"too wordy" was correct..

Sounds like she's still feeling you out.. You in a rush? Some place you gotta be? The game is all patience man.. Knowing when to take steps back, and then when to take steps forward to get to where you want to be. You saw that success meme about what people think success looks like and what it actually looks like? Scoring a lay can be the same exact way when you don't get it the same night. You have to know how to play. You have to know when to relax and just not respond when you're feeling overly excited or the slightest bit anxious. And if you wait long enough, you'll know what to say when emotions settle. You'll get better at that overtime, but in the beginging stages you have to know not to text back just yet if you're have anxiety about what to say. You got the number.. The first milestone is out the way.. Now you just chill.. Rushing will set off alarms and result on you being ignored. Wait for the cue.. When you're patient you'll know what a cue is. Women throw us alley oops all the time to dunk the ball.

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Yeah i felt the 'let's grab a coffee' was kinda weak throw on the end, still might work out though. Not needy but I felt it needed more of a concise pressure, for e.g. 'Let's get a drink, when are you free?'

It seemed like...you know, when you're a kid in school and you tell the girl you like her and you just run away before she can reply.

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Heh, when you guys are right, you're right. Line went slack.

Not like I'll see her again so no need to get bent

Planning on approaching someone else tomorrow (i have to run to work after class on Wednesdays). I want to be more direct. I was able to slip that i thought she was cute and suddenly i at least got a reply back this time so this is encouraging.

I want to walk up to a girl and tell her i think she's pretty like in those dopey infield videos all over youtube. To be honest though, while i never get nervous starting conversation, ive always started conversation by pointing something out indirectly like having a question or needing an opinion. Which has never NOT yielded me the opportunity to talk and get to know her, but it's never scored me a date.

It felt different this time around. Like she kind of lit up when i said she was cute. Never seen that before unless i KNOW she's into me (all my past exes were very forward and it's cause me so much heartache when they turn out to be psychos, something about picking up rotting fruit off the ground instead of climbing the tree)

I know the obvious answer is just keep approaching but any advice to make this less anxiety inducing? This is a little more involved than the typical newbie challenge

Why do you say that? Sounds like you have some entitlement issues deep inside you.

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I wouldn't say that. I meant more along the lines if i blew it my chances of seeing her public and being like "oh fuck!" is pretty slim

http://www.reddit.com/r/nofap

Believe it or not, this works. I made it 25 days, had a sexual encounter, relapsed the next morning, I'm back at 7 days again. The effects are insane. You can literally turn that drive to masturbate into a drive for anything in life (including getting laid). And the reason you have trouble making it past day 5-7 is because your testosterone spikes exponentially (plus the fact it's a TERRIBLE addiction), thus increasing sex drive. Nofap is more of a long term change. Don't expect to not beat it for 3 days and become a seductive master. I'd read more into it if I were you.

I think every girl wants to see me, no matter what happens, and I act like it. Leave reality out of seduction.. It hurts more than it helps.

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Preach.

Anyone disagreeing simply hasn't tried it long enough to see the results or lacks skill with women period, so it doesn't matter what they do.

Its something that i've been putting into practice far before it became a movement.. After masturbating you just know something isn't right with what you just did. Something feels off; unless you're completely out of touch. Everyonnce in a while you get that good nut that in which you may not feel that way, but you're always quickly reminded by the next one. If we listen to our bodies we wouldn't even need to research such things.

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So do i just walk up to them and tell them i think they're attractive right off the bat? I've got a lot of time to kill tomorrow and the weather is supposed to be nicer so I'm allotting time to direct approaching tomorrow

I much prefer the direct approach.

Would it really killed you if you tried it? Just make sure you don't come off as creepy.

Well my school had a carnival today so i made it a mission to approach direct and failed miserabley.

First girl i talked to i had a class with once and she was definitely into me and my vibe. Kept following me around, kept giving me compliments, suggested i add her on FB. But just like always i couldn't just spit it out that i thought she looked good or that i was interested and that fizzled out.

Saw a photography major and chatted her up but again, i couldn't say it. She had beautiful blue eyes and i wanted to say something about them but fuck i couldnt and i ejected before it fizzled out.

To top it all off i ran into my ex. She's in a rebound relationship with some guy and has made it very known that she wanted to make me jealous and come crawling back. I wanted her back for awhile but I've been trying yo focus on dating other people instead. We croased paths and she smiled and said hi first which was something i wouldn't expect from her. I played cool, smiled and said hey back and i gave her a brief hug. She was with two friends and said she had to run to something and i said "yeah no problem, I'll see you around" and that was that.

I pretty much gave up after that. Definitely took the wind out of my sails.

I'm so nervous to start and lead a conversation without some round-a-bout "in".

Have you actually learned some game?

Like, we have all been through this ourselves, you need think how simple it is. You need to say to yourself:

'Okay, I am petrified of giving girls compliments, RIGHT, i need to just go out today and give a bunch of people compliments till I get comfortable with it'

Once you achieve that...

'Okay, I am not connecting with girls after the compliment. I need look up some stuff on youtube and learn how to transition then try it on a bunch of people'

AND SO ON AND SO ON till you get good at this. You can blast each sticking point one day at a time.

You're so passive. Chill out. Focus on the process. You need to start developing some sort of a structure to act as training wheels

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I started my morning giving compliments. I saw a girl in the parking lot with a blue mustang and i told her nice color choice and another girl that i liked her backpack.

Yeah I'm too passive. It really hurts

Edit: The girl with the Mustang i started talking to more. She was beautiful and a nursing major. When she told me she was a nursing major (i REALLY love intelligent women) I kind of froze up and went into interview mode. Though i did say something a long the lines of "I actually could tell, you seem to have a caring personality. Your car doesn't have a scratch on it!" but she started walking a little faster after i froze and i didn't get her number or anything.

I don't recommend this as a permanent thing since girls are people and deserve authenticity, but perhaps try to be more logical about shit until you get comfortable.

For example,

1) Compliment 10 girls and then eject, don't even ask for their number
2) Compliment 10 girls, then ask them how their day is going, then eject
3) Compliment 10 girls, then ask them how their day, then throw in something to tease her about, then eject
4) and so on and so on till you get to the stage where you're not leaving sets till you have qualified and gone for the number etc

Perhaps think of it as a computer game to make things less intensified. You wouldn't cry and throw your controller every time you die on Call of duty because it's just a game. you're not gonna see this girls again so have fun with it.

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Yeah I could try that I think. I used to think my problem was going into interview mode which is honestly something I have to think about NOT doing, but maybe i should break myself down even further and get to the root of the problem.

Maybe go to the mall since the school week is over

Edit: Running into my ex really didn't help though. I know she still stalks my social media as i get an accidental "like" every now and then. Even as recently as a week ago. She also talks about me to her/my friends (I'm distancing myself from mutual friends) but i never expected to run into her. I certainly didn't expect her to be the first to say hello. That just took me out of it