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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:13 pm 
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Haven't gone out to try the new approach yet. Scared shitless because I can't figure out how I should give the proper compliment. I know I'm over thinking it, but I can't help myself.

I will, however, go out and talk to a few today, and just go with the flow.


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Haven't gone out to try the new approach yet. Scared shitless because I can't figure out how I should give the proper compliment. I know I'm over thinking it, but I can't help myself.

I will, however, go out and talk to a few today, and just go with the flow.

Then just say " I love your hair" for now.. No use over complicating things.. Girls spend every morning getting their hair how they like it. Basic compliments.. " I love your hair" - " I love your shoes" .. Two things women put lots of time and attention to.

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Then just say " I love your hair" for now.. No use over complicating things.. Girls spend every morning getting their hair how they like it. Basic compliments.. " I love your hair" - " I love your shoes" .. Two things women put lots of time and attention to.
Noted. Will do that. Thanks!


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I only managed to approach 4 women today partly due to my schedule, and partly due to nerves.

1) Went to a mall and approached the first one to ask if she knows where I can find a pharmacy. She said no and walked off.

2) Approached the 2nd one with the same excuse(pharmacy), and this one was helpful. While she was trying to point me in the right direction, I introduced myself, got her name, and told her I actually really just wanna tell her she's very attractive. She giggled and said thanks, and I proceed to ask if she liked coffee. She said yes and I said maybe we can meet up for coffee later in the week and passed her my phone. She giggled again and refused to take my phone. I didn't know how to escalate so I just said "Ok, no worries. It was nice meeting you though, have a nice day." shook her hand and parted ways.

3) Approached the 3rd one On the street to ask if she knows where's the nearest Starbucks. While she was trying to figure out where it is I quickly introduced myself and asked for her name. She didn't want to tell me and walked off.

4) Went to a park where people jogged in the evening and found this girl walking her dog. I said to her, "You have a really cute dog, can I pet it?", and proceed to pet the dog before she can say yes or no. I then introduced myself and asked for her name. She was friendly and gave me her name. We then talked a little bit about pets(told her I'm a cat person but I like dogs too) and then I said I need to continue my workout and asked her if she'd like to grab a coffee another day and chat more, and passed her my phone. And she actually gave me her number. My first cold approach number! Yay!

What do I do what do I do what do I do???

I need to rush off to work so I didn't talk to any other women, plus I wanted to end the day on a positive note.


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I only managed to approach 4 women today partly due to my schedule, and partly due to nerves.

1) Went to a mall and approached the first one to ask if she knows where I can find a pharmacy. She said no and walked off.

2) Approached the 2nd one with the same excuse(pharmacy), and this one was helpful. While she was trying to point me in the right direction, I introduced myself, got her name, and told her I actually really just wanna tell her she's very attractive. She giggled and said thanks, and I proceed to ask if she liked coffee. She said yes and I said maybe we can meet up for coffee later in the week and passed her my phone. She giggled again and refused to take my phone. I didn't know how to escalate so I just said "Ok, no worries. It was nice meeting you though, have a nice day." shook her hand and parted ways.

3) Approached the 3rd one On the street to ask if she knows where's the nearest Starbucks. While she was trying to figure out where it is I quickly introduced myself and asked for her name. She didn't want to tell me and walked off.

4) Went to a park where people jogged in the evening and found this girl walking her dog. I said to her, "You have a really cute dog, can I pet it?", and proceed to pet the dog before she can say yes or no. I then introduced myself and asked for her name. She was friendly and gave me her name. We then talked a little bit about pets(told her I'm a cat person but I like dogs too) and then I said I need to continue my workout and asked her if she'd like to grab a coffee another day and chat more, and passed her my phone. And she actually gave me her number. My first cold approach number! Yay!

What do I do what do I do what do I do???

I need to rush off to work so I didn't talk to any other women, plus I wanted to end the day on a positive note.
Number 2 just wanted to banter a bit more, she was obviously interested but just didn't want to come across as too easy. You run into those everyday. You could of did one of three things.. 1) Suggest that you can her go for coffee now instead. 2) Say "fine.. I'll put it in myself, whats your phone number? I'll text you later on. 3) deescalate back into conversation by first calling her out and providing a topic " You probably wanna know my favorite color first huh? Arlight fine, its blue.. Whats yours? " - talk a bit more and then attempt to hand her the phone again.

Nice job either way.

3) Happens to the best of us.. I had a girl say to me " Why are you even talking to me? " with the most evil look on her face the other week. I never usually eject after one rejection, but that one got to me a bit and i had to take a couple minutes to recover.

4) Thumbs up bro. The energy form that high from your first number makes it a lot easier to pick up women after that. You would of probably snagged a couple more if you continued.

How did it feel?

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Number 2 just wanted to banter a bit more, she was obviously interested but just didn't want to come across as too easy. You run into those everyday. You could of did one of three things.. 1) Suggest that you can her go for coffee now instead. 2) Say "fine.. I'll put it in myself, whats your phone number? I'll text you later on. 3) deescalate back into conversation by first calling her out and providing a topic " You probably wanna know my favorite color first huh? Arlight fine, its blue.. Whats yours? " - talk a bit more and then attempt to hand her the phone again.

Nice job either way.
I was a pile of nerves and couldn't think straight. Will try to apply what you menitoned should it happen the next time.
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4) Thumbs up bro. The energy form that high from your first number makes it a lot easier to pick up women after that. You would of probably snagged a couple more if you continued.
It's much easier to approach when there's a good excuse. I was walking around for quite a while before coming across this girl walking her dog. There were other females walking dogs but they were either obviously someone's wife or mother or a hired help(maids are very common here and they're usually the ones doing the dog walking.
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How did it feel?
It felt great! But I was also nervous as hell!

My hand was shaking when I handed her my phone.


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Number 2 just wanted to banter a bit more, she was obviously interested but just didn't want to come across as too easy. You run into those everyday. You could of did one of three things.. 1) Suggest that you can her go for coffee now instead. 2) Say "fine.. I'll put it in myself, whats your phone number? I'll text you later on. 3) deescalate back into conversation by first calling her out and providing a topic " You probably wanna know my favorite color first huh? Arlight fine, its blue.. Whats yours? " - talk a bit more and then attempt to hand her the phone again.

Nice job either way.
I was a pile of nerves and couldn't think straight. Will try to apply what you menitoned should it happen the next time.
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4) Thumbs up bro. The energy form that high from your first number makes it a lot easier to pick up women after that. You would of probably snagged a couple more if you continued.
It's much easier to approach when there's a good excuse. I was walking around for quite a while before coming across this girl walking her dog. There were other females walking dogs but they were either obviously someone's wife or mother or a hired help(maids are very common here and they're usually the ones doing the dog walking.
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How did it feel?
It felt great! But I was also nervous as hell!

My hand was shaking when I handed her my phone.
Lol

By the time this thread get to about 12 pages long you're going to read your post from the first page and not even remember who that guy was..

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Didn't go out to talk to women yesterday because I wasn't feeling too well. The weather is crazy hot lately and I think I may be coming down with something.

Still wasn't feeling too good today but I forced myself to go to a mall where there's a supermarket chain and started looking for targets to talk to. Today's crowd was mostly families, and couples, so the choices were limited. I did see 2 girls waiting for their bubble tea order, but there were quite a few other people around them, plus they were quite young(early/mid 20s) and I couldn't come up with an excuse to talk to them without looking very obvious that I was hitting on them. Plus with so many other people around their parents could be right there near them.

The only other girls I saw alone looked even younger(late teens/early 20s), and I was very self-conscious about my age and didn't wanna risk creeping her out.

Walked around for 30 minutes and decided to go somewhere else, so I drove to a hypermarket. Not much better there, more families and couples. The only women I feel like I could approach(mid 30s and above) annd had family or children with them. Only saw a girl in her 20s pushing a trolled alone, but my brain was a blank and I couldn't think of an excuse to talk to her.

I was a pile of nerves and although I tried to establish eye contact with some of the women, none of them looked my way.

I then went to a Couch Surfing gathering. Everyone was of course friendly because that's the whole point of the gathering. I talked to all 6 women there - 4 foreign tourists and 2 locals. Tried to strike up a longer conversation with the local women but they were busy entertaining their guests most of the time. I left after 2 hours(didn't want to make it obvious that I was just there to chat up the women).

Not a good day all in all.


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The only other girls I saw alone looked even younger(late teens/early 20s), and I was very self-conscious about my age and didn't wanna risk creeping her out.

What are you risking? I look at decision making like this.. "Risk vs Reward'.. If the risk is worth the reward, I take the risk, if its not I don't.. So we all know the reward (New girl, Sex, possibly a good friend, more pick up experience, a wife, a girlfriend, FB, a girl that wants to invite you to a three some etc.etc.) now what are the risk?

When you say, " I didn't want to risk creeping her out" I don't even know what that means.. What happens if you creep her out? Is there some law that penalizes men for potentially creeping a girl out that i don't know about? hmm..

I wrote an article called " Take Control Of Your Emotions" Scroll through my site and you'll find it, its the 5 or 6 article down from the top. F.E.A.R = False Evidence Appearing Real - You're only afraid of what could happen, and what could happen is something you make up within your own mind. SO in all actuality, you're afraid of your own imagination. And that my friend is.. Insanity.

Get back out there bro.

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I wrote an article called " Take Control Of Your Emotions" Scroll through my site and you'll find it, its the 5 or 6 article down from the top. F.E.A.R = False Evidence Appearing Real - You're only afraid of what could happen, and what could happen is something you make up within your own mind. SO in all actuality, you're afraid of your own imagination. And that my friend is.. Insanity.
Just read it, and although my mind understand the logic behind it, my subconscious is still screaming 'NO!'.

I'll try to find settings in which I'm more comfortable in approaching women and try again. Malls and supermarkets just don't seem to work for me.


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I haven't been actively going out to approach girls but I've been doing online game with help from an experienced PUA. Nothing much to report on that front as I'm still making noob mistakes, but that's not why I'm posting.

Last Saturday I bumped into a girl I met through some friends sometime ago, and although we got along well, she had a b/f and I had a g/f at the time and we were both not looking for someone.

I found out she broke up with her b/f last Saturday, and I told her I also broke up with my g/f recently. And she started flirting with me. We spent much of Sunday chatting online as she had to work, but she invited me over to her place to hang this Morning(Monday) as her work starts in the last afternoon. Things got heated up and we had sex(yes in the morning).

The reason I'm posting all these details is not to do a lay report but because I ran into some issues. I took the 'no masturbation' advice and have not rub one out since I joined the forum on March 19th. Maybe this contributed to her being attracted to me, maybe not(but that's not what I wanna discuss). And I did get a really fast and intense hard-on unlike when I used to masturbate regularly, which is good. The issue however, was that I couldn't hold it in for as long as I used to be able to; I shot my load while she was blowing me, despite trying my best not to ejaculate. I even stopped her a few times when I was about to come but lost it the 4th time she resumed.

I did managed to make her come by going down on her, so at least I didn't blow future chances with her. But I'm very worried that if I continue abstaining from masturbation, I will continue to ejaculate prematurely.

Advice? Solutions?


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Hey Hank. Been following this thread and using it as motivation.
Well done and your approaches.

Quick question, did you call the girl from the park ?

@ Eddie - is it wise to call during this period of development or is it better to not get one step ahead?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:19 pm 
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Hey Hank. Been following this thread and using it as motivation.
Well done and your approaches.

Quick question, did you call the girl from the park ?
Glad I'm helping others as I find my way :)

No I never called her. Not sure if I'd know what to say anyway even if I did. Even my text game is still very boring(according to the PUA who's been tutoring me for online game) so I'm sure my conversation would be worse because it needs to be spontaneous and there'd be no room for any error.


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I haven't been actively going out to approach girls but I've been doing online game with help from an experienced PUA. Nothing much to report on that front as I'm still making noob mistakes, but that's not why I'm posting.

Last Saturday I bumped into a girl I met through some friends sometime ago, and although we got along well, she had a b/f and I had a g/f at the time and we were both not looking for someone.

I found out she broke up with her b/f last Saturday, and I told her I also broke up with my g/f recently. And she started flirting with me. We spent much of Sunday chatting online as she had to work, but she invited me over to her place to hang this Morning(Monday) as her work starts in the last afternoon. Things got heated up and we had sex(yes in the morning).

The reason I'm posting all these details is not to do a lay report but because I ran into some issues. I took the 'no masturbation' advice and have not rub one out since I joined the forum on March 19th. Maybe this contributed to her being attracted to me, maybe not(but that's not what I wanna discuss). And I did get a really fast and intense hard-on unlike when I used to masturbate regularly, which is good. The issue however, was that I couldn't hold it in for as long as I used to be able to; I shot my load while she was blowing me, despite trying my best not to ejaculate. I even stopped her a few times when I was about to come but lost it the 4th time she resumed.

I did managed to make her come by going down on her, so at least I didn't blow future chances with her. But I'm very worried that if I continue abstaining from masturbation, I will continue to ejaculate prematurely.

Advice? Solutions?
I don't know if its a coincidence or what, but every guy that wasn't completely horrible that i've instructed to give up masturbation for 3 months have all gotten laid within that time. Most in under 2 months. So salute to that. With a little discipline there always lies a reward. Masturbation is instant gratification.. Sacrifice that instant gratification and the universe will give you and actual gratification. So salute to you on your lay.

I will say though, that this thread for you was an approach thread. I'm not going to be giving too much online dating advice. I think you're better than that. Its "instant gratification" again and its an easy way out. So I'm not sure what kind of " PUA" is teaching you to online game; especially since yo haven't gotten your in life game to the level you want it to be.

The more "Seed" you're holding the more self control you will have to exhibit to keep it in, but the more overall power you will have aswell. I'd look up the " Jen Mo Point" - Theres an article called "The Golden Flower" - Just google "The Jen Mo point" and it'll be the first one there.

I'd also encourage reading up on some taoist sexual practices. There is such a thing as " Injaculation".. Which allows you to recycle the semen back into your blood which leaves you energized and not depleted.

I was able to regulate my emission of semen simply learning to "breathe" properly. Slow inhales, slow exhales, all while tuning into my body. The harder you try "not" to come, the harder it will be to stop it. Make your intention to PLEASE the woman. Forget about coming.. Try to PLEASE the woman in front of you. If you come you come.. But leave that off your mind. Breathe and focus on pleasing the woman in front of you.

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I'm back, and I'd like to say thank you to all who have mentored me since I joined this community.

I'm by no means anywhere near conquering my 'inner game', but what I've learned and the insight I've gained over the last couple months due to my exposure to the PUA community and the wealth of material I've accessed have certainly made me much more at ease with women. I still can not walk up to any woman and start a conversation, but at least I now can talk easier and more spontaneously with women who I encounter due to work, at social settings, and when I have a genuine need to engage them in conversation.

I've had to customise much of what I've learned to compensate for the differences in local culture and values, and it's been a steep learning curve, but I'm slowly getting the hang of it.

I thanks to the insight on 'kino', I now use it to have a deeper connection with women I talk to, even for business and non-sexual social interactions. And of course kina has allowed me to gauge interest very quickly instead of just guessing and wondering like I did in the pass.

And the realisation that you automatically appear more confident and thus more attractive when you're not desperate has allowed me to make a few women come to me instead of me chasing them. They're not the 8 to 10 I should be attracting, but it's a start.

That's it for now till I have something major to report(like snagging my first 8, 9 or 10).

Oh, and the 'no porn' advice is the best thing I've gained from this community. For those who are still not following this advice, maybe this video will change your mind.

https://youtu.be/gRJ_QfP2mhU


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