cream and can't pay for sex

If there was stores on every corner SPAM "free" ice cream.. You would walk into a store thats charging and pay for the same ice cream?

And I don't think you always pay of sex. I recently posted a thread about getting a girl to come over without going on a date. Unless you're of the " you're paying with your time" belief. All it takes is a phone call, honesty , and a few text messages.

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I honestly might though. if im shelling out money for tinder i could shell out for a ons

I used to be pretty confident but lately i feel like the constant rejection is taking it's yoll. Even with normal guys im stumbling over my words, sweating and i hear my voice getting higher.

I just have to keep going but i feel like im fucking up more and more everyday

I've never done it so I can't relate, but i'm been told that guys feel disgusting after. Just know that you share in the essence of anyone you have sex with. Learn that from listening or learn it the hard way.

Just look at the quality, structure, and attitude coming from that guy that gave you that suggestion. Compare that to Mr.Asssertives or mine. There is a major difference in quality of character even in the self expression coming from us both. You want to be like that guy? Listen to him. Just know that nothing is ever that simple. And theres consequences for every action.

And last but not least, by repeating things like " i'm fucking up more and more" is only working to keep you further and further away from the success your'e looking for. You want to tell yourself what you want to be instead of what you're doing. Strengthen your mind with reassuring thoughts, don't attack it. Tell yourself you'll get better and better and give this shit all you have. Tell yourself that you believe in yourself and that if you just stay consistent you will have a break through.

Did you comply with the 90 days no masturbation? I'm willing to bet you haven't. Or did you just come here to whine and feel sorry for yourself? Do what was instructed first.

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Are you calling me a 'keyboard jockey' because I gave you my perspective on your problem and it wasn't to your liking? I'm not bothered by you trying to get your point across quickly, you did the job perfectly and I addressed your point like I would with anyone else. I'm not targetting you, I have nothing against you nor do I know you.

I wouldn't suggest banging fat chicks unless you're actually attracted to fat chicks.
At least if you hire a prostitute you're attracted to, you're, you know, attracted to her. For all intents and purposes, it's about like a ONS. I don't think it's a healthy long term habit, but I can't see it as even one third as detrimental as banging fat chicks.

I think of fucking a fat chick as like fucking a man(as a straight guy). Again, if you're into dudes, cool, but if not, what kind of weird ass goal is that? Imagine Sound ludicrous? That's exactly what is being suggested here. If you like fat girls, by all means, go bang a fat girl. But given your language, I have to think you're not attracted to them.

So don't bang fat chicks if you're not attracted to them. Don't bang your dog either. Every hole is not a goal.

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well you pay rent for your apartment, but with prostitute he can choose what he wants really to fuck, and the girl who just went to your apartment is not common thing that's why you wrote the article about it, because you got lucky (we don't know how she looks also)
I got lucky once too, girl paid $50 in a hookah bar and sucked my dick, but I know it will not happen constantly and to everybody.

He has barely approaches any girls.

As soon as he gets rejected, he gets depressed and moans on the forums.

It's kinda insulting to my work. It's like he expects every girl he approaches will bang him. Most people who are any good have been rejected a lot. Simple as that.



Put in the work that is required to do this. Simple as that.

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Exactly what a dude that fucks prostitutes would say. Lol

I'd said i'd post several similar threads. It was posted to help others. Making a basketball shot with your eyes closed sounds like "luck" to someone who hasn't practiced it.

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I'm doing it today guys. Got a promotion at work so im feeling on top of the world.

10 girls. I'll update you guys and whatever happens i won't get bent out of shape

Approached 7 yesterday. Two decent conversations. I was on a small satellite campus yesterday so slim pickings. Felt pretty good overall though

On main campus with a huge break today.

Details about yesterday and today will be posted later tonight for sure

Doesn't it seem like you're trying to compensate quality with quantity? You should work on the former first, or you'll only ever get good results by chance. How do you usually approach these girls? How do they usually respond? Can you see a pattern forming?

17 girls and I'm really starting to feel like I'm getting better at this. Friday i got a date for monday, Yesterday I got a date for tuesday and last night i chilled with this girl from my class, got drinks and we went back to her dorm room. Unfortunately, we never got to do anything because she didn't expect her roommate to be home/being a pissy bitch cause some guy stood her up.

I'm actually getting pretty good at this though. I'm opening conversation and being able to carry myself like i always have but I'm ACTUALLY finding the courage to simply tell her that what ever she's talking about is really beautiful (your kindness, fashion sense, drive, etc). I'm not shy about taking her hands and just generally touching. shit, yesterday in the bar i grabbed her hands mid conversation while cracking a joke and rested them on my shoulders and she didn't even flinch. in fact she smiled and kept them there on her own. Sure it's not straight up telling her "Hey let's fuck" but i'm getting positive results.

I used to get anxious mid conversation, knowing i had to raise tension and make it known that i'm actually interested in her. My voice would get higher, i would just get verbal diarrhea and just keep bragging or talking abut myself. It's why i can have a million girls talking to me be never interested. I just never became the dude who was so dependent that i got friendzoned.

I guess if there's anything i still get SO nervous about his the initial kiss. I know that if i had done tht for the two girls i set up dates with there would stand nearly no chance of getting flaked on and with the girl from the bar/class i probably could have fucked her in my car instead of the dorm (I just assumed dorm would have been more comfortable anyway. And hell, she invited me so who was i to say no)

Still got a ways to go, and unfortunately school will be out for the summer soon, but it isn't as bad. I find myself needing a couple practice runs before i really get more in sync with what i'm doing and saying.

That just goes to show that taking action will completely change ones attitude. You were once crying and complain without barely having any approaches under your belt and now look at you. Doing your thing.

Every guy must also understand that never everyone is going to succeed at this. It's like trying to get a job at google. Many will try, and few will be selected. Some guys will approach thousands and get no where. Others may approach hundred and get somewhere. Everyone isn't guaranteed entry, but you can't let that stop you from trying. You can't let subpar looks stop you either. Every guy ain't going to score a ten despite his looks, but some will. You have to go out there and be the one. You have to understand that you were made for this shit. You're chosen. Believe in you and you'll be at your best. If you don't make it.. shrug it off, at least you know you gave it everything you had.

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So what would you say is key here? I still get moments of nervousness and uneasiness when I'm having a conversation. I can feel myself getting motor mouth mid conversation. Controlling and focusing on my breathing helps a bit but i still have this issue.

Also kiss closing is still something that really gets me nervous. I just never know when and never really pull the trigger